oldtimeqb Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 No IHSAA events on Sunday… except for June 23, 2024 of course. https://www.charliehughesbasketball.com/ Rules for thee, not for basketball coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Tundra Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 7 hours ago, foxbat said: Officially, probably not, but a large number of p/p students are Catholic and we Catholics have vigil/Saturday Masses for weekend obligations. Here in Lafayette/West Lafayette you can catch Mass at 7:00 pm and 9:00 pm on Sundays, during the school year, at St. Tom's. I don't think it would be as much an issue for a single weekend; especially if there's a rotation of classes on Sunday. Maybe not as big a deal for the Catholics but Mormons and hardcores like my family wouldn’t give up a Sunday for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Frozen Tundra said: Maybe not as big a deal for the Catholics but Mormons and hardcores like my family wouldn’t give up a Sunday for anything. True, but we aren't overly worried about championship games on Fridays/Saturdays for our SDA and Jewish players/families? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Tundra Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, foxbat said: True, but we aren't overly worried about championship games on Fridays/Saturdays for our SDA and Jewish players/families? I think Christianity is just ingrained in our nation in how we do things. It’s never been considered before. Not saying that’s right or wrong, but even I take for granted sometimes that other religions have Saturday as their holy day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Fan Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 20 hours ago, qbcoach13 said: 8 Class System. Week 1 starts on current scrimmage week. Not all teams have to start week 1. Rolling bye weeks to cut down on number of official crews needed every week. Cuts down on enrollment gaps. 8A 1 Carmel 5200 2 Ben Davis 4567 3 Warren Central 3748 4 Fishers 3664 5 North Central (Indpls.) 3616 6 Penn 3480 7 Avon 3476 8 Hamilton Southeastern 3442 9 Franklin Central 3362 10 Brownsburg 3297 11 Noblesville 3208 12 Pike 3192 13 Elkhart 3166 14 Crown Point 2978 15 Lake Central 2961 16 Center Grove 2893 7A 1 Lawrence North 2817 2 Westfield 2789 3 Carroll (Fort Wayne) 2569 4 Indianapolis Arsenal Tech 2500 5 Homestead 2408 6 Lawrence Central 2404 7 Southport 2368 8 Perry Meridian 2359 9 Zionsville 2309 10 Columbus North 2267 11 Portage 2170 12 Harrison (West Lafayette) 2169 13 Fort Wayne Northrop 2158 14 Jeffersonville 2141 15 Fort Wayne Snider 1915 16 Indianapolis Cathedral 1172 6A 1 Valparaiso 2140 2 Warsaw 2108 3 Whiteland 2074 4 South Bend Adams 2062 5 Decatur Central 2050 6 Merrillville 2050 7 Lafayette Jefferson 2034 8 Goshen 2006 9 Chesterton 1980 10 Castle 1965 11 Hammond Central 1923 12 Floyd Central 1823 13 New Albany 1814 14 LaPorte 1812 15 McCutcheon 1786 16 Plainfield 1773 17 Evansville North 1751 18 Concord 1730 19 Anderson 1722 20 Seymour 1719 21 Bloomington South 1681 22 Terre Haute South 1609 23 Franklin Community 1590 24 Bloomington North 1589 25 Hammond Morton 1534 26 Michigan City 1520 27 Columbus East 1518 28 Munster 1514 29 Terre Haute North 1467 30 Kokomo 1465 31 Fort Wayne North Side 1460 32 East Central 1241 5A 1 Fort Wayne South Side 1459 2 Mt Vernon (Fortville) 1455 3 Greenfield-Central 1430 4 Mishawaka 1422 5 Fort Wayne Wayne 1416 6 Mooresville 1398 7 Northridge 1393 8 Huntington North 1382 9 Evansville Reitz 1378 10 Pendleton Heights 1353 11 Muncie Central 1332 12 Richmond 1320 13 Martinsville 1315 14 Hobart 1298 15 South Bend Riley 1298 16 Evansville Harrison 1293 17 Bedford-North Lawrence 1242 18 Logansport 1226 19 Greenwood 1211 20 New Palestine 1209 21 Indianapolis Crispus Attucks 1170 22 Jennings County 1169 23 Columbia City 1162 24 Indianapolis Shortridge 1159 25 Evansville Central 1131 26 Shelbyville 