First_Backer_Inside Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 19 hours ago, Gipper said: Pretty weak and selfish of what LC did. Not only did they take their ball and run with it, they left other schools scrambling to find a replacement, and by the looks of it, a long ride must be endured. West Lafayette to Tippy Valley isn't exactly next door, nor is HH to South Bend. LC doesn't leave the conference if Valley doesn't choose to do so first. Everything Valley has had to do for a schedule is their own doing. As for the Hoosier conference, all the teams that had Cass on the schedule had to do was call up Valley and book them for the week they were supposed to play Cass. Instead they complained and pulled the "woah is me" card because they lost a lower tier team in the conference and didn't get right to scheduling Valley. West Lafayette to Cass and vice versa wasn't exactly next door. 1 Quote
gonzoron Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, First_Backer_Inside said: Instead they complained and pulled the "woah is me" card because they lost a lower tier team in the conference and didn't get right to scheduling Valley. Tippecanoe Valley isn't in the Hoosier Conference. No reason for Hamilton Heights to schedule them. Shifitng the blame for Lewis Cass leaving a conference in the lurch to a team who left a different conference is crazy talk. Quote
First_Backer_Inside Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, gonzoron said: Tippecanoe Valley isn't in the Hoosier Conference. No reason for Hamilton Heights to schedule them. Shifitng the blame for Lewis Cass leaving a conference in the lurch to a team who left a different conference is crazy talk. So what was the reasoning for scheduling South Bend Washington if they aren't in the conference either? Quote
gonzoron Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, First_Backer_Inside said: So what was the reasoning for scheduling South Bend Washington if they aren't in the conference either? I don't have a clue. Maybe Tippecanoe Valley didn't want to travel that far. 2 of the 3 games they scheduled with Hoosier Conference opponents are Home games. South Bend Washington was obviously willing to travel. 1 Quote
Gipper Posted May 31, 2023 Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/25/2023 at 7:20 PM, MarshallCounty said: Improvise, adapt, overcome. I said what I said, Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 and now Northwestern in their Hoosier Conf Swan Song this upcoming year 9 years and out the door for the Purple Tigers Quote
gonzoron Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: and now Northwestern in their Hoosier Conf Swan Song this upcoming year 9 years and out the door for the Purple Tigers If that's true, at least they gave adequate notice. I haven't seen any media about it. Quote
foxbat Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 Do we go nine again, or do we add another? If we add another, who: Is a good fit? Who is realistic? I would assume that bringing in another 3A/4A team helps in making things a bit more competitive for Western ... along with the recent addition of Logansport. Other than maybe Pioneer, I don't see anything in 1A to consider. Anything in 2A/3A, especially with the Sagamore Conference shakeup, make any sense? Tri-West perhaps? I'd see Lebanon as more of a "fit" maybe linking up with Harrison/McCutcheon if they form a new league, but Lebanon could be an interesting addition of strength on the upper-end of the HC compared to the departures. Might go a decent way to making sure that Western doesn't get cold feet. Quote
HoopsCoach Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, superjay said: Just take Frankfort. Frankfort just announced they are starting a new, yet to be named conference with WeBo, North Put, and the Montgomery County schools. I posted this on another forum: There would be some long drives, but arranging travel partners to limit the number of long trips in a season could help minimize the fuel costs. Hoosier Conference Danville 778 Hamilton Heights 710 Lebanon 1027 Logansport 1214 Tri-West 613 Twin Lakes 674 West Lafayette 730 Western 819 All of these schools are 3A or 4A in football, and when the change to the enrollment based classifications passes, all of these schools will be in 3A for basketball, volleyball, baseball, and softball. The Hoosier Heartland could then take the smaller members of the Hoosier and expand to 12 schools with 2 divisions like this: Heartland West Benton Central 508 Rensselaer Central 468 Delphi 405 Clinton Prairie 347 Carroll (Flora) 346 Lafayette Central Catholic 294 Heartland East Eastern (Greentown) 464 Tipton 439 Taylor 373 Sheridan 324 Clinton Central 268 Tri Central 236 Rossville goes to the Midwest Conference. Midwest North Newton 343 Rossville 273 North White 266 Faith Christian 245 South Newton 242 Tri-County 225 West Central 203 Frontier 198 DeMotte Christian 108 Quote
