GID College Football Playoff Committee

[gonzoron]

51 minutes ago, Sparty said:

Agreed.  I’m an Irish, fan, but I will not be losing sleep over them not being in.  I’ll still watch the games.  

Same. I’m out of reactions for the day.

[PDB26]

1 hour ago, Komets2727 said:

Damn 23, how do you really feel? If you had won one of those 2 losses, I would be on your side and the Irish probably would have been likely a 6-7 seed. I love your passion for the Irish and I know it sucks for Irish fans, but maybe this brings change to the CFP that is desperately needed. Get rid of the group of 5 qualifiers, get rid of the conference title games, increase the field to 16 teams, and let’s go. Screw the SEC and Big 10 wanting guaranteed 4-5 teams each as well. Lastly, schedule appropriately. Play a couple cupcakes, but challenge yourself as well

Not only do the SEC and Big Ten want four guarantees, but, I’m fairly certain, they want to be able to allocate those births as they see fit.

[Bash Riprock]

1 hour ago, Yuccaguy said:

There's only so many schools you should add...but JMU and the LOWER 5 shouldn't be given a bid

So you basically want a P4 playoff system only?? Boise State and other schools never to have a seat?

ND did this to themselves…they refuse to join a conference outright and the one they tie themselves to stunk this year. Their conference champ had a 8-5 record and as a result had no teams make the dance. 

[Komets2727]

17 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

So you basically want a P4 playoff system only?? Boise State and other schools never to have a seat?

ND did this to themselves…they refuse to join a conference outright and the one they tie themselves to stunk this year. Their conference champ had a 8-5 record and as a result had no teams make the dance. 

ND did this to themselves over greed. They get all of the money from Peacock/NBC which is hundreds of millions of dollars and apparently that super ceded making the CFP. People need to stop with the ACC was down this year rhetoric. They suck every year overall. Yes, Clemson had some great years, Miami is generally good, but there is zero depth to that conference. 

[PDB26]

13 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

So you basically want a P4 playoff system only?? Boise State and other schools never to have a seat?

ND did this to themselves…they refuse to join a conference outright and the one they tie themselves to stunk this year. Their conference champ had a 8-5 record and as a result had no teams make the dance. 

First, Miami is in the ACC and made the playoff.

Second, it makes more sense to take the 12 best teams in football. If we want to have a subjective committee or design a computer ranking, that's a stylistic choice, but guaranteeing a G5 team a spot doesn't make a ton of sense, especially in many years when it is likely there will be a well-rested Big Ten or SEC team sitting at number 5.

Third, ND has nobody to blame but themselves for losing to Miami and A&M. They also have nobody to blame but themselves for their arrangement with the ACC. I think there are plenty of walkover teams in the middle and bottoms of all conferences, but ND's ACC arrangement has aged poorly, especially with Clemson and Florida State backsliding and no guarantee for the league to give ND teams at the top of the league.

5 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

ND did this to themselves over greed. They get all of the money from Peacock/NBC which is hundreds of millions of dollars and apparently that super ceded making the CFP. People need to stop with the ACC was down this year rhetoric. They suck every year overall. Yes, Clemson had some great years, Miami is generally good, but there is zero depth to that conference. 

The NBC deal is worth to Notre Dame about what each Big Ten team takes from the league's media rights.

[Bobref]

32 minutes ago, PDB26 said:

I don’t know if it’s a message to join a league or not, but it’s at least a message that the arrangement with the ACC is going to be more problematic without assurances that Miami and, I guess, Clemson appear on the schedule with greater frequency.

Maybe ND can join the Big Ten with one other program so the league can split into two ten team divisions where they play nine conference games.

Jack Swarbrick, the guy who ushered Notre Dame athletics into the modern age, always said there were only a few things that could prompt the Irish to re-examine their independent status: if they lost their strong broadcast partner (NBC), couldn't secure a fair path to the postseason (like CFP access), or faced an unsustainable financial disadvantage due to conference realignment, especially concerning lucrative TV deals.

I firmly believe that the bolded language represents exactly what happened this year. And there’s no reason it won’t happen again. It was absolutely predictable, and it’s totally repeatable. I fully support a complete re-examination of the cost/benefit of independent status in football, in light of the massive changes in the college football landscape since that policy was established.

 

[Bash Riprock]

Looks like ND taking their ball and heading home. 
 

 

[Irishman]

Notre Dame made $20 Million last year from making the playoff.
$4 Million: For qualifying for the 12-team playoff.

$4 Million: For advancing to the quarterfinals (a first-round home win).

$6 Million: For reaching the semifinals (upsetting Georgia).

$6 Million: For playing in the national championship game (losing to Ohio State)

Every other program had to share what they earned with their conference. I said it before the championship last year, that the payoff for remaining independent was huge. If nothing changes, they will still be in the conversation for the next couple years as far as being a playoff team. Does missing out really provide enough impetus to joing a conference? 

