ChiSox312 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Congrats to Junior RB/LB Drayk Bowen from Andrean for winning Indiana Gatorade Player of The Year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Is he the first Junior or younger to win the award in Indiana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallCounty Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, DumfriesYMCA said: Is he the first Junior or younger to win the award in Indiana? No, Rex Grossman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, MarshallCounty said: No, Rex Grossman Tbf….I was in diapers when Rex was a freshman in high school lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuccaguy Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 6 hours ago, DumfriesYMCA said: Tbf….I was in diapers when Rex was a freshman in high school lol My (younger) brother's Homestead Spartan team was so proud of reaching the 1998 State Finals it was ridiculous. After having been TORCHED by Rick Mirer at the 4A level in a playoff game (during HIS time as a player, 1988). He thought they had climbed the FB mountaintop a decade later, while he was in the Marine Corps.... and would bring home the Championship hardware. Uh, nope! They got SMOKED by Bloomington South! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhpatriot04 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 15 hours ago, MarshallCounty said: No, Rex Grossman Cutler got his first start at QB in 1998 when the senior was injured against Southridge. Cutler, better athlete than Grossman then, better college QB than Grossman, and better NFL QB, especially for the Bears. Truth: https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/8/31/22648501/chicago-bears-qb-ranking-jay-cutler-mitch-trubisky-justin-fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastpacedO Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 4 hours ago, hhpatriot04 said: Cutler got his first start at QB in 1998 when the senior was injured against Southridge. Cutler, better athlete than Grossman then, better college QB than Grossman, and better NFL QB, especially for the Bears. Truth: https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/8/31/22648501/chicago-bears-qb-ranking-jay-cutler-mitch-trubisky-justin-fields The college part is very debatable. Jay Cutler in 4 season as starting QB threw for 8,697 yds 59 TD's 36 Int's, Rex Grossman in 3 seasons as starting QB threw for 9,164 yds 77 TD's 36 Int's. You could 100% say Cutler was the better NFL QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat1992 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Grossman was also able to get the Bears to a superbowl while Cutler, in the eyes of some Bears fans, quit on his teammates in the NFC championship game in 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Wildcat1992 said: Cutler, in the eyes of some Bears fans, quit on his teammates in the NFC championship game in 2011. Yes, and that is so unfair. What people don’t remember is that the ensuing MRI confirmed a sprain of Cutler’s MCL. https://www.masslive.com/sports/2011/01/todays_trifecta_jay_cutlers_mr.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxawax Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Wildcat1992 said: Grossman was also able to get the Bears to a superbowl while Cutler, in the eyes of some Bears fans, quit on his teammates in the NFC championship game in 2011. I don’t know how, because he absolutely crapped his diaper in that super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhpatriot04 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 20 hours ago, FastpacedO said: The college part is very debatable. Jay Cutler in 4 season as starting QB threw for 8,697 yds 59 TD's 36 Int's, Rex Grossman in 3 seasons as starting QB threw for 9,164 yds 77 TD's 36 Int's. You could 100% say Cutler was the better NFL QB. Include Cutler's rushing stats as well -- minus sacks -- because well he had a Vandy line in front of him in the SEC. If they traded places, who puts up the better numbers? Regardless, congrats to the Andrean community and Bowen on the award this season! 10 hours ago, Staxawax said: I don’t know how, because he absolutely crapped his diaper in that super bowl. He had a torn ACL... Just because he didn't cry about it immediately to the media. Then they took away all of his WRs, then his OL. Urlacher and other Bears teammates have repeatedly said that Cutler was a good teammate. He just didn't care about the media... I'd guess for a lot of reasons, primarily his upbringing (father was ISP, mother worked at the HS. He poured concrete in the summers and always had that kind of "I don't care" mentality which just didn't play well in national media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 5:29 PM, Yuccaguy said: My (younger) brother's Homestead Spartan team was so proud of reaching the 1998 State Finals it was ridiculous. After having been TORCHED by Rick Mirer at the 4A level in a playoff game (during HIS time as a player, 1988). He thought they had climbed the FB