HHPatriots Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Some history between these 2, some one score heartbreakers with just one win by HH and before this digresses into another "this football game carries the stench of Rome" thread, lets look at the history: Heritage Hills 13-1 VS. Indianapolis Chatard 14-0 This is the 9th meeting between Heritage Hills and Chatard and the Trojans lead the series 7-1. The first meeting between these 2 schools was in the 1997 Regional, The next 6 meetings were in the South Semi State and this will be the 2nd meeting in the state finals. Heritage Hills lone victory in the series came in 2004, The Trojans came into that game as a heavy favorite and were the 3 time defending 3A state champs winning the title the previous 3 seasons. In that game Chatard led 10-0 after the first quarter, Heritage Hills added a Jace Morrison field goal in the 2nd quarter and trailed 10-3 at halftime. The Patriots had a long clock killing drive in the 3rd quarter and tied it up with 2:29 remaining in the 3rd on a Bryce Pund 2-yard touchdown run. Neither team was able to muster much offense in the 4th quarter before Jace Morrison kicked a 38-yard field goal with 8.3 sceonds left to seal the victory. Series 1997 Indianapolis Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 21 2001 Indianapolis Chatard 34 Heritage Hills 14 2002 Indianapolis Chatard 35 Heritage Hills 28 2003 Indy Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 3 2004 Heritage Hills 13 Indianapolis Chatard 10 2005 Indianapolis Chatard 21 Heritage Hills 20 Overtime 2007 Indianapolis Chatard 28 Heritage Hills 17 2019 Indianapolis Chatard 34 Heritage Hills 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 12 minutes ago, HHPatriots said: Some history between these 2, some one score heartbreakers with just one win by HH and before this digresses into another "this football game carries the stench of Rome" thread, lets look at the history: Heritage Hills 13-1 VS. Indianapolis Chatard 14-0 This is the 9th meeting between Heritage Hills and Chatard and the Trojans lead the series 7-1. The first meeting between these 2 schools was in the 1997 Regional, The next 6 meetings were in the South Semi State and this will be the 2nd meeting in the state finals. Heritage Hills lone victory in the series came in 2004, The Trojans came into that game as a heavy favorite and were the 3 time defending 3A state champs winning the title the previous 3 seasons. In that game Chatard led 10-0 after the first quarter, Heritage Hills added a Jace Morrison field goal in the 2nd quarter and trailed 10-3 at halftime. The Patriots had a long clock killing drive in the 3rd quarter and tied it up with 2:29 remaining in the 3rd on a Bryce Pund 2-yard touchdown run. Neither team was able to muster much offense in the 4th quarter before Jace Morrison kicked a 38-yard field goal with 8.3 sceonds left to seal the victory. Series 1997 Indianapolis Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 21 2001 Indianapolis Chatard 34 Heritage Hills 14 2002 Indianapolis Chatard 35 Heritage Hills 28 2003 Indy Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 3 2004 Heritage Hills 13 Indianapolis Chatard 10 2005 Indianapolis Chatard 21 Heritage Hills 20 Overtime 2007 Indianapolis Chatard 28 Heritage Hills 17 2019 Indianapolis Chatard 34 Heritage Hills 3 Yep, I am old. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 32 minutes ago, HHPatriots said: Some history between these 2, some one score heartbreakers with just one win by HH and before this digresses into another "this football game carries the stench of Rome" thread, lets look at the history: Heritage Hills 13-1 VS. Indianapolis Chatard 14-0 This is the 9th meeting between Heritage Hills and Chatard and the Trojans lead the series 7-1. The first meeting between these 2 schools was in the 1997 Regional, The next 6 meetings were in the South Semi State and this will be the 2nd meeting in the state finals. Heritage Hills lone victory in the series came in 2004, The Trojans came into that game as a heavy favorite and were the 3 time defending 3A state champs winning the title the previous 3 seasons. In that game Chatard led 10-0 after the first quarter, Heritage Hills added a Jace Morrison field goal in the 2nd quarter and trailed 10-3 at halftime. The Patriots had a long clock killing drive in the 3rd quarter and tied it up with 2:29 remaining in the 3rd on a Bryce Pund 2-yard touchdown run. Neither team was able to muster much offense in the 4th quarter before Jace Morrison kicked a 38-yard field goal with 8.3 sceonds left to seal the victory. Series 1997 Indianapolis Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 21 2001 Indianapolis Chatard 34 Heritage Hills 14 2002 Indianapolis Chatard 35 Heritage Hills 28 2003 Indy Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 3 2004 Heritage Hills 13 Indianapolis Chatard 10 2005 Indianapolis Chatard 21 Heritage Hills 20 Overtime 2007 Indianapolis Chatard 28 Heritage Hills 17 2019 Indianapolis