foxbat Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, HoopsCoach said: The Hoosier Heartland could then take the smaller members of the Hoosier and expand to 12 schools with 2 divisions like this: Heartland West Benton Central 508 Rensselaer Central 468 Delphi 405 Clinton Prairie 347 Carroll (Flora) 346 Lafayette Central Catholic 294 Didn't HHC basically oust LCC? If not officially, then they were certainly helpful and showed up for the packing party when LCC departed for the HC. Quote
Muda69 Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/2/2023 at 4:55 PM, HoopsCoach said: The Hoosier Heartland could then take the smaller members of the Hoosier and expand to 12 schools with 2 divisions like this: Heartland West Benton Central 508 Rensselaer Central 468 Delphi 405 Clinton Prairie 347 Carroll (Flora) 346 Lafayette Central Catholic 294 Heartland East Eastern (Greentown) 464 Tipton 439 Taylor 373 Sheridan 324 Clinton Central 268 Tri Central 236 Never. 96-0. Never forget. This travesty was the impetus for LCC getting the boot out of the HHC in the first place. And memories are long. 1 1 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/2/2023 at 7:22 AM, gonzoron said: If that's true, at least they gave adequate notice. I haven't seen any media about it. https://fultoncountypost.com/sports/692128#:~:text=It appears Northwestern (Howard Co,Mid-Indiana Conference in 2015. Of course I knew it was out there before I mentioned it my friend 😉 Quote
Ballhawk Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 On 6/2/2023 at 4:55 PM, HoopsCoach said: Frankfort just announced they are starting a new, yet to be named conference with WeBo, North Put, and the Montgomery County schools. I posted this on another forum: There would be some long drives, but arranging travel partners to limit the number of long trips in a season could help minimize the fuel costs. Hoosier Conference Danville 778 Hamilton Heights 710 Lebanon 1027 Logansport 1214 Tri-West 613 Twin Lakes 674 West Lafayette 730 Western 819 All of these schools are 3A or 4A in football, and when the change to the enrollment based classifications passes, all of these schools will be in 3A for basketball, volleyball, baseball, and softball. The Hoosier Heartland could then take the smaller members of the Hoosier and expand to 12 schools with 2 divisions like this: Heartland West Benton Central 508 Rensselaer Central 468 Delphi 405 Clinton Prairie 347 Carroll (Flora) 346 Lafayette Central Catholic 294 Heartland East Eastern (Greentown) 464 Tipton 439 Taylor 373 Sheridan 324 Clinton Central 268 Tri Central 236 Rossville goes to the Midwest Conference. Midwest North Newton 343 Rossville 273 North White 266 Faith Christian 245 South Newton 242 Tri-County 225 West Central 203 Frontier 198 DeMotte Christian 108 While this looks good on paper, I don't see the Hoosier Heartland accepting Rensselaer, Benton Central, Tipton or LCC. 1 Quote
HoopsCoach Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 16 hours ago, Ballhawk said: While this looks good on paper, I don't see the Hoosier Heartland accepting Rensselaer, Benton Central, Tipton or LCC. You’re right, none of what I suggested will ever happen. The eastern schools probably wouldn’t want Tipton. The western schools would most likely prefer not to drive to BC and Rensselaer. I don’t think any of the schools would be willing to bring in Central Catholic. Quote
Gipper Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 12:21 PM, HoopsCoach said: You’re right, none of what I suggested will ever happen. The eastern schools probably wouldn’t want Tipton. The western schools would most likely prefer not to drive to BC and Rensselaer. I don’t think any of the schools would be willing to bring in Central Catholic. I've never been a fan of the Bombers in the HC. Sure, the matchups with BC, Twin Lakes, West Lafayette (and to that end Central Catholic) make sense--but there are no natural rivalries with anybody else. I think the Northwest Crossroads would be a much better fit. Same time zone and a natural rivalry with Kankakee Valley who is out there on an island. Decent proximity to Lowell and Hanover Central as well... Quote