1093 27 Jasper 1092 28 Indianapolis Roncalli 1082 29 New Haven 1068 30 Plymouth 1054 31 Marion 1045 32 DeKalb 1044 4A 1 Lebanon 1033 2 East Chicago Central 1009 3 Gary West Side 995 4 East Noble 989 5 Kankakee Valley 989 6 Lowell 985 7 Highland 977 8 New Prairie 970 9 Silver Creek 943 10 Connersville 930 11 Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger 917 12 Frankfort 901 13 Leo 900 14 Wawasee 895 15 Northview 894 16 Beech Grove 892 17 South Bend Washington 886 18 Boonville 884 19 NorthWood 869 20 Evansville Bosse 863 21 Charlestown 854 22 South Bend Saint Joseph 849 23 Culver Academies 832 24 Brebeuf Jesuit 829 25 New Castle 824 26 Danville 820 27 Hanover Central 817 28 Yorktown 812 29 Washington 810 30 Guerin Catholic 800 31 Jay County 800 32 Indianapolis Bishop Chatard 730 3A 1 Delta 798 2 Western 791 3 Mississinewa 783 4 Gibson Southern 771 5 Edgewood 761 6 Madison 760 7 Corydon Central 754 8 West Lafayette 750 9 Norwell 745 10 Angola 741 11 Mishawaka Marian 735 12 Lawrenceburg 726 13 Scottsburg 726 14 West Noble 718 15 Vincennes Lincoln 711 16 Crawfordsville 710 17 Hamilton Heights 687 18 Batesville 670 19 Twin Lakes 663 20 Greensburg 662 21 Franklin County 650 22 Owen Valley 650 23 Rushville 645 24 South Dearborn 645 25 Griffith 637 26 Indian Creek 636 27 Heritage Hills 635 28 John Glenn 633 29 North Harrison 629 30 Fort Wayne Concordia 623 31 Evansville Memorial 617 32 Hammond Bishop Noll 617 33 Indianapolis Washington 617 34 Heritage 616 35 Calumet 611 36 Bellmont 610 37 Tri-West 606 38 Maconaquah 604 39 Princeton 600 40 Peru 588 41 Purdue Polytechnic 578 42 Southridge 576 43 Mount Vernon (Posey) 574 44 Speedway 571 45 Fairfield 570 46 River Forest 567 47 Garrett 556 48 Northwestern 554 49 Cascade 546 50 Tippecanoe Valley 543 51 Lakeland 540 52 Jimtown 538 53 Oak Hill 538 54 Fort Wayne Bishop Luers 532 55 Frankton 531 56 Evansville Mater Dei 520 57 Knox 520 58 West Vigo 518 59 Woodlan 518 60 Benton Central 513 61 North Montgomery 513 62 Western Boone 513 2A 1 Centerville 512 2 Bluffton 507 3 Heritage Christian 507 4 Monrovia 503 5 Sullivan 503 6 Eastbrook 501 7 Eastern (Greentown) 499 8 Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter 498 9 Greencastle 495 10 Salem 494 11 Wabash 492 12 Blackford 490 13 Brown County 488 14 Manchester 475 15 Pike Central 474 16 Rochester 473 17 Bremen 471 18 Brownstown Central 469 19 Alexandria 468 20 South Vermillion 468 21 Triton Central 468 22 Boone Grove 466 23 Lapel 466 24 Switzerland County 464 25 Andrean 455 26 Tipton 454 27 Southmont 453 28 Indianapolis Scecina 448 29 Rensselaer Central 447 30 North Posey 442 31 North Putnam 432 32 Mitchell 430 33 Northeastern 423 34 Whiting 422 35 Prairie Heights 421 36 Park Tudor 421 37 Christel House Manual 420 38 Delphi 417 39 Wheeler 417 40 Elwood 410 41 Winchester 408 42 Adams Central 408 43 Tell City 403 44 Shenandoah 400 45 Paoli 396 46 Lake Station Edison 391 47 Union County 391 48 Eastern (Pekin) 389 49 Lewis Cass 389 50 Whitko 389 51 Linton-Stockton 387 52 Seeger 386 53 Central Noble 385 54 Clarksville 385 55 Eastside 384 56 Covenant Christian (Indpls.) 383 57 Crawford County 379 58 Churubusco 378 59 Eastern Hancock 377 60 Perry Central 377 61 Lafayette Central Catholic 302 62 Indianapolis Lutheran 267 1a 1 LaVille 373 2 Providence 371 3 Taylor 366 4 South Putnam 363 5 Winamac 360 6 South Adams 357 7 Parke Heritage 354 8 Forest Park 353 9 Hagerstown 352 10 South Spencer 352 11 Eastern Greene 351 12 North Knox 349 13 Madison-Grant 336 14 Sheridan 336 15 Clinton Prairie 327 16 Carroll (Flora) 321 17 Riverton Parke 320 18 North Newton 319 19 South Central (Union Mills) 318 20 Knightstown 316 21 Milan 315 22 North Decatur 314 23 North Judson 308 24 Monroe Central 301 25 Northfield 296 26 Fountain Central 289 27 Anderson Prep Academy 288 28 Pioneer 286 29 Tecumseh 286 30 Cloverdale 283 31 Fremont 283 32 Covington 281 33 Bowman Academy 277 34 West Washington 277 35 Triton 274 