Chatard 34 Heritage Hills 3 Pretty sure there are some members on this forum that played on that 2004 HH team 2007…was that the Martin Chatard years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali23 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 2007 - yes, Zach Martin was on that team. I’d be interested to know how the folks down south feel this 2023 HH team stacks up against the 2019 HH team. I thought that 2019 team came was a juggernaut when they came to Indy, undefeated, I think. And most BC supporters certainly did not expect the score to be so lopsided. Do they still run the same offense? also, what’s the over/under on number of posts before this thread devolves into another P/P vs. public school debate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a dad Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 After a one year dalliance with Air Doyel it looks like Chatard has returned to their “run the ball and play stingy defense” roots. The starting defense is good. Real good. I’’m not sure if Knox gained 100 yards on the starters before the mass substitutions started in the beginning of the third quarter. The running game is mostly between the tackles and has a little bit of speed but nothing game changing. The passing game does just enough to keep the opposing defense honest. Does anyone have a quick synopsis of what HH brings? 4 minutes ago, Cali23 said: 2007 - yes, Zach Martin was on that team. I’d be interested to know how the folks down south feel this 2023 HH team stacks up against the 2019 HH team. I thought that 2019 team came was a juggernaut when they came to Indy, undefeated, I think. And most BC supporters certainly did not expect the score to be so lopsided. Do they still run the same offense? also, what’s the over/under on number of posts before this thread devolves into another P/P vs. public school debate? If we include your post then 4. Exactly 4 posts til P/P was mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 58 minutes ago, HHPatriots said: Some history between these 2, some one score heartbreakers with just one win by HH and before this digresses into another "this football game carries the stench of Rome" thread, lets look at the history: Heritage Hills 13-1 VS. Indianapolis Chatard 14-0 This is the 9th meeting between Heritage Hills and Chatard and the Trojans lead the series 7-1. The first meeting between these 2 schools was in the 1997 Regional, The next 6 meetings were in the South Semi State and this will be the 2nd meeting in the state finals. Heritage Hills lone victory in the series came in 2004, The Trojans came into that game as a heavy favorite and were the 3 time defending 3A state champs winning the title the previous 3 seasons. In that game Chatard led 10-0 after the first quarter, Heritage Hills added a Jace Morrison field goal in the 2nd quarter and trailed 10-3 at halftime. The Patriots had a long clock killing drive in the 3rd quarter and tied it up with 2:29 remaining in the 3rd on a Bryce Pund 2-yard touchdown run. Neither team was able to muster much offense in the 4th quarter before Jace Morrison kicked a 38-yard field goal with 8.3 sceonds left to seal the victory. Series 1997 Indianapolis Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 21 2001 Indianapolis Chatard 34 Heritage Hills 14 2002 Indianapolis Chatard 35 Heritage Hills 28 2003 Indy Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 3 2004 Heritage Hills 13 Indianapolis Chatard 10 2005 Indianapolis Chatard 21 Heritage Hills 20 Overtime 2007 Indianapolis Chatard 28 Heritage Hills 17 2019 Indianapolis Chatard 34 Heritage Hills 3 That was a travesty…one of- if not THE best HH team in a storied history- and turn the ball over 5 times and still almost beat a good Chatard team. Such a shame…that 02 team was State Champ good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 49 minutes ago, DumfriesYMCA said: Pretty sure there are some members on this forum that played on that 2004 HH team 2007…was that the Martin Chatard years? And in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 (edited) 26 minutes ago, tango said: And in 2008. Typical memorial fan. No matter what two teams are playing, a memorial fan will always find a way to include themselves and point at some thing they did. Memorial fans would get more pats on the back if their hands weren’t in the way so much 😂 Edited November 18 by DumfriesYMCA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeqb Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 (edited) 23 minutes ago, DumfriesYMCA said: Typical memorial fan. No matter what two teams are playing, a memorial fan will always find a way to include themselves and point at some thing they did. Memorial fans would get more pats on the back if their hands weren’t in the way so much 😂 Yikes. Lighten up, Francis. No one mentioned Memorial until you did. Zack Martin was a junior in 2007 and senior in 2008. His younger brother, Nick was a junior in 2009 and senior in 2010. So to answer the ‘Martin’ years