Bears 2024

[Bash Riprock]

 

[Irishman]

In my Grover Dill voice "Who's next?" 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42679835/sources-bears-fire-eberflus-sixth-straight-loss 

[Muda69]

1 hour ago, Irishman said:

In my Grover Dill voice "Who's next?" 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42679835/sources-bears-fire-eberflus-sixth-straight-loss 

About time. 

Now, will young Mr. Brown make enough of an impression during the rest of this season as interim head coach to make him a bona fide contender once the season is over?   Based on the Bears remaining schedule it will be tough.

 

[Bobref]

1 hour ago, Irishman said:

In my Grover Dill voice "Who's next?" 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42679835/sources-bears-fire-eberflus-sixth-straight-loss 

And in great Bears’ tradition, they allowed him to have his usual day after the game morning press conference … then fired him.

I believe the Bears’ organization has reached what I like to call the “Costanza Point.” It’s the place where every decision you make turns out to be wrong. So, your only chance of success is to do the exact opposite of what you would normally do in that situation. George Costanza explains and demonstrates:

 

Edited November 29, 2024 by Bobref

[Irishman]

Here is my Cliff Clavin moment for the day. Last time the Bears had to replace a coach during the season was in 1942 when Papa Bear stepped down to enter the Navy in WWII and was ranked a Lt. Cmdr. 

[Bobref]

17 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

About time. 

Now, will young Mr. Brown make enough of an impression during the rest of this season as interim head coach to make him a bona fide contender once the season is over?   Based on the Bears remaining schedule it will be tough.

 

Vrabel

[Boilernation]

23 hours ago, Bobref said:

And in great Bears’ tradition, they allowed him to have his usual day after the game morning press conference … then fired him.

I believe the Bears’ organization has reached what I like to call the “Costanza Point.” It’s the place where every decision you make turns out to be wrong. So, your only chance of success is to do the exact opposite of what you would normally do in that situation. George Costanza explains and demonstrates:

 

Haha! My favorite scene from that epidose is when George interviews with Steinbrenner and unloads on him. I hope Poles had the some convo with McCaskey. I truly hope Poles has been handcuffed all along by Warren and/or McCaskey. I listened to Flus' 9AM presser yesterday and couldn't believe he was having to answer those questions regarding his future while McCaskey, Warren and Poles were in discussions to fire him. What a complete disgrace of an organization to let Flus go through with his normal 9 AM zoom when they knew they would be having a meeting to determine his future that same morning.

Edited November 30, 2024 by Boilernation

[Boilernation]

22 hours ago, Bobref said:

Vrabel

Part of me wants a solid offensive mind that can be linked with CW for his career, but then a part of me thinks the only answer is someone like Vrabel. We all know he'll come in and hold everyone accountable as well as create a culture similiar to the HC in Detroit. And Poles should be given the approval to hire someone like Vrabel or he should walk. Harbaugh was probably not a realistic option last year due to his feud with Warren. The rumors have long been the McCaskey's don't want another Ditka and would rather have a "yes man" as HC.

[Boilernation]

Supposedly Poles wanted to fire Flus after the New England game and couldn’t get approval. He should walk if he can’t hire HIS guy and doesn’t just have to placate to George and Kevin. 

[Coach Nowlin]

You don't walk out on the Bears if your GM bc of Ownership, you just keep trying to plug away and win spite George and hopefully Kevin staying away.   

Fingers crossed get this right, the roster is one that can win and win big if you hit better and develop OL/DL moving forward

[Bobref]

11 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

You don't walk out on the Bears if your GM bc of Ownership, you just keep trying to plug away and win spite George and hopefully Kevin staying away.   

Fingers crossed get this right, the roster is one that can win and win big if you hit better and develop OL/DL moving forward

I am intrigued by the reports that the McCaskeys will not consider an “alpha” personality for a coach, having gone that way with Ditka, and regretting it. If true, that would rule out someone like Vrabel or Belichik. Could that actually be true? I mean, look at the results they got with Ditka, and compare with the results they’ve gotten from the Jauron - Trestman - Nagy - Eberflus line of “beta” coaches.