mountaintop a decade later, while he was in the Marine Corps.... and would bring home the Championship hardware. Uh, nope! They got SMOKED by Bloomington South! Was that Rex Grossman? Snider had a chance to play them the year before, but fell to Penn in the "Mud Bowl." Snider/Homestead 1997/1998 was a great two year rivalry. Both teams manhandling their opponents leading up to the games. Huge crowds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuccaguy Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, BTF said: Was that Rex Grossman? Snider had a chance to play them the year before, but fell to Penn in the "Mud Bowl." Snider/Homestead 1997/1998 was a great two year rivalry. Both teams manhandling their opponents leading up to the games. Huge crowds. Yes that was Rex Grossman, torching the heck out of the Spartans in their ONLY State Finals appearance. 97/98 might have been the only time in the "pre-SAC" era, that HHS/Snider were on the same standing. The local (HHS Area) feeling was that we should be playing more of an SAC style schedule. The ensuing years getting beat by Norwell, East Noble, Huntington North and the like kinda put that dream to rest for a while. Edited December 10, 2021 by Yuccaguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Yuccaguy said: Yes that was Rex Grossman, torching the heck out of the Spartans in their ONLY State Finals appearance. 97/98 might have been the only time in the "pre-SAC" era, that HHS/Snider were on the same standing. The local (HHS Area) feeling was that we should be playing more of an SAC style schedule. The ensuing years getting beat by Norwell, East Noble, Huntington North and the like kinda put that dream to rest for a while. Homestead's 2002 team that didn't even get out of sectionals might have been their best team ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuccaguy Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 10 hours ago, BTF said: Homestead's 2002 team that didn't even get out of sectionals might have been their best team ever. Drew Wood (Now at Northridge as an Administrator) has them STEAMROLLING for a few years when he was there. Upon further reflection, I believe that you are correct. Then again, the "ping pong balls" had them facing Snider in the 1st round in 2002. "Seeding"??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 15 hours ago, Yuccaguy said: Drew Wood (Now at Northridge as an Administrator) has them STEAMROLLING for a few years when he was there. Upon further reflection, I believe that you are correct. Then again, the "ping pong balls" had them facing Snider in the 1st round in 2002. "Seeding"??? And Snider had two weeks to prepare while Homestead did not. Snider drew a bye while Homestead had a tune up game against Marion that was over at halftime. I put 2002 right up there with 1998. I'll always be an advocate for seeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 5:23 PM, Staxawax said: I don’t know how, because he absolutely crapped his diaper in that super bowl. Defense and the return game with Devin Hester carried the Bears. Let’s face it. At no point in my lifetime has a QB carried the Bears. Hopefully, Fields reverses that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 3:24 AM, hhpatriot04 said: Include Cutler's rushing stats as well -- minus sacks -- because well he had a Vandy line in front of him in the SEC. If they traded places, who puts up the better numbers? Regardless, congrats to the Andrean community and Bowen on the award this season! He had a torn ACL... Just because he didn't cry about it immediately to the media. Then they took away all of his WRs, then his OL. Urlacher and other Bears teammates have repeatedly said that Cutler was a good teammate. He just didn't care about the media... I'd guess for a lot of reasons, primarily his upbringing (father was ISP, mother worked at the HS. He poured concrete in the summers and always had that kind of "I don't care" mentality which just didn't play well in national media. One of the most idiotic storylines to come out after the game was his knee had to be fine because he was seen walking in a Chicago steakhouse that night. That’s completely tone deaf to the reality that you can walk with a torn ACL, but you sure as heck can’t make football cuts and play without your knee buckling. I admit Cutlers general “I don’t care attitude” with the media. I think overtime he’s won over a lot of Bears fans. Especially now. He’s a weekly regular on a very popular ESPN radio show in Chicago. He’s hilarious to listen to on radio. Very insightful as well. I know he has a few business endeavors, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he once again looked into doing color commentary. He was in talks with one of the networks before signing with Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 He couldn’t even get offensive or defensive player of the year from nwitimes.com journalism is dead thanks cnn, nytimes, and wapo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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