question, the answer is yes. Assuming you meant the older brother. Edited November 18 by oldtimeqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoctor22 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 2 hours ago, HHPatriots said: Some history between these 2, some one score heartbreakers with just one win by HH and before this digresses into another "this football game carries the stench of Rome" thread, lets look at the history: Heritage Hills 13-1 VS. Indianapolis Chatard 14-0 This is the 9th meeting between Heritage Hills and Chatard and the Trojans lead the series 7-1. The first meeting between these 2 schools was in the 1997 Regional, The next 6 meetings were in the South Semi State and this will be the 2nd meeting in the state finals. Heritage Hills lone victory in the series came in 2004, The Trojans came into that game as a heavy favorite and were the 3 time defending 3A state champs winning the title the previous 3 seasons. In that game Chatard led 10-0 after the first quarter, Heritage Hills added a Jace Morrison field goal in the 2nd quarter and trailed 10-3 at halftime. The Patriots had a long clock killing drive in the 3rd quarter and tied it up with 2:29 remaining in the 3rd on a Bryce Pund 2-yard touchdown run. Neither team was able to muster much offense in the 4th quarter before Jace Morrison kicked a 38-yard field goal with 8.3 sceonds left to seal the victory. Series 1997 Indianapolis Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 21 2001 Indianapolis Chatard 34 Heritage Hills 14 2002 Indianapolis Chatard 35 Heritage Hills 28 2003 Indy Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 3 2004 Heritage Hills 13 Indianapolis Chatard 10 2005 Indianapolis Chatard 21 Heritage Hills 20 Overtime 2007 Indianapolis Chatard 28 Heritage Hills 17 2019 Indianapolis Chatard 34 Heritage Hills 3 Thanks for the detailed recap. I was there as a spectator for all of these games except the 1997 game. Despite the 7-1 Chatard series lead, almost all of these games could have had a different outcome if the ball bounced the other way on one or two plays. This series could easily be 4-4. Always had tons of respect for the HH program and how they are seemingly always in the mix in November. Looking forward to another great game! I haven't seen the Patriots play this year, but it sounds like they spread it out a little more than the old wishbone/option days? Must be pretty good defensively too with how they were able to slow down the GS offense last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Zack was actually on the 05 team as a freshmen playing up, too. I'd have to check my sources, but I believe he was in on the last play to win the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 52 minutes ago, DumfriesYMCA said: Typical memorial fan. No matter what two teams are playing, a memorial fan will always find a way to include themselves and point at some thing they did. Memorial fans would get more pats on the back if their hands weren’t in the way so much 😂 LOL, whatever dude... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 38 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said: Yikes. Lighten up, Francis. No one mentioned Memorial until you did. Zack Martin was a junior in 2007 and senior in 2008. His younger brother, Nick was a junior in 2009 and senior in 2010. So to answer the ‘Martin’ years question, the answer is yes. Assuming you meant the older brother. I forgot about the younger brother. Did he also go to ND? NFL? Zach Martin is still the biggest HS player I've ever seen in person. Just huge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 44 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said: Yikes. Lighten up, Francis. No one mentioned Memorial until you did. Zack Martin was a junior in 2007 and senior in 2008. His younger brother, Nick was a junior in 2009 and senior in 2010. So to answer the ‘Martin’ years question, the answer is yes. Assuming you meant the older brother. It’s a joke lol…and if you understood what he was saying you wouldn’t question it 😂 what do you think happened in 2008 to make a random memorial fan care about what years the Martin brothers played for Chatard?🤣😂🤣😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 (edited) 13 minutes ago, tango said: I forgot about the younger brother. Did he also go to ND? NFL? Zach Martin is still the biggest HS player I've ever seen in person. Just huge! Nick Martin played for the Texans for a while. No idea if he is still playing…he probably is cuz Zach is still playing for the cowboys Edited November 18 by DumfriesYMCA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 14 minutes ago, DumfriesYMCA said: Nick Martin played for the Texans for a while. No idea if he is still playing…he probably is cuz Zach is still playing for the cowboys Nick is currently a free agent, but played for Washington last season according to his Wiki 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali23 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 