3A State Championship: Fort Wayne Bishop Luers (10-4) vs Heritage Hills (13-1)

[SuhMe]

4 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Just wow…

Look everyone, the Fort Wayne Homer is here talking about how Fort Wayne schools are better than everyone else. Who woulda thunk it.  
 

Heritage Hills may as well not show up. Luers, being they are in Fort Wayne, win by default. 
 

As if Heritage Hills hasn’t taken care of several top 10 3a schools including the favorite to win 3a (Evansville Memorial) already by double digits. 
 

Luers won’t be able to dig themselves out of a hole this week when they get behind. 
 

#SouthernIndianaFootball 💪🏼 
 

[HeritageHillsFan]

23 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

Not a Luers fan, but HH is in for a fight with the Knights. Lots of state titles and every year people look at their record and underestimate them. Just don’t get it. Luers plays a heavy 5A and 6A schedule, pretty sure they don’t play any team below 3A all year. I have seen them finish 3-6 and 4-5 during the regular season and steamroll thru the playoffs. Whatever HH has, Luers has seen it from much better teams  than HH with more speed. Hope HH underestimates Luers as that will guarantee a red ribbon for HH

That's cute and all, you're talking about a team who's been the a top 2 team in 3A for 700 days. Sorry, a true 2A team isn't getting it done.

[HeritageHillsFan]

18 hours ago, NEI_Homer said:

My point exactly. These Southern Indiana fans don't quite grasp the level of talent and athleticism that goes on in Northeast Indiana, the SAC in particular. A slight win or loss to a number of teams in the SAC stacks up much better than big wins vs. county schools south of Bloomington. Just a fact. These HH fans will soon understand what I am talking about. 

How much NFL blood is on Luers? 🤣🤣. Goldsberry may be the best player you've seen this season. 

[SuhMe]

Jett Goldsberry (Sophmore season half a year ago)

100m 10.88 

200m 21.78

400m 48.65

 

Luers School Records: (according to athletic.net)

100m 11.14 Chris Ferrell 2015

200m 22.82 Justin Gaston 2018

400m 49.91 Austin Carteaux 2009

 

Jett Goldsberry 2024 

Passing 1736 yards 26 TDS 4 ints 

Rushing 1499 yards 6tds 

3235 yards 32 TDs

 

FW Luers team

Passing 1333 9TDs 7 ints 

Rushing 2390 33 TDs

3723 yards 40 TDs

 

1 player alone almost equates an entire teams offense. He is faster than anyone you have on your roster. You shut him down and it will be a decent game. Otherwise, I hold strong that it won’t be close, because the truth is, he isn’t the only great player on that team. 

Edited November 24, 2024 by SuhMe

[BTF]

1 hour ago, HeritageHillsFan said:

That's cute and all, you're talking about a team who's been the a top 2 team in 3A for 700 days. Sorry, a true 2A team isn't getting it done.

You know someone is triggered when they respond to someone else saying "that's cute." 

[LuersMom5]

3 hours ago, SuhMe said:

Jett Goldsberry (Sophmore season half a year ago)

100m 10.88 

200m 21.78

400m 48.65

 

Luers School Records: (according to athletic.net)

100m 11.14 Chris Ferrell 2015

200m 22.82 Justin Gaston 2018

400m 49.91 Austin Carteaux 2009

 

Jett Goldsberry 2024 

Passing 1736 yards 26 TDS 4 ints 

Rushing 1499 yards 6tds 

3235 yards 32 TDs

 

FW Luers team

Passing 1333 9TDs 7 ints 

Rushing 2390 33 TDs

3723 yards 40 TDs

 

1 player alone almost equates an entire teams offense. He is faster than anyone you have on your roster. You shut him down and it will be a decent game. Otherwise, I hold strong that it won’t be close, because the truth is, he isn’t the only great player on that team. 