36 North Daviess 273 37 Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian 270 38 Clinton Central 268 39 Springs Valley 266 40 South Decatur 265 41 North White 264 42 North Miami 263 43 Southwood 263 44 North Central (Farmersburg) 257 45 Tri 256 46 Southern Wells 252 47 Wes-Del 248 48 Culver 246 49 Union City 244 50 Caston 241 51 South Newton 241 52 Cambridge City Lincoln 234 53 Tri Central 232 54 Edinburgh 227 55 Greenwood Christian 222 56 Tri-County 220 57 North Vermillion 218 58 West Central 209 59 Indianapolis Tindley 202 60 Frontier 180 61 Attica 160 Boy I hope this never happens. What a joke that would be. 2 classes of 16 teams? Cmon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punttheball Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 46 minutes ago, Indiana Fan said: Boy I hope this never happens. What a joke that would be. 2 classes of 16 teams? Cmon Honestly, 32 teams in all classes is a great number. The problem is when and where you play 10 State Championship games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Punttheball said: Honestly, 32 teams in all classes is a great number. The problem is when and where you play 10 State Championship games. As we edge ever closer to participation trophies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punttheball Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, Bobref said: As we edge ever closer to participation trophies. Nah, that's not my point. I would be ok if we went to 32 teams in a class and stayed with 6 classes. I think it would be better to put a 10th game into play and give the revenue to the schools instead of the IHSAA. But you can twist it anyway you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegionFBFan Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 In my opinion, this is all extremely unrealistic. The IHSAA will never move away from all schools qualifying for the tournament. This is what makes Indiana high school sports unique and they like being unique. I think the more realistic outcome is 6 classes with 32 in 6A and 32 in 1A and close to 62-64 teams in 5A to 2A. I also believe there is a strong possibility of seeding occurring in tournament and possibly neutral site semi state games. Other than these changes, the rest is a pipe dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDB26 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 28 minutes ago, RegionFBFan said: This is what makes Indiana high school sports unique and they like being unique. Stares in single-class basketball tournament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegionFBFan Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, PDB26 said: Stares in single-class basketball tournament. True but totally different here. With single class basketball change, all teams were still able to participate in tournament. With this proposal of qualifying for tournament, you are telling a portion of your contributing member schools that they can not participate in tourney. Simply not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/15/2024 at 7:48 AM, btownqbcoach1 said: I don't think we accomplish anything by not allowing certain teams in. Sure you do, you give actual meaning to the regular season. Why should every team be entitled to play a sectional game? I've never heard of another postseason format that entitles an 0-9 team who loses every game by 50 points the opportunity to play for a state championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/15/2024 at 10:47 AM, qbcoach13 said: 8 Class System. Week 1 starts on current scrimmage week. Not all teams have to start week 1. Rolling bye weeks to cut down on number of official crews needed every week. Cuts down on enrollment gaps. 8A 1 Carmel 5200 2 Ben Davis 4567 3 Warren Central 3748 4 Fishers 3664 5 North Central (Indpls.) 