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Carson Steele picks up first offer from Indiana State

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2 minutes ago, Trojanmp52 said:

If I am wrong please tell me but Spegal was not at new pal his first 2 years

You would be correct. He was at Delta for his first two years

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3 hours ago, Knightmare said:

What Spegal has done at New Pal is great, but Steele is the better RB.  I think D1 teams are hesitant to offer Steele because his workload has been crazy at CG, and they are worried about his long-term health.

Thru their junior seasons, Spegal had 1001 carries.  Steele has had 703.

they seem like very different backs to me

Steele is 6'2" 210 lbs

Spegal is 5'10" 225 lbs

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IMO Steele has the higher ceiling of the two for college football. Charlie will go down as the better HS back out of the two, Steele will have the better college career. 


They're different types of RBs. Steele is overall more athletic and has a frame to work with.

Charlie was stronger than every player on the field and it showed. When playing 18-23 year old boys at the next level they're all that strong. 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, CaptainHook said:

Thru their junior seasons, Spegal had 1001 carries.  Steele has had 703.

And Spegal did not receive a scholarship to IU, he walked on.  Something that Steele can do if he so chooses.

 

I think Spegal does not have a scholarship offer because people do not believe he is good enough.  Steele does not have an offer because people do not believe he will be healthy.  Very different reasons, but still the same result.

 

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5 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

1. A lack of open field speed yet fast enough to out run Ben Davis, Warren Central, Cathedral, plus other MIC defenders for long TD runs on several occasions. One heck of a shifty back too.

2. Of course he wouldn't be listed in the top 15 right now he only played 3 games his Junior season. His body of work as a Freshman and Sophomore was pretty darn good. I think you will see him jump into the top 10 for Indiana Class of 2021 if he stays healthy.

3. Difficult to compare Spegal's Junior year to Steele's Junior year because Steele only played 3 games. If you want to compare their Freshman and Soph years we can 

Spegal Freshman 356 carries 1,958 yds 17 TD's

Spegal Sophomore 327 carries 2,385 yds 33 TD's

Steele Freshman 272 carries 1,703 yds 20 TD

Steele Sophomore 367 carries 2,270 yds 29 TD

Compare away

Maybe these guys are being used too much

The lifespan of a RB is rather short relative to other positions on the field.  There may be a perception amongst recruiters that perhaps 1200 carries over a 4 year high school career has taken some time off the back end of their career 

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1 hour ago, Knightmare said:

And Spegal did not receive a scholarship to IU, he walked on.  Something that Steele can do if he so chooses.

 

I think Spegal does not have a scholarship offer because people do not believe he is good enough.  Steele does not have an offer because people do not believe he will be healthy.  Very different reasons, but still the same result.

 

Charlie did have offers.  Army and Indiana State.  Would have loved to see Charlie featured as the fullback in Army's offense.  I think he was tailor made for that role.  But I am also anxious to see where his work ethic and talent land him at IU.

Carson is quite the athlete.  Being banged up with 2 injuries his senior year (both off the field) does put him behind a little, but believe things will now start opening up.  Again, I could see him run the ball at the next level...but also see him playing that OLB position....or even the Mike.  He's also really strong and can support more weight on his frame.  He would also be fun to watch in a SS position.  Lots of options for Carson.

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3 hours ago, DT said:

Maybe these guys are being used too much

The lifespan of a RB is rather short relative to other positions on the field.  There may be a perception amongst recruiters that perhaps 1200 carries over a 4 year high school career has taken some time off the back end of their career 

I wouldn’t expect Steele’s load to be as heavy next year. He will still get the most carries out of all the backs, but with Weems having a year under his belt now, the load for Steele might be taken down just a bit. Also having Brandon Wheat fully healthy at the wingback position will help.