But to be fair... Luers got those stats playing against multiple 4A,5A, and 6A teams.   I'm not sure who HH played to earn those stats, but I am guessing that it wasn't comparable.   I am not saying Luers will win, but I am saying that those stats are not necessarily a reliable metric for forecasting the outcome of a HH v. BLHS matchup. 

Edited November 24, 2024 by LuersMom5

[HHPatriots]

This is how those city folks "north of Bloomington" see Jett and company warming up.  He might be slow, but he can sure rip on that banjo.

[Komets2727]

2 minutes ago, LuersMom5 said:

But to be fair... Luers got those stats playing against multiple 4A,5A, and 6A teams.   I'm not sure who HH played to earn those stats, but I am guessing that it wasn't comparable.   I am not saying Luers will win, but I am saying that those stats are not necessarily a reliable metric for forecasting the outcome of a HH v. BLHS matchup. 

Please don’t try and reason with these people. HH wouldn’t dream of playing a 5A and 6A dominated schedule like Luers. They haven’t even begun to sniff 12 state titles. They certainly haven’t condescended to say a 2A school won’t win 3A. They haven’t beaten 3 straight undefeated teams to get to state like Luers. And they damn sure aren’t the best team Luers has played this year

[StinkTownClown]

Luers, Luers, Luers 1.2..3....

Lincoln City’s here to shatter your dreams,
5A, 6A? This week, it means nothin’, it seems.

Wilk and Goldsberry bringing that 3A heat,
Dirty South ball, punching Luers on repeat!

And Stink? Oh, he’s hated Luers since ’85,
When they stomped on my Tigers, barely alive.

So if Luers rolls in, dressed all in black,
Stink’s cracking a grin—and a 30 rack!

[HHPatriots]

3 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Please don’t try and reason with these people. HH wouldn’t dream of playing a 5A and 6A dominated schedule like Luers. They haven’t even begun to sniff 12 state titles. They certainly haven’t condescended to say a 2A school won’t win 3A. They haven’t beaten 3 straight undefeated teams to get to state like Luers. And they damn sure aren’t the best team Luers has played this year

Calm down dude, we get it.  We have spent years playing great seasons only to go and get beat by Chatard.  They are now in the class they belong in and now for a couple years Luers is in the class they belong in.  We don't make excuses, until the IHSAA changes the rules (unlikely) we just have to get bigger, faster and stronger. I for one don't believe that we will win by a million, may not win at all.  We all know that Luers is used to this, year after year....  We have a good team and maybe our team of slackjawed, knuckledragging rednecks can shock the world (north of Bloomington) and compete.

[HeritageHillsFan]

2 hours ago, BTF said:

You know someone is triggered when they respond to someone else saying "that's cute." 

No he's talking about a team that was at best 3rd best in the conference last year that his team beat in state. We've been throttling North Posey for as long as they've played. So it was cute. 

 

Pats by 20.

[Tippy]

1 hour ago, HHPatriots said:

This is how those city folks "north of Bloomington" see Jett and company warming up.  He might be slow, but he can sure rip on that banjo.

Can he play the theme song from the "Dukes of Hazzard"? 🙂  Dukes of Hazzard was so popular in the late 1970's and early 80's, and was on TV Friday night.  In the southern states people were not going to high school football games because they wanted to watch the Dukes of Hazzard, so they moved the games to Saturday.

[HHPatriots]

4 hours ago, SuhMe said:

Jett Goldsberry (Sophmore season half a year ago)

100m 10.88 

200m 21.78

400m 48.65

 

Luers School Records: (according to athletic.net)

100m 11.14 Chris Ferrell 2015

200m 22.82 Justin Gaston 2018

400m 49.91 Austin Carteaux 2009

 

Jett Goldsberry 2024 

Passing 1736 yards 26 TDS 4 ints 

Rushing 1499 yards 6tds 

3235 yards 32 TDs

 

FW Luers team

Passing 1333 9TDs 7 ints 

Rushing 2390 33 TDs

3723 yards 40 TDs

 

1 player alone almost equates an entire teams offense. He is faster than anyone you have on your roster. You shut him down and it will be a decent game. Otherwise, I hold strong that it won’t be close, because the truth is, he isn’t the only great player on that team. 

