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Ask and ye shall receive. (I think someone said that once) https://www.ihsaa.org/Portals/0/ihsaa/documents/quick resources/Enrollments & Classifications/2022-23 2023-24 Enrollments.pdf

IHSAA (probably): If we say they are released but provide a broken weblink, will that buy us some time? (Link not working from tweet - but allegedly they are out.)

Have the results been tabulated yet? I would love to see them once posted. I think I competed in one of the first few years, so seeing 28th annual makes me feel old. And I don’t think that is possible because I am only 25. Lol

Xavier Thomas - track star and football player for Harrison in Fall 2021 has changed his Twitter bio to RHS and #PantherNation. Says he is looking forward to running track this spring and playing football in the fall for the Panthers. Rhetorical question that we all know the answer to: I wonder if he will have transfer eligibility issues?

MD's 170 or 195 did NOT play football in Fall 2021. You can double check with the football state finals program.

I saw this yesterday. One PAC coaching job closes, one opens up.

I hope it didn't come across like I was trying to go all Juwan Howard on you, I am just expressing frustration over the lack of urgency on IHSAA's part to announce classifications. As Robert said above - seems like a five minute job and they are taking months to do it.

Do they? Or is the IHSAA just incapable or unwilling to do it? Illinois determines classifications, seeding, and brackets in one weekend yet for some reason Indiana can't? If we had district play, i.e. everyone in sectional 22 has to play a round-robin schedule or only the top 4 teams from sectional 47 (I'm just using random sectional numbers) qualified, then maybe it would be the case. A computer algorithm that would take an input file with 320 schools, enrollments, and locations and would classify by size and then draw sectionals to minimize distance would be college senior-level project for a Computer Science major. But we wouldn't get Roncalli vs Cathedral or Chatard every first round game if we used a program to determine sectionals.

Would it be practical to treat like a punt that goes out of bounds? Where the R holds his point while the wing returns down the sideline with an arm extended upright? That may not be ideal however, because the R wants to make sure there is no roughing on the QB who is under duress.

Apathy From the administration on down. I have a soft spot for players who bust their backside knowing full well the chances at a multiple win season are slim. In my eyes there can be successful players and successful teams, even in an unsuccessful program.

Forgive my ignorance, but why is Conference Indiana dying? I’m not really familiar with those schools. Is that fact or just rumored?

25 years ago Barr Reeve and Loogootee played sectionals at the Hatchet House in front of SRO crowds. Same was true at Vincennes, Princeton, and Southridge. Class basketball, except for specific matchups (like BR vs LO) makes sectional crowds kind of meh. Not sure who is King per se, but sectional football crowds beat sectional basketball crowds now. This is one of the reasons I am anti-district type scheduling. I think you would see the same kind of decline in fan interest that class basketball caused.

All five of the Ev. Memorial wrestlers at Semi-State were on the football team this fall.

Under no circumstances, could their actions be considered to be that of a "Bro Coach." (Wasn't that a issue on here many moons ago?) I don't have any names to add, but as someone who has followed the state of education and athletics in Indiana, I am a little worried about the future of the coaching profession. Not trying to derail the conversation, as I recognize some of the names already mentioned and they are deserving. Just making a general observation.

@HHF Question from a fellow businessman. Why did you title this thread DT’s Dandy Dozen? If you want to promote your brand, shouldn’t you re-title it HHF’s dandy dozen? It seems akin to GM running Pontiac ads or Ford promoting Mercury. Just a thought.

I think the PAC is where VL ultimately ends up. But I could see a nice little football-only conference with VL, Linton, and some of the WIC schools. It would make for some good matchups on the gridiron but wouldn't require other sports to travel. I think that is where VL is stuck right now. I just can't imagine sending a girls volleyball team from VL to Brown County (WIC) or Tell City (PAC) on a school night seems like a good idea. But they could make for some good football as an independent.

Any success factor adjustment that puts Chatard in 3A and WeBo in 2A is a sham. As @jets pointed out, Southridge was 3A for 3 years after winning ONE title. To make WeBo 3A for one year after winning THREE 2A titles would be absurd.

Great topic for a thread. Horrible title though… but I digress Mid 2000’s the IHSAA tried a 4 year cycle for enrollment. Circa 2003-07 I think? It turned out poorly. I agree that 4 year enrollment counts are way too long. Two years works for enrollment. Four years would be the right length of time to measure program success factor and not just one outstanding class. My perfect world: 2 year enrollment cycles. 4 year rolling SF points. If that means sectionals have to be redrawn in ‘off’ years so be it. They seemed to be able to handle that when Carmel was involved last time around.

It was always going to be tough sledding as the smallest public school in the SIAC. I think the football program was better prepared for the increased competition but not all sports were, which is why the withdrawal is happening IMO. I hope the Alices are able to keep a few SIAC teams on their football schedule.

Is Roncalli allowed to determine the head coach's pay? Is it the same for Chatard, Scecina, and Ritter? The Evansville Diocese sets the stipend for head coaches and number of assistant coaches to be the same at Memorial and Mater Dei. This is true in all sports, not just football.

I think he was referring to trading out Washington for another of the PAC juggernauts like Pike Central, Tell City, Forest Park, or Tecumseh to form the new Big 8. Personally, I think Jasper leaves the SIAC right after Michigan leaves the Big Ten to join the MAC.

I saw that as well. Big news in Indianapolis and 4A football. He is returning to Cincinnati area.

All four things can be true at the same time, and it’s ok to admit. 1. NP and MTV had their best teams in a decade, which jumped their Sagarin ratings for 2021. 2. Over the last decade, Seven (inc. Jasper) of the best 10 teams in SW Indiana are in the SIAC. 3. GS won the 2021 3A state championship 4. Those blue rings will shine just as bright, no matter who the competition was in the regular season and tournament

Punishing players for mistakes is a huge part of coaching but not all. Occasionally you would need to try to correct the behavior. So I am not sure 3 series would be the proper punishment. I would go straight to permanent benching for bad tackling form until the player can do it right. Daily ‘Bull in the Ring’ sessions and 1v1 live tackling drills should do it. Once the player proves he’s tough enough, then about 15-20 rounds of Oklahoma drill and he should be ready to go.

Chicago has 31 football teams that play in a "Chicago Public League" and do not participate in the state tournament. I'm not sure exactly why. I would assume it's heavily based in socioeconomics and politics - just a guess on my part. But would IPS ever move in that direction? Create an IPS only conference to include Tech, Attucks, Shortridge, Washington? (There may be more, I just can't seem to keep up with all their changes.)