1 hour ago, tango said: I forgot about the younger brother. Did he also go to ND? NFL? Zach Martin is still the biggest HS player I've ever seen in person. Just huge! Yes. Nick went to ND also. And the oldest brother, Josh, is the head coach of the Chatard freshmen team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 I’ll get this started. What I want: Heritage Hills 28 Chatard 24 What I think is more likely: Chatard 35 Heritage Hills 21 this is clearly one of the more special Chatard teams because it takes A LOT to go undefeated with their schedule….And Heritage Hills is pretty young. If Jett can take over and establish himself as the best player on the field…I think there is a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHPatriots Posted November 18 Author Share Posted November 18 7 hours ago, DumfriesYMCA said: Pretty sure there are some members on this forum that played on that 2004 HH team 2007…was that the Martin Chatard years? Some would argue that if you put the 2000 team against the 2004 team, the 04 team would come out on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHPatriots Posted November 18 Author Share Posted November 18 2 hours ago, DumfriesYMCA said: I’ll get this started. What I want: Heritage Hills 28 Chatard 24 What I think is more likely: Chatard 35 Heritage Hills 21 this is clearly one of the more special Chatard teams because it takes A LOT to go undefeated with their schedule….And Heritage Hills is pretty young. If Jett can take over and establish himself as the best player on the field…I think there is a chance. Yeah, the fact that they went undefeated in the regular season isn't lost on anybody in Lincoln City. 5 hours ago, TheDoctor22 said: Thanks for the detailed recap. I was there as a spectator for all of these games except the 1997 game. Despite the 7-1 Chatard series lead, almost all of these games could have had a different outcome if the ball bounced the other way on one or two plays. This series could easily be 4-4. Always had tons of respect for the HH program and how they are seemingly always in the mix in November. Looking forward to another great game! I haven't seen the Patriots play this year, but it sounds like they spread it out a little more than the old wishbone/option days? Must be pretty good defensively too with how they were able to slow down the GS offense last night? Yeah, we have a different look offensively than the old days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHPatriots Posted November 18 Author Share Posted November 18 6 hours ago, Cali23 said: 2007 - yes, Zach Martin was on that team. I’d be interested to know how the folks down south feel this 2023 HH team stacks up against the 2019 HH team. I thought that 2019 team came was a juggernaut when they came to Indy, undefeated, I think. And most BC supporters certainly did not expect the score to be so lopsided. Do they still run the same offense? also, what’s the over/under on number of posts before this thread devolves into another P/P vs. public school debate? This is a totally different look, as BC coaches will clearly see, we have jettisoned the flexbone. That offense was put together for Cole Sigler, who was a special athlete that couldn't throw well. We dumped that offense. Jett is a dual threat 1000+ passer, 1000+ runner. Dangerous when you flush him. This is a different look than 2019. We still run the wishbone every now and then....some of old guys get a tear in the eye when they do. BUT THEY DON'T RUN IT AS WELL AS 25 YEARS AGO DADGUMIT! 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 5 hours ago, DumfriesYMCA said: It’s a joke lol…and if you understood what he was saying you wouldn’t question it 😂 what do you think happened in 2008 to make a random memorial fan care about what years the Martin brothers played for Chatard?🤣😂🤣😂 You can't read between the lines of a one line comment. What I was saying is he played in 2008. If I wanted to say more I could have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 1 minute ago, tango said: You can't read between the lines of a one line comment. What I was saying is he played in 2008. If I wanted to say more I could have. ??? This is cute what made you feel like you had to restate the very obvious of what “and in 2008” meant? Now you want to be on the offense and say “I only meant that!!!!” that comment got to ya didn’t it lol… ahahahahahahh 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 2 minutes ago, DumfriesYMCA said: ??? This is cute what made you feel like you had to restate the very obvious of what “and in 2008” meant? Now you want to be on the offense and say “I only meant that!!!!” that comment got to ya didn’t it lol… ahahahahahahh 😂😂😂 Yep, you got to me Dumfries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazed and confused Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 What are the odds of 2 jerks hijacking this thread ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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