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Somebody has to win every year and the team who wins should not be punished. No matter what the system is, there will be a few teams that rises to the top and everyone will want that team pushed out so their own team can win. These rules have never been about fairness They are about “my team winning instead of yours” Some school are football school. Some are baseball. Some are basketball. Somebody has to win. That’s just the way life is. Having said that, A 1 class level bump is reasonable but that should be the maximum bump. What I find strange is nobody seems to care that the same 4 teams win the 6A class level every year. Being great is only allowable if you are in 6A?. Or maybe it’s because the schools complaining about the success of others dont have to worry about moving to 6A yet so “fairness” in 6 A is not a concern to them right now. (Which proves they don’t really care about fairness to begin with).

So using your "best team wins, so don't punish the winning team" logic, why don't we just go back to single class sports? Heck, let's do that for every sport including football. If your team isn't good enough to beat Warren Central football or Carmel basketball or Andrean baseball, then you just need to work harder & get better, right? Having a fraction of their enrollment is just an excuse, so work harder. Not being able to recruit from a large metro area is just an excuse, so work harder. I posted this Pennsylvania link for all of those folks who say "Success Factor is NOT FAIR to my school because we shouldn't have to play against bigger schools to win our 10th state championship". The IHSAA Success Factor is pretty minor compared to Illinois' Private school multiplier or states that don't even allow Private & Public schools to compete for the same title.

So you just let them play and whoever is the best team is crowned the State Champion? Oh my gosh, what a concept? We should allow that same concept for the other class levels.

Hard to bump a Mega School up to 7A.

More fake news, huh? This is NOT Saul Alinsky’s writing. Funny that someone so critical of an investigation that just finished cannot spend the time to fact check the things he posts.

Enjoy losing your Medicare, and paying for those next hips out of pocket.

Look, I realize a lot of you think a championship is the only thing. It's not. A few good moments on the field, one hell of a victory party, etc. But it ends there as time does not stand still. People move on... ...as I said in an earlier post, I never won a state championship in high school, yet I was cool with it and still am. I'm no longer a football player, yet I'm killing it in my career--that's the real victory! If I trampled on some of your feelings, I would like to expend my most sincere apologies, but I would also like to remind you football is a game, and games should be fun.

There is no need to include T32 in response to what I’m saying. He is his own man and can/does stand by his comments. I personally don’t agree with separating p/p schools from public schools in athletics. That’s just my personal opinion. But I also agree with the assessment that enrollment isn’t the best way to evaluate level of play for athletics in high school. Sure the success factor helps and isn’t perfect but there are a number of other factors that play into this complicated matter

😂😂😂😂...I’m dying over here. Okay okay.....so lemme get this straight... you are saying memorials success these last few years was more about coaching than athletes...even though before 2017 Hurley’s coaching record 59-52...if you go back to Lindauers sophomore year...he was 50-48. Lindauers freshman year Memorial went 2-8. The 3 years prior to that memorial had to scratch and claw to get to 3 or 4 wins on a season and then...AND THEN 😂 you wanna make offhand/between the line comments about a coach who has gone 76-12. And on that note...vs public schools he has a record of 73-6...leaving a record of 3-6 vs p/p schools. 5 of the 6 losses were to teams who made it to the state finals (3 of those 5 won the state title) I think you are undercutting the athletes you guys had....especially Lindauer and Combs...both of them were once in a generation players and to say coaching was the reason for success is a huge discredit to their abilities IMO. In regards to this whole conversation and this “get better” movement.... get better...just triple the number of players on your team. Get better...just take a historically losing team with no sectional titles to a winning tradition and a 76-12 record over 12 years. Get better...have your community take one empty stands and pack them so much that you have to bring in extra bleachers and build a larger stand section. Get better....have your student athletes commit year round to bettering themselves...during the summers for the past 5/6 years travel to Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri, Illinois, and the Indianapolis area to play against numerous top programs and champions from Michigan to Oklahoma to Alabama and is everywhere in between. Get better...try and make your schedule as tough as possible with conference restrictions...do so well that your conference welcomes the idea of your team leaving the conference and you get a conference realignment that will allow you to schedule 4A/5A/6A teams.... ”get better. Just get better. It’s as easy as that”. Telling a team to “get better” is a lot easier if you are talking about a team that isn’t giving it everything they got...and for GS, the community, the coaches (even at the youth levels), and especially the players are giving absolutely everything they got and have been for the better part of this decade. At this point, I don’t think anyone could possibly ask the Gibson Southern community and its players to work any harder or sacrifice more in the goal of getting better. “Get better” such an asinine comment

How many of those would most consider to be run particularly well?

still waiting on these so called restrictions that basketball/baseball etc will have to be put in place such as what Football has in our summer rules........ going on 7 years I think..

Why Social Democracy is Failing Europe: https://mises.org/wire/why-social-democracy-failing-europe

No he was for the guy who barely beat "none of the above".

Perfect description of the Democrat agenda.

As it should be with a true constitutional, limited government. Something you obviously abhor.

I did not post the Alinsky meme.