3616 6 Penn 3480 7 Avon 3476 8 Hamilton Southeastern 3442 9 Franklin Central 3362 10 Brownsburg 3297 11 Noblesville 3208 12 Pike 3192 13 Elkhart 3166 14 Crown Point 2978 15 Lake Central 2961 16 Center Grove 2893 7A 1 Lawrence North 2817 2 Westfield 2789 3 Carroll (Fort Wayne) 2569 4 Indianapolis Arsenal Tech 2500 5 Homestead 2408 6 Lawrence Central 2404 7 Southport 2368 8 Perry Meridian 2359 9 Zionsville 2309 10 Columbus North 2267 11 Portage 2170 12 Harrison (West Lafayette) 2169 13 Fort Wayne Northrop 2158 14 Jeffersonville 2141 15 Fort Wayne Snider 1915 16 Indianapolis Cathedral 1172 6A 1 Valparaiso 2140 2 Warsaw 2108 3 Whiteland 2074 4 South Bend Adams 2062 5 Decatur Central 2050 6 Merrillville 2050 7 Lafayette Jefferson 2034 8 Goshen 2006 9 Chesterton 1980 10 Castle 1965 11 Hammond Central 1923 12 Floyd Central 1823 13 New Albany 1814 14 LaPorte 1812 15 McCutcheon 1786 16 Plainfield 1773 17 Evansville North 1751 18 Concord 1730 19 Anderson 1722 20 Seymour 1719 21 Bloomington South 1681 22 Terre Haute South 1609 23 Franklin Community 1590 24 Bloomington North 1589 25 Hammond Morton 1534 26 Michigan City 1520 27 Columbus East 1518 28 Munster 1514 29 Terre Haute North 1467 30 Kokomo 1465 31 Fort Wayne North Side 1460 32 East Central 1241 5A 1 Fort Wayne South Side 1459 2 Mt Vernon (Fortville) 1455 3 Greenfield-Central 1430 4 Mishawaka 1422 5 Fort Wayne Wayne 1416 6 Mooresville 1398 7 Northridge 1393 8 Huntington North 1382 9 Evansville Reitz 1378 10 Pendleton Heights 1353 11 Muncie Central 1332 12 Richmond 1320 13 Martinsville 1315 14 Hobart 1298 15 South Bend Riley 1298 16 Evansville Harrison 1293 17 Bedford-North Lawrence 1242 18 Logansport 1226 19 Greenwood 1211 20 New Palestine 1209 21 Indianapolis Crispus Attucks 1170 22 Jennings County 1169 23 Columbia City 1162 24 Indianapolis Shortridge 1159 25 Evansville Central 1131 26 Shelbyville 1093 27 Jasper 1092 28 Indianapolis Roncalli 1082 29 New Haven 1068 30 Plymouth 1054 31 Marion 1045 32 DeKalb 1044 4A 1 Lebanon 1033 2 East Chicago Central 1009 3 Gary West Side 995 4 East Noble 989 5 Kankakee Valley 989 6 Lowell 985 7 Highland 977 8 New Prairie 970 9 Silver Creek 943 10 Connersville 930 11 Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger 917 12 Frankfort 901 13 Leo 900 14 Wawasee 895 15 Northview 894 16 Beech Grove 892 17 South Bend Washington 886 18 Boonville 884 19 NorthWood 869 20 Evansville Bosse 863 21 Charlestown 854 22 South Bend Saint Joseph 849 23 Culver Academies 832 24 Brebeuf Jesuit 829 25 New Castle 824 26 Danville 820 27 Hanover Central 817 28 Yorktown 812 29 Washington 810 30 Guerin Catholic 800 31 Jay County 800 32 Indianapolis Bishop Chatard 730 3A 1 Delta 798 2 Western 791 3 Mississinewa 783 4 Gibson Southern 771 5 Edgewood 761 6 Madison 760 7 Corydon Central 754 8 West Lafayette 750 9 Norwell 745 10 Angola 741 11 Mishawaka Marian 735 12 Lawrenceburg 726 13 Scottsburg 726 14 West Noble 718 15 Vincennes Lincoln 711 16 Crawfordsville 710 17 Hamilton Heights 687 18 Batesville 670 19 Twin Lakes 663 20 Greensburg 662 21 Franklin County 650 22 Owen Valley 650 23 Rushville 645 24 South Dearborn 645 25 Griffith 637 26 Indian Creek 636 27 Heritage Hills 635 28 John Glenn 633 29 North Harrison 629 30 Fort Wayne Concordia 623 31 Evansville Memorial 617 32 Hammond Bishop Noll 617 33 Indianapolis Washington 617 34 Heritage 616 35 Calumet 611 36 Bellmont 610 37 Tri-West 606 38 Maconaquah 604 39 Princeton 600 40 Peru 588 41 Purdue Polytechnic 578 42 Southridge 576 43 Mount Vernon (Posey) 574 44 Speedway 571 45 Fairfield 570 46 River Forest 567 47 Garrett 556 48 Northwestern 554 49 Cascade 546 50 Tippecanoe Valley 543 51 Lakeland 540 52 Jimtown 538 53 Oak Hill 538 54 Fort Wayne Bishop Luers 532 55 Frankton 531 56 Evansville Mater Dei 520 57 Knox 520 58 West Vigo 518 59 Woodlan 518 60 Benton Central 513 61 North Montgomery 513 62 Western Boone 513 2A 1 Centerville 512 2 Bluffton 507 3 Heritage Christian 507 4 Monrovia 503 5 Sullivan 503 6 Eastbrook 501 7 Eastern (Greentown) 499 8 Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter 498 9 Greencastle 495 10 Salem 494 11 Wabash 492 12 Blackford 490 13 Brown County 488 14 Manchester 475 15 Pike Central 474 16 Rochester 473 17 Bremen 471 18 Brownstown Central 469 19 Alexandria 468 20 South Vermillion 468 21 Triton Central 468 22 Boone Grove 466 23 Lapel 466 24 Switzerland County 464 25 Andrean 455 26 Tipton 454 27 Southmont 453 28 Indianapolis Scecina 448 29 Rensselaer Central 447 30 North Posey 442 31 North Putnam 432 32 Mitchell 430 33 Northeastern 423 34 Whiting 422 35 Prairie Heights 421 36 Park Tudor 421 37 Christel House Manual 420 38 Delphi 417 39 Wheeler 417 40 Elwood 410 41 Winchester 408 42 Adams Central 408 43 Tell City 403 44 Shenandoah 400 45 Paoli 396 46 Lake Station Edison 391 47 Union County 391 48 Eastern (Pekin) 389 49 Lewis Cass 389 50 Whitko 389 51 Linton-Stockton 387 52 Seeger 386 53 Central Noble 385 54 Clarksville 385 55 Eastside 384 56 Covenant Christian (Indpls.) 383 57 Crawford County 379 58 Churubusco 378 59 Eastern Hancock 377 60 Perry Central 377 61 Lafayette Central Catholic 302 62 Indianapolis Lutheran 267 1a 1 LaVille 373 2 Providence 371 3 Taylor 366 4 South Putnam 363 5 Winamac 360 6 South Adams 357 7 Parke Heritage 354 8 Forest Park 353 9 Hagerstown 352 10 South Spencer 352 11 Eastern Greene 351 12 North Knox 349 13 Madison-Grant 336 14 Sheridan 336 15 Clinton Prairie 327 16 Carroll (Flora) 321 17 Riverton Parke 320 18 North Newton 319 19 South Central (Union Mills) 318 20 Knightstown 316 21 Milan 315 22 North Decatur 314 23 North Judson 308 24 Monroe Central 301 25 Northfield 296 26 Fountain Central 289 27 Anderson Prep Academy 288 28 Pioneer 286 29 Tecumseh 286 30 Cloverdale 283 31 Fremont 283 32 Covington 281 33 Bowman Academy 277 34 West Washington 277 35 Triton 274 36 North Daviess 273 37 Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian 270 38 Clinton Central 268 39 Springs Valley 266 40 South Decatur 265 41 North White 264 42 North Miami 263 43 Southwood 263 44 North Central (Farmersburg) 257 45 Tri 256 46 Southern Wells 252 47 Wes-Del 248 48 Culver 246 49 Union City 244 50 Caston 241 51 South Newton 241 52 Cambridge City Lincoln 234 53 Tri Central 232 54 Edinburgh 227 55 Greenwood Christian 222 56 Tri-County 220 57 North Vermillion 218 58 West Central 209 59 Indianapolis Tindley 202 60 Frontier 180 61 Attica 160 I'd argue there's too many classes to begin with. Make the top 32 enrollment schools 5A and the bottom 32 enrollment schools 1A and then divide the remaining schools into 3 classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 5 hours ago, Punttheball said: Nah, that's not my point. I would be ok if we went to 32 teams in a class and stayed with 6 classes. I think it would be better to put a 10th game into play and give the revenue to the schools instead of the IHSAA. But you can twist it anyway you want. Are 100 something schools just going to drop football then? How can you go to six 32 team classes given the number of participating schools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 hours ago, RegionFBFan said: This is what makes Indiana high school sports unique and they like being unique. “Unique” means one of a kind. It says nothing about good or bad, wise or stupid. There is a reason this format is unique … and it’s not because no one else has thought of it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I support qualification now....but you should only need to win a couple of games to get in. That slims down the field just enough to slot teams in more like for like "classes". Not because it makes the regular season more meaningful, because it doesn't and it won't. See @oldtimeqb's post earlier in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarab527 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Seeding is the first step in the removal of the all-in. A couple years of complete first round blowouts where one team has to travel 1 hour+ will have people ready