HoopsCoach Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 On 6/12/2023 at 9:36 AM, Gipper said: I've never been a fan of the Bombers in the HC. Sure, the matchups with BC, Twin Lakes, West Lafayette (and to that end Central Catholic) make sense--but there are no natural rivalries with anybody else. I think the Northwest Crossroads would be a much better fit. Same time zone and a natural rivalry with Kankakee Valley who is out there on an island. Decent proximity to Lowell and Hanover Central as well... It would make sense for KV and Rensselaer to be in the same conference. KV has outgrown Rensselaer by a lot but there isn’t a significant difference between them in the strength of their athletic programs. The Hoosier Conference will probably continue their patchwork and try to get Lebanon to replace Northwestern. The Tigers are not a bad fit and they are looking for a home, but I wonder if they want to bring Danville and Tri-West with them. I know this will be another example of things that are unlikely to happen, but the Hoosier Conference and the remaining members of the Sagamore could split into 2 conferences like this. KV would be a decent fit for the Hoosier in my opinion, so I’m including them as a 7th member. Hoosier Conference Logansport 1214 Kankakee Valley 1074 West Lafayette 730 Twin Lakes 674 Benton Central 508 Rensselaer Central 468 Lafayette Central Catholic 294 Sagamore Conference Lebanon 1027 Western 819 Danville 778 Hamilton Heights 710 Tri-West 613 Tipton 439 Quote
Gipper Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, HoopsCoach said: It would make sense for KV and Rensselaer to be in the same conference. KV has outgrown Rensselaer by a lot but there isn’t a significant difference between them in the strength of their athletic programs. The Hoosier Conference will probably continue their patchwork and try to get Lebanon to replace Northwestern. The Tigers are not a bad fit and they are looking for a home, but I wonder if they want to bring Danville and Tri-West with them. I know this will be another example of things that are unlikely to happen, but the Hoosier Conference and the remaining members of the Sagamore could split into 2 conferences like this. KV would be a decent fit for the Hoosier in my opinion, so I’m including them as a 7th member. Hoosier Conference Logansport 1214 Kankakee Valley 1074 West Lafayette 730 Twin Lakes 674 Benton Central 508 Rensselaer Central 468 Lafayette Central Catholic 294 Sagamore Conference Lebanon 1027 Western 819 Danville 778 Hamilton Heights 710 Tri-West 613 Tipton 439 That does seem to make a lot of sense, but I'm going to retreat to my "Time Zone" defense. RC and KV are Central, while all others are not. No big deal for football, but other sports that have weekday games, it's not as fun. I like the looks of your new Sagamore, and although they're the smallest by a mile, I see Tipton holding their own. BTW, Hanover Central just joined the NWCC, which could alleviate the need for the Kougars with a K. Edited June 13, 2023 by Gipper Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 I think that 468 maybe a bit generous as it stands today Quote
dcjjones Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 On 5/26/2023 at 4:18 PM, gonzoron said: I don't have a clue. Maybe Tippecanoe Valley didn't want to travel that far. 2 of the 3 games they scheduled with Hoosier Conference opponents are Home games. South Bend Washington was obviously willing to travel. Maybe he wants to talk shit about Cass for the next 12 months like HH never left the sagamore to join the MIC. I believe Stern won 2 games that year Quote
dcjjones Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, dcjjones said: Maybe he wants to talk shit about Cass for the next 12 months like HH never left the sagamore to join the MIC. I believe Stern won 2 games that year Also had inappropriate relations with a student manager. Tell me where class begins Quote
dcjjones Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 On 5/26/2023 at 1:45 PM, gonzoron said: Tippecanoe Valley isn't in the Hoosier Conference. No reason for Hamilton Heights to schedule them. Shifitng the blame for Lewis Cass leaving a conference in the lurch to a team who left a different conference is crazy talk. Hamilton County - Hamilton Heights High School football coach Steve Stirn resigned this week, and now he is being charged with furnishing alcohol to a minor. Police say Stirn bought an 18-year-old woman several beers at a recent Kenny Chesney concert at the Verizon Wireless Music Quote
dcjjones Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 50 minutes ago, dcjjones said: Hamilton County - Hamilton Heights High School football coach Steve Stirn resigned this week, and now he is being charged with furnishing alcohol to a minor. Police say Stirn bought an 18-year-old woman several beers at a recent Kenny Chesney concert at the Verizon Wireless Music @gonzoron Lets here about HH being the clean school 1 Quote
Ballhawk Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 5 hours ago, dcjjones said: Maybe he wants to talk shit about Cass for the next 12 months like HH never left the sagamore to join the MIC. I believe Stern won 2 games that year You seem to have some anger issues. Gonzo is just a smartass and you certainly took the bait. Hamilton Heights had been in the Rangeline, not the Sagamore. 1 1 Quote
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