[Boilernation]

13 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

You don't walk out on the Bears if your GM bc of Ownership, you just keep trying to plug away and win spite George and hopefully Kevin staying away.   

Fingers crossed get this right, the roster is one that can win and win big if you hit better and develop OL/DL moving forward

Why put a blemish on your resume for an owner who holds you accountable for results while tying one hand behind your back? The next hire has to be 100% Poles’ choice. It’s his job as GM. 

[Boilernation]

1 hour ago, Bobref said:

I am intrigued by the reports that the McCaskeys will not consider an “alpha” personality for a coach, having gone that way with Ditka, and regretting it. If true, that would rule out someone like Vrabel or Belichik. Could that actually be true? I mean, look at the results they got with Ditka, and compare with the results they’ve gotten from the Jauron - Trestman - Nagy - Eberflus line of “beta” coaches.

I doubt we could find it documented. Seems moreso hearsay from Chicago radio and former players who go on Chicago radio that the McCaskeys don’t want an alpha coach. 
 

[Coach Nowlin]

2 hours ago, Bobref said:

I am intrigued by the reports that the McCaskeys will not consider an “alpha” personality for a coach, having gone that way with Ditka, and regretting it. If true, that would rule out someone like Vrabel or Belichik. Could that actually be true? I mean, look at the results they got with Ditka, and compare with the results they’ve gotten from the Jauron - Trestman - Nagy - Eberflus line of “beta” coaches.

brutal 

1 hour ago, Boilernation said:

Why put a blemish on your resume for an owner who holds you accountable for results while tying one hand behind your back? The next hire has to be 100% Poles’ choice. It’s his job as GM. 

NFL Inner workings know.......Other Owners know.......

ALL GM's in the NFL have someone they report to, that must sign off on hires, GM's have to sell presidents/ceos/owners etc, so there is a level of cooperating needed 

[Boilernation]

43 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

brutal 

NFL Inner workings know.......Other Owners know.......

ALL GM's in the NFL have someone they report to, that must sign off on hires, GM's have to sell presidents/ceos/owners etc, so there is a level of cooperating needed 

Fair point. I looked up who hired Ditka and it was George Halas. I think it’s fair to say the McCaskeys have never hired an alpha male. It’s really a shame that Mugs Halas died in his ‘50’s in 1979. Perhaps the fortunes of the Bears would have been much different if Mugs carried the torch as opposed to the McCaskeys via Virginia. 

[PHJIrish]

I believe someone is just throwing excrement at the wall in this article.  Why would Marcus Freeman leave Notre Dame, a team on the rise, for a chance for a big check in the circus.

Marcus Freeman Named as Potential Chicago Bears Head Coaching Candidate

[Coach Nowlin]

1 minute ago, PHJIrish said:

I believe someone is just throwing excrement at the wall in this article.  Why would Marcus Freeman leave Notre Dame, a team on the rise, for a chance for a big check in the circus.

Marcus Freeman Named as Potential Chicago Bears Head Coaching Candidate

Because in the world of coaching Football, the NFL is the pinnacle of your chosen career choice of coaching Football.   For some coaches, that is a huge part of their goals to achieve.   Do you know what is Marcus Freeman's career goals?   To be the HC of ND I do not believe is the Pinnacle for him, perhaps, and you have your coach still another 32 years in South Bend, that will put Coach Freeman at age 70.  

The amount of things you do not have to do as an NFL HC that could be VERY appealing to someone like Marcus Freeman 

1.  Recruiting 

2. Recruiting 

3.  Recruiting and keeping your own roster 

4.  Booster rah rah rah events 

5.  Make sure "college" kids remain going to online and or in person classes to maintain eligibility (I know ND is not like everywhere else but still....). 

6.  Dealing with Diva Players who believe they are NFL players when in reality they are no where near NFL players with NIL money and how to diver it up

Your Role as NFL HEAD COACH is to Coach MEN all year long.  Yes there is the draft and FA evals and film and all that, but that is a group of people who are in those meetings to create the board.   Way different than traveling all over the nation trying to convince 18 year olds and their families to come to your university.