for a qualifier. The all-in only makes sense with the random draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegionFBFan Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, scarab527 said: Seeding is the first step in the removal of the all-in. A couple years of complete first round blowouts where one team has to travel 1 hour+ will have people ready for a qualifier. The all-in only makes sense with the random draw. Agree. A phased approach with actual results then make the next step. And the IHSAA is surveying coaches and administrators on seeding as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psaboy Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/15/2024 at 8:32 AM, JQWL said: I don't think that's true. I haven't spoken to a coach that feels the official scrimmage is as important as it used to be with the current summer guidelines. Why can't they start practice one week earlier and then you can keep scrimmage game and add a regular season game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, scarab527 said: Seeding is the first step in the removal of the all-in. A couple years of complete first round blowouts where one team has to travel 1 hour+ will have people ready for a qualifier. The all-in only makes sense with the random draw. Agreed. Been saying this for years. It’s the only reason why seeding hasn’t been implemented. And that’s to delay the inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) The all-in only works under the mirage of the blind draw. Take away the blind draw and the need to allow every team into the postseason after being sold on some fairy tale dream of a new season disappears. Edited February 17 by Footballking16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDB26 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 6 hours ago, RegionFBFan said: True but totally different here. With single class basketball change, all teams were still able to participate in tournament. With this proposal of qualifying for tournament, you are telling a portion of your contributing member schools that they can not participate in tourney. Simply not going to happen. I agree with your conclusion, but it's not about uniqueness of the all-in format. As you note, there is no incentive to institute a qualifier because of membership interests. Just as membership interests resulted in the demise of the single-class tournament. In the end, everyone wants to feel like they have a chance to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 10 hours ago, PDB26 said: everyone wants to feel like they have a chance to win. I think you mean “everyone wants to feel like they have a chance to win, even though they didn’t earn that chance during the regular season when they had the opportunity.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 22 hours ago, Punttheball said: Nah, that's not my point. I would be ok if we went to 32 teams in a class and stayed with 6 classes. I think it would be better to put a 10th game into play and give the revenue to the schools instead of the IHSAA. But you can twist it anyway you want. Are you aware that tournament revenue that goes “to the IHSAA” is distributed to the schools after IHSAA operating expenses are deducted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDB26 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 15 minutes ago, Bobref said: I think you mean “everyone wants to feel like they have a chance to win, even though they didn’t earn that chance during the regular season when they had the opportunity.” Yes. I think the full statement should be, “everyone wants to feel like they have a chance to win, even though they didn’t earn that chance during the regular season when they had the opportunity, despite substantial evidence that they have no chance to win––especially in football." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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