I appreciate the stats, but you are a little off, especially on the TDs.... oh, and we play iron man football down here in the woods.  Our QB is one of the hardest hitting kids on the team.

[LuersMom5]

1 hour ago, HHPatriots said:

This is how those city folks "north of Bloomington" see Jett and company warming up.  He might be slow, but he can sure rip on that banjo.

Surely no one is casting aspersions on, nor even doubting the tenor of your urbanity.  But, even so, the issue remains HH has likely not faced the type of competitive schedule that Luers played in the SAC.  

[LuersMom5]

4 minutes ago, HHPatriots said:

I appreciate the stats, but you are a little off, especially on the TDs.... oh, and we play iron man football down here in the woods.  Our QB is one of the hardest hitting kids on the team.

People keep mentioning this kid, and only this kid.   So... is there only one good player at HH, or what?  

Luers defense is fairly formidable.  It will be helpful for HH that the QB is a hard-hitter, because there will be a need for some of that.  

 

[SuhMe]

11 minutes ago, HHPatriots said:

I appreciate the stats, but you are a little off, especially on the TDs.... oh, and we play iron man football down here in the woods.  Our QB is one of the hardest hitting kids on the team.

Just going off MaxPreps.

As for Jett and defense, I agree. Laid the hammer on that screen play! 

 

[HHPatriots]

5 minutes ago, LuersMom5 said:

People keep mentioning this kid, and only this kid.   So... is there only one good player at HH, or what?  

Luers defense is fairly formidable.  It will be helpful for HH that the QB is a hard-hitter, because there will be a need for some of that.  

 

LOL, yeah, we got another guy or two.  Team is stacked.  

Just now, SuhMe said:

Just going off MaxPreps.

As for Jett and defense, I agree. Laid the hammer on that screen play! 

 

Yeah, that kid will remember that hit when he is 50.

[LuersLurker]

23 hours ago, NEI_Homer said:

Leo, North Side, and Homestead handle HH pretty easily from what I've seen on rewatch of HH. The South Side and Dwenger games were blunders, and Luers personnel on the field were going through some severe family issues, where anybody on here would backtrack their criticism if they knew or understood what was going on.  

 

23 hours ago, NEI_Homer said:

My point exactly. These Southern Indiana fans don't quite grasp the level of talent and athleticism that goes on in Northeast Indiana, the SAC in particular. A slight win or loss to a number of teams in the SAC stacks up much better than big wins vs. county schools south of Bloomington. Just a fact. These HH fans will soon understand what I am talking about. 

I remember this type of talk back in 2000, when people were saying that Luers was the best in any class, people in the south don't understand the level of talent up north, etc.  Along comes a team from Evansville and took Luers to the woodshed 56-10.  They brought the Mother of God and all Luers brought was a dead bishop.   Respect what a team can do to you or the WILL do it to you.  Four quarters of the best Luers football.  Luers needs to stay focused.

[BTF]

25 minutes ago, LuersLurker said:

 

I remember this type of talk back in 2000, when people were saying that Luers was the best in any class, people in the south don't understand the level of talent up north, etc.  Along comes a team from Evansville and took Luers to the woodshed 56-10.  They brought the Mother of God and all Luers brought was a dead bishop.   Respect what a team can do to you or the WILL do it to you.  Four quarters of the best Luers football.  Luers needs to stay focused.

You just never know. Luers was "easily" the best team in 2A in 2021. Hell, I had them penciled in for 3A and a state title contender in 4A. Along comes Eastside. Take nothing for granted. I could see this one going in either directions. Good luck to both. 

[LuersMom5]

37 minutes ago, HHPatriots said:

LOL, yeah, we got another guy or two.  Team is stacked.  

Sounds like maybe it'll be a game then.  Looking forward to seeing it.  