Just a few examples, guys like Saban didn't survive NFL because he couldn't give up the control he DEMANDED and got at Alabama 

 

[PHJIrish]

10 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Because in the world of coaching Football, the NFL is the pinnacle of your chosen career choice of coaching Football.   For some coaches, that is a huge part of their goals to achieve.   Do you know what is Marcus Freeman's career goals?   To be the HC of ND I do not believe is the Pinnacle for him, perhaps, and you have your coach still another 32 years in South Bend, that will put Coach Freeman at age 70.  

The amount of things you do not have to do as an NFL HC that could be VERY appealing to someone like Marcus Freeman 

1.  Recruiting 

2. Recruiting 

3.  Recruiting and keeping your own roster 

4.  Booster rah rah rah events 

5.  Make sure "college" kids remain going to online and or in person classes to maintain eligibility (I know ND is not like everywhere else but still....). 

6.  Dealing with Diva Players who believe they are NFL players when in reality they are no where near NFL players with NIL money and how to diver it up

Your Role as NFL HEAD COACH is to Coach MEN all year long.  Yes there is the draft and FA evals and film and all that, but that is a group of people who are in those meetings to create the board.   Way different than traveling all over the nation trying to convince 18 year olds and their families to come to your university.

Just a few examples, guys like Saban didn't survive NFL because he couldn't give up the control he DEMANDED and got at Alabama 

 

Coach Freeman is only finishing his third year of Head Coaching.  I think he knows he's not ready to consider a move "upward."  I think he's quite happy now at Notre Dame, and he's doing a fine job, chasing after 18 years olds, and coaching them up once their under his tutelage.  

[temptation]

Ryan Day…no brainer.

Apparently Chip Kelly (not kidding) has been entertaining NFL offers over the last few weeks according to an OSU insider.

[Coach Nowlin]

2 hours ago, PHJIrish said:

I believe someone is just throwing excrement at the wall in this article.  Why would Marcus Freeman leave Notre Dame, a team on the rise, for a chance for a big check in the circus.

Marcus Freeman Named as Potential Chicago Bears Head Coaching Candidate

You asked why, I gave scenario of reason of why

2 hours ago, PHJIrish said:

Coach Freeman is only finishing his third year of Head Coaching.  I think he knows he's not ready to consider a move "upward."  I think he's quite happy now at Notre Dame, and he's doing a fine job, chasing after 18 years olds, and coaching them up once their under his tutelage.  

I agree at this stage, he is not going to go, unless you know ND wins a National Title, which is possible, then perhaps the NFL rocket ship is fulled lit 

[temptation]

56 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

You asked why, I gave scenario of reason of why

I agree at this stage, he is not going to go, unless you know ND wins a National Title, which is possible, then perhaps the NFL rocket ship is fulled lit 

No, Northern Illinois, Stanfords  Marshalls in the NFL so he should be fine.

Edited December 1, 2024 by temptation

[Irishman]

I can see the ripple effect now; just like when the Packers fired Lindy Infante. They hired Forrest Gregg away from the Bengals. The Bengals then turn to then IU coach Sam Wyche. So the Bears fire Eberflus, and then hire Freeman, and then Notre Dame turns to Cignetti for their next hire. 

 

 

[Bash Riprock]

 

[Coach Nowlin]

8 hours ago, PHJIrish said:

I believe someone is just throwing excrement at the wall in this article.  Why would Marcus Freeman leave Notre Dame, a team on the rise, for a chance for a big check in the circus.

Marcus Freeman Named as Potential Chicago Bears Head Coaching Candidate

Doubt this is throw against the wall production here cbs pregame show 

 

[Bash Riprock]

Potential candidates from the NY Times

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5956030/2024/11/29/bears-head-coach-candidates-list/

SI's list

https://www.si.com/nfl/top-candidates-for-bears-head-coaching-job

Local Chicago NBC affiliate 

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/sports/nfl/chicago-bears/potential-bears-head-coaching-candidates-after-matt-eberflus-firing/3612383/

I would agree that names are being thrown out to see what sticks.  It is interesting to see in these list potential trends for certain names.....