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Serious question: How does LESS football grow the sport of football in Indiana? How does this benefit students and education-based athletics? In my opinion, opportunity to play a sport allows students to be connected to a school. It's another connection for those students who are at risk of dropping out to a school. It contributes to the school community to have a team to support and cheer for at events such as Homecoming. I am sure no team enjoys getting its hide handed to it every Friday, but there still is an opportunity to play and improve and get better even in those programs that struggle. I just don't understand how less football benefits those who might need it. If a school wishes to make an investment in a football team and program, I say, in the immortal words of the Bad News Bears, "Let Them Play!"

66 Massages??? I haven't had that many hands on me since "The insurrection".... I KEED, I KEED....😁

That’s actually a more understandable way to express it. You’re protected from discrimination if you fall into one of those classes. But if you don’t, tough luck. Now some places have local laws that expand the list of protected classes. But still, protection is not available if your class is not on the list.

Guess it would depend. What were the participation #'s for the two Elkhart schools prior to consolidation? Have to think with consolidation you're really able to set up a freshman and JV squad and really look to develop players for the future. A lot of opportunities out there to grow a program with the right amount of numbers.

It depends on how you look at it. Are you more concerned with assembling an all-star team or offering more student athletes a chance to participate in an extra-curricular activity they love?

SF was leaning towards being Speedy Gonzales from Saturday Morning cartoons at 8. Would have needed an intra-species specialist to help identify as a Mexican mouse........Who was fast......

Parents today: "They let their child off the leash for a minute?????"

They can't block the transfer. They only control the athletics. With limited eligibility he can participate in everything except a varsity game. Meanwhile his former teammates who transferred to Reitz will be allowed to suit up every Friday night. So glad the IHSAA is all about protecting the kids.

You jumped on my yes before I went back and edited it. I was probably typing while you were answering. Sorry. I got locked out of my account and had to fish out my password again...then guess which of the variety of cities my brother has lived in in the last few years to get back in. Here's the rest of what I typed after "Yes". "In the case of 2018, Jason Simmons was not hired until March. From December to March, the program had no leadership as many of Mike Kirschner's top assistants left for their own opportunities. Many of the others weren't sure if they wanted to come back. In effect, the program had no rudder. That, coupled with the loss of 52 seniors, in my opinion sunk Coach Simmons the first year. Yes, you can be rebuilding while retooling too."

perhaps that is a fairer statement....we concur they are variables, but may not align on their impact along with the other variables needed for sustained success. I can get there with your statement...

Yes, mercy rule is a great idea, but we shouldn't have to wait till the second half to start it. Doesn't matter to me if we keep it at 35 points, make it 42 or 49. Although this is a great argument to go back to no mercy rule.

To quote Turd Ferguson-"Who you crappin'?"

Well then we are in agreement. I even acknowledged the same in the post that you grabbed a single sentence out of: From the same post: Ultimately, I like the idea of success factor rather than multipliers because it treats all on the basis of PROVEN advantage or PROVEN outcome as opposed to conjecture. Frankly, if we are being really honest, we should be able to look at the contents of the unmarked box and determine if there an true impact on the balance. Ultimately, I think that comes in the performance. Yes, SF is flawed and doesn't adequately do that right now, but put a four year window on it and a couple of other tweaks, and I think we are closer to making it more pragmatic than punitive.

You actually started 2 threads on contraction at the same time? Bobref and YG...where are you??

Saturday morning is not Friday night.

OK, we gotta give folks time to at least get home before having to run back to the stadium to pick up the kids. We had gotten used to dropping the kids off at the football game, then going to eat, then going to pick the kids up after dinner. I recall the first time that Jeff hit that mercy rule with someone. We'd just ordered and the kids texted and said, "Second half just started and they said something about a running clock." My wife asked what that was and I said, "We've got 24 minutes to have Applebee's cook it, we eat it, and we get back to Jeff before the kids start lighting up the chat with 'Where are you?" If we go to first half, we won't have time to make it through the Taco Bell line on some games. 🙂

Again, that's a hard claim to make considering you've never spent a day in the life of a football player at Dwenger, Pioneer, or Adams Central.............to name a few.

So one of the three hardest working teams in the state. Not sure how you can prove that. Not sure how any program could claim that. Let's just say they are Top 25. Somewhere between 1 and 25, but who really knows.

1. It is hilarious, but not surprising, that when Bobref points out that '69 was probably Munster's best team, HHFDT points out that the '70's were "a different era". By a single year! 2. Only one school made this list based on a one year record....... solely because Mark Bless won't give HHFDT the time of day. That is all.

Ok so I know that DT/HHF brings up contraction every chance he gets. In very, very few cases I believe he makes some good points. But there is another "C" word that I believe would be more of a beneficial talk, consolidation. I know in the southeastern part of the state there are quite a few football programs that would benefit from this. Now I know school corporations make decisions based on a thousand other things then athletic programs but some of these smaller schools that are still out there I think would benefit from either consolidating with other small schools or a big school. I think a great example of this would be the schools in Decatur County. Currently those include Greensburg, North Decatur & South Decatur. These are three schools that are all within a 20 minute drive of each other (Greensburg & North Decatur are literally on the opposite sides of 74). According to the last enrollment numbers if all three of these schools combined they would have a student population of 1,278. This would make "Decatur County High School" a lot more competitive as a 4A school, maybe even a good team to play with Greensburg conference opponent East Central. In recent years South Decatur has had number issues and both North & South have had conference issues. Other schools in southeastern Indiana that could benefit from this: Milan + South Ripley + Jac-Cen-Del = "Ripley County High School" with 950 kids (South Ripley & Jac-Cen-Del do not have football teams) Madison + Southwestern Hanover = "Jefferson County High School" with 1,114 kids (Southwestern Hanover doesn't have a football team) Connersville + Union County = "Fayette-Union High School" with 1,374 kids Switzerland County + Rising Sun = "Switz-Ohio High School" with 657 kids (Rising Sun doesn't have a football team) Personally I think consolidation has a lot of benefits when it comes to the actual classroom and educational experience a student has. Small school generally means small resources. But when it comes to all the problems DT/HHF talks about I think this could be an answer. It creates schools with large enough enrollments to field football teams and gives even more kids opportunity to play football. I don't have enough knowledge about other parts of the state but I'm sure there are similar situations across the state.

Sure it's not cracking into that second six pack? 😁 Lord, I apologize for that.

There are now 26 separate lawsuits pending.

Please stop.