(You have to understand these things from our view:  We heard the exact same tones of bravado with all the hype last year about North Posey...  and it turned out to be just Sound and Fury, so it does leave one skeptical.  And then with no real means of comparison...  it is all just "wait and see."  But an interesting game would be most welcome, outcomes notwithstanding.)  

Edited November 24, 2024 by LuersMom5

[Rodney]

21 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

Ask North Posey how that arrogance worked out. 40-3. Watched plenty of film on HH. I am sure that Luers will still decide to show up in Indy. Maybe HH wins, who knows, but stop acting like it’s a foregone conclusion that HH wins. This is not 6A where Indy owns it. Ask Decatur Central who everyone South of Muncie was picking to roll Snider last year, uh 34-6. Same with New PAL several years ago against Snider and Snider won. Luers has won many state titles, they won’t be scared of HH

I do not recall a majority consensus that DC was going to beat snider last year...

 

while being to lazy to go back and look I would be almost certain that the majority picked snider in that game.

 

[BTF]

It's hard to ignore how Luers manhandled an undefeated Garrett team last week. To start the game by throwing a 95 yard pick six and end up winning 28-14 is utter dominance. It's also hard to ignore that Heritage Hills hasn't had a close game (Indiana opponents) all season. Sagarin actually loves this team and has them as a two touchdown favorite over Luers. Now, does Sagarin have it's flaws? Absolutely. I don't see Heritage Hills beating Carroll or Snider as Sagarin suggests. At the end of the day, this should be a pretty good game. 

3 minutes ago, Rodney said:

I do not recall a majority consensus that DC was going to beat snider last year...

 

while being to lazy to go back and look I would be almost certain that the majority picked snider in that game.

 

No dog in this fight. I know Temptation liked Decatur Central last season. Beyond that, who the favorite was on this forum fails me. 

[Rodney]

3 minutes ago, BTF said:

It's hard to ignore how Luers manhandled an undefeated Garrett team last week. To start the game by throwing a 95 yard pick six and end up winning 28-14 is utter dominance. It's also hard to ignore that Heritage Hills hasn't had a close game (Indiana opponents) all season. Sagarin actually loves this team and has them as a two touchdown favorite over Luers. Now, does Sagarin have it's flaws? Absolutely. I don't see Heritage Hills beating Carroll or Snider as Sagarin suggests. At the end of the day, this should be a pretty good game. 

No dog in this fight. I know Temptation liked Decatur Central last season. Beyond that, who the favorite was on this forum fails me. 

temp picks some odd hills to die on

 

the man has been hyping the HCC over the mic since 1987 and then dips for the week the one time he can actually screech that he was right.

I personally think this game will contribute to one of the most exciting finals in awhile

3a 4a 5a and 6a could all be great games

 

Going to go with HH though.

 

i know nothing of 1a and havent paid any attention to 2a this year bite me

Edited November 24, 2024 by Rodney

[BTF]

4 minutes ago, Rodney said:

temp picks some odd hills to die on

 

the man has been hyping the HCC over the mic since 1987 and then dips for the week the one time he can actually screech that he was right.

I personally think this game will contribute to one of the most exciting finals in awhile

3a 4a 5a and 6a could all be great games

 

Going to go with HH though.

 

i know nothing of 1a and havent paid any attention to 2a this year bite me

Agree, one of the most intriguing state finals in recent memory. I'm with you on 1A, not much dog in the fight. Adams Central fascinates me in 2A. Can they win that division after coming up short three years in a row in 1A? That would be an interesting story. The four highest divisons could go in any direction. I agree with Temp in that 4A might be the top of the card. 

[Rodney]

7 minutes ago, BTF said:

Agree, one of the most intriguing state finals in recent memory. I'm with you on 1A, not much dog in the fight. Adams Central fascinates me in 2A. Can they win that division after coming up short three years in a row in 1A? That would be an interesting story. The four highest divisons could go in any direction. I agree with Temp in that 4A might be the top of the card. 

4a>6a=3a>5a

order of best potential matchups

you goin this year?

Edited November 24, 2024 by Rodney