[Coach Nowlin]

Professional football players will continue to choose to not play exhibition games unless guaranteed  money on the table to play said Exhibition games in December/January 

[Bash Riprock]

23 minutes ago, PDB26 said:

First, Miami is in the ACC and made the playoff.

Second, it makes more sense to take the 12 best teams in football. If we want to have a subjective committee or design a computer ranking, that's a stylistic choice, but guaranteeing a G5 team a spot doesn't make a ton of sense, especially in many years when it is likely there will be a well-rested Big Ten or SEC team sitting at number 5.

Third, ND has nobody to blame but themselves for losing to Miami and A&M. They also have nobody to blame but themselves for their arrangement with the ACC. I think there are plenty of walkover teams in the middle and bottoms of all conferences, but ND's ACC arrangement has aged poorly, especially with Clemson and Florida State backsliding and no guarantee for the league to give ND teams at the top of the league.

The NBC deal is worth to Notre Dame about what each Big Ten team takes from the league's media rights.

You are right. My bad about Miami. But doesn’t take away that ND tied itself to a weaker P4 conference (at least this year) and then lost head to head to the only representative of that conference in the playoffs. 

[PDB26]

7 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Looks like ND taking their ball and heading home. 
 

 

Bash, gotta do a better job consuming information on the internet. Pete NAKOS is a real person, Pete NOKOS is not.

[Coach Nowlin]

3 minutes ago, PDB26 said:

Bash, gotta do a better job consuming information on the internet. Pete NAKOS is a real person, Pete NOKOS is not.

YES !!!   

0-2 🙂 

 

6 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Professional football players will continue to choose to not play exhibition games unless guaranteed  money on the table to play said Exhibition games in December/January 

Kansas St for example 

[RingLeader]

11 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

You are right. My bad about Miami. But doesn’t take away that ND tied itself to a weaker P4 conference (at least this year) and then lost head to head to the only representative of that conference in the playoffs. 

ND was 5-1 vs ACC

Miami was 6-2 and finished 3rd

 

stop kidding yourself, conferences didn’t like it one bit ND almost running table last year and keeping all that money. Committee slipped Bama ahead of ND on Tuesday fully aware Bama was struggling and prob going to get thumped yesterday and then announced conf champ games wouldn’t matter. Bama of course didn’t drop at all after beat down and ND did.  If you can’t see that Idk what to tell you, you’re blind.  

ND’s loss to Miami to begin year mattered and Bama’s loss to 5-7 Florida State to start year did not. 

Edited December 7, 2025 by RingLeader

[Irishman]

8 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

YES !!!   

0-2 🙂 

 

Kansas St for example 

And now this:
Could change some minds of programs that needs some cash.
https://apnews.com/article/iowa-state-cyclones-bowl-ca4cf61945e63ffac1067f8fd29ff0ca 

[Footballking16]

15 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Jack Swarbrick, the guy who ushered Notre Dame athletics into the modern age, always said there were only a few things that could prompt the Irish to re-examine their independent status: if they lost their strong broadcast partner (NBC), couldn't secure a fair path to the postseason (like CFP access), or faced an unsustainable financial disadvantage due to conference realignment, especially concerning lucrative TV deals.

I firmly believe that the bolded language represents exactly what happened this year. And there’s no reason it won’t happen again. It was absolutely predictable, and it’s totally repeatable. I fully support a complete re-examination of the cost/benefit of independent status in football, in light of the massive changes in the college football landscape since that policy was established.

 

A fair path? Laughable. Don’t lose to the two best teams on your schedule, especially when one of those teams is one you’re directly competing with for the last at-large spot. 
 

Notre Dame has gotten preferential treatment for almost a century. Notre Dame lost at home to a MAC team that ended up with a losing record and not only made the playoff but received the highest at-large bid. 

[Coach Nowlin]

hahaha 500k , how much do they save by not going as a school?   I would bet the number of the fine is close to operational cost on bowl game 

[PDB26]

26 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Jack Swarbrick, the guy who ushered Notre Dame athletics into the modern age, always said there were only a few things that could prompt the Irish to re-examine their independent status: if they lost their strong broadcast partner (NBC), couldn't secure a fair path to the postseason (like CFP access), or faced an unsustainable financial disadvantage due to conference realignment, especially concerning lucrative TV deals.

I firmly believe that the bolded language represents exactly what happened this year. And there’s no reason it won’t happen again. It was absolutely predictable, and it’s totally repeatable. I fully support a complete re-examination of the cost/benefit of independent status in football, in light of the massive changes in the college football landscape since that policy was established.

 

Totally understand your position, I'm just not sure ND didn't have a fair path this season because they were not in a conference. Vandy finished 10-2 in the SEC but lost to the two teams they needed to get one win against, just like Notre Dame lost to the two teams they needed to get one win against.