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2 minutes ago, cg_holmeaid said:

I wouldn’t expect Steele’s load to be as heavy next year. He will still get the most carries out of all the backs, but with Weems having a year under his belt now, the load for Steele might be taken down just a bit. Also having Brandon Wheat fully healthy at the wingback position will help.

also might look to throw a touch more. do forget about Delp and  Evans

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55 minutes ago, Trojanmp52 said:

also might look to throw a touch more. do forget about Delp and  Evans

I would expect Delp to play more split end, and slot. Thanks for pointing out Evans as well, forgot that he was out with injury also

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1 hour ago, cg_holmeaid said:

I would expect Delp to play more split end, and slot. Thanks for pointing out Evans as well, forgot that he was out with injury also

I can see that with Delp also do not forget about 14 I can not think of his name off the top of my head

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8 hours ago, CaptainHook said:

Thru their junior seasons, Spegal had 1001 carries.  Steele has had 703.

they seem like very different backs to me

Steele is 6'2" 210 lbs

Spegal is 5'10" 225 lbs

That is three years (Spegal) vs two for Steele though. 

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On 12/18/2019 at 10:26 PM, TrojanDad said:

Austin Booker (Jr) and Caden Curry (So) both picked up offers from Iowa today. Both are on the DL for Center Grove. 

Booker just picked up an offer from IU today

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On 12/18/2019 at 10:26 PM, TrojanDad said:

Austin Booker (Jr) and Caden Curry (So) both picked up offers from Iowa today. Both are on the DL for Center Grove. 

I thought center grove didnt have any talent?

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10 hours ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

I thought center grove didnt have any talent?

LOL....that wasn't me who made that quote.....Merry Christmas Warrior!!

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1 hour ago, TrojanDad said:

LOL....that wasn't me who made that quote.....Merry Christmas Warrior!!

 

11 hours ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

I thought center grove didnt have any talent?

The question asked about CG, BD and WC was "where's the talent?"

The question was based on the fact that The Attached Indiana 2020 Top 50 Prospect list only includes 1 player from the 3 schools "combined"  Its almost unfathomable that BD and WC both have not a single player on the list.  Yes, talent is cyclical, but this surely is an anomaly.  

With regards to CG, there is a huge stable of talent in the lower grades.  

 

2021 looks a bit thin for the Big 3 as well.

https://247sports.com/college/bucknell/Season/2021-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=IN

 

https://www.scout.com/Season/2020-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=IN

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45 minutes ago, DT said:

 

The question asked about CG, BD and WC was "where's the talent?"

The question was based on the fact that The Attached Indiana 2020 Top 50 Prospect list only includes 1 player from the 3 schools "combined"  Its almost unfathomable that BD and WC both have not a single player on the list.  Yes, talent is cyclical, but this surely is an anomaly.  

With regards to CG, there is a huge stable of talent in the lower grades.  

 

2021 looks a bit thin for the Big 3 as well.

https://247sports.com/college/bucknell/Season/2021-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=IN

 

https://www.scout.com/Season/2020-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=IN

Easy now.  Facts can really get in the way of a narrative and many posters’ hyperbole.  They love to take a factual statement and twist it.  

The fact that we are actually debating whether or not new Palestine would stand a chance in 6A proves the statement that the senior classes at the mega schools were down is true.

Keep doing you DT.  Merry Christmas!

 

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44 minutes ago, Temptation said:

Easy now.  Facts can really get in the way of a narrative and many posters’ hyperbole.  They love to take a factual statement and twist it.  

The fact that we are actually debating whether or not new Palestine would stand a chance in 6A proves the statement that the senior classes at the mega schools were down is true.

Keep doing you DT.  Merry Christmas!

 

Interesting point

If 4A NP is indeed the best team in the state this year, what does that say about the quality of our high school football in Indiana in 2019?

BD and WC are the two bell cows of Indiana high school football.  There is no question about that statement, from both an inside and outside perspective.  Carmel quietly has become the most consistent developer of D1 talent amongst the mega schools, and CG looks to have the most upside based on what is coming up at the lower levels.

I made a statement in an earlier post that the power center of MIC football has shifted from BD-WC to CA-CG.  Thye system schools have caught and passed the pure talent schools.  

 

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, TrojanDad said:

LOL....that wasn't me who made that quote.....Merry Christmas Warrior!!

I know it wasn't. Haha. I just thought id ask someone who is in the know there cuz i was told there wasn't 😅 merry Christmas to you too.

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Am I the only one that thinks Carson Steele sounds a little bit like the featured performer in an adult cinema production?

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