I agree that the administration must re-examine the value of independence. SC's membership in the Big Ten makes joining that conference a better proposition than ever. ND likely keeps its annual game with SC, and can schedule Navy out of conference.

Edited December 7, 2025 by PDB26

[23andCounting]

10 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

A fair path? Laughable. Don’t lose to the two best teams on your schedule, especially when one of those teams is one you’re directly competing with for the last at-large spot. 
 

Notre Dame has gotten preferential treatment for almost a century. Notre Dame lost at home to a MAC team that ended up with a losing record and not only made the playoff but received the highest at-large bid. 

And ultimately made it to the championship game dufus. It's widely accepted that Notre Dame is even better this year. Notre Dame not making it in is what's laughable. They were already a 5.5 point favorite against Oklahoma on the road. Again, Vegas gave Notre Dame the fourth best odds of winning the championship...........AND THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT IN. Lol, good grief. It's good comedy seeing the "haters," you being the most obvious one, trying to justify why the committee was right. Your stock is tanking. 

[PDB26]

1 hour ago, PDB26 said:

Third, ND has nobody to blame but themselves for losing to Miami and A&M. They also have nobody to blame but themselves for their arrangement with the ACC. I think there are plenty of walkover teams in the middle and bottoms of all conferences, but ND's ACC arrangement has aged poorly, especially with Clemson and Florida State backsliding and no guarantee for the league to give ND teams at the top of the league.

38 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

You are right. My bad about Miami. But doesn’t take away that ND tied itself to a weaker P4 conference (at least this year) and then lost head to head to the only representative of that conference in the playoffs. 

What I said is in bold.

 

[PDB26]

45 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Looks like ND taking their ball and heading home. 
 

 

However, ND's official account has just said the same, so.

[Bash Riprock]

36 minutes ago, RingLeader said:

ND was 5-1 vs ACC

Miami was 6-2 and finished 3rd

 

stop kidding yourself, conferences didn’t like it one bit ND almost running table last year and keeping all that money. Committee slipped Bama ahead of ND on Tuesday fully aware Bama was struggling and prob going to get thumped yesterday and then announced conf champ games wouldn’t matter. Bama of course didn’t drop at all after beat down and ND did.  If you can’t see that Idk what to tell you, you’re blind.  

ND’s loss to Miami to begin year mattered and Bama’s loss to 5-7 Florida State to start year did not. 

How am I kidding myself?  ND tied themselves partly to mainly the worst teams in an underperforming conference. That is fact. They lost head to head to a team that didn’t win that conference. Their SOS wasn’t great. 
 

ND wants it both ways. They want independence, they want the all the money and they want the big dance. Join a conference or win all your games. It’s that simple. 

[Bobref]

29 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

A fair path? Laughable.

 

23 minutes ago, PDB26 said:

I'm just not sure ND didn't have a fair path this season

I think, in context, Swarbrick’s remark did not imply anything nefarious. He simply meant if Notre Dame’s path to a national championship faced significant obstacles that conference members did not, the issue would be reevaluated. IMO, it does.

Under the current format, ND can never be an automatic qualifier, and can never get a first round bye. Now, it appears the Committee is placing increased emphasis on participation in conference championship games, making them “no lose” propositions. Even if conference championship games go away - which they are likely to do with an expanded playoff - there are plenty who believe that Notre Dame is able to manipulate its schedule in a way that provides an advantage, which they could not do to that extent if they were members of a conference. And I firmly believe that line of thinking was a factor in the Committee’s disappointing, but understandable, decision.

[Bobref]

The Irish have announced they are withdrawing from consideration for a bowl game. Another disappointing, but understandable, decision. 

[PHJIrish]

3 hours ago, Yuccaguy said:

I know that THIS will be the topic all week on Sports radio...  but ND and Vandy got shafted!

There's only so many schools you should add...but JMU and the LOWER 5 shouldn't be given a bid, IMO.  

College Football has to get a Commissioner/President...Governing body and start working like the NFL.  

This could be the tipping point.  And NIL has to be reined in.  Like it or not, Kiffin is correct in his assessment of the current system.

Like!

[Yuccaguy]

1 hour ago, Bash Riprock said:

So you basically want a P4 playoff system only?? Boise State and other schools never to have a seat?

ND did this to themselves…they refuse to join a conference outright and the one they tie themselves to stunk this year. Their conference champ had a 8-5 record and as a result had no teams make the dance. 

I am not an expert on the situation.   But the current Playoff system in Division 1A is less that of 2A and 3A.  Both have 16 teams in the playoffs..

As for NIL.  It's is now absolutely imperative to have an independent governing body in charge!  The WILD WEST will be the death of College Football.  $100 handshakes are now a thing of the past 

Edited December 7, 2025 by Yuccaguy