Trojan88 Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 Toughest sectional in the state is in 3A - - - should start and finish with some very strong games. Sectional champ will be the favorite to go to LOS and win State - - - let the games, and commentary, begin! West Lafayette at Hamilton Heights Guerin Catholic at Yorktown Chatard at Brebeuf North Montgomery at Crawfordsville SECTIONAL 28 3A STATE TEAM OVERALL SCHEDULE RECENT PREDICTOR Rank RANK RATING STRENGTH RANK RATING RANK RATING RANK 1 8 Indianapolis Chatard 96.72 73.52 21 96.1 9 97.78 6 2 18 West Lafayette 88.55 53.18 98 88.46 18 88.79 20 3 30 Brebeuf Jesuit 80.53 70.55 27 81.19 25 79.3 33 6 41 Guerin Catholic 75.58 69.9 29 77.21 38 74.38 45 11 91 Yorktown 60.66 40.86 165 63.32 80 58.68 97 28 146 North Montgomery 47.33 40.38 170 46.66 150 49 139 35 188 Hamilton Heights 36.49 54.81 92 36.85 190 37.39 188 59 284 Crawfordsville 10.27 47.96 129 9.77 284 10.49 285 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 How bout this scenario WL on the road to HH, and they win Guerin Catholic beats Yorktown: WL would then travel to Guerin for round 2 Chatard on road, beats Brebeuf North Mont on the road beats Crawfordsville Chatard would then travel to North Mont for round 2 WL beats Guerin and Chatard beats North Mont...... Both WL and Chatard have equal number of games played on the ROAD, bottom team owns tiebreaker, and there you have it folks, the more unique anomaly, where a team can play and win a sectional title without playing 1 home game. If that scenario plays out and WL pulls that off, then I say give them the ring and don't worry about playing the rest of the string out. Of course that is just 1 scenarios and one that may not even come to fruition. 2 Quote
TheWaterBoii Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: How bout this scenario WL on the road to HH, and they win Guerin Catholic beats Yorktown: WL would then travel to Guerin for round 2 Chatard on road, beats Brebeuf North Mont on the road beats Crawfordsville Chatard would then travel to North Mont for round 2 WL beats Guerin and Chatard beats North Mont...... Both WL and Chatard have equal number of games played on the ROAD, bottom team owns tiebreaker, and there you have it folks, the more unique anomaly, where a team can play and win a sectional title without playing 1 home game. If that scenario plays out and WL pulls that off, then I say give them the ring and don't worry about playing the rest of the string out. Of course that is just 1 scenarios and one that may not even come to fruition. WELL WE ALL KNOW IF THAT HAPPENS THE CHAMPIONSHIP OF SECTIONAL 28 AUTOMATICALLY DEFAULTS TO ROSS-ADE!!! Edited October 14, 2019 by TheWaterBoii Quote
Guest DT Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 The proponents of seeding would have us watch a 1 vs 8 opening round game between Chatard and Crawfordsville. Chatard by 75? Quote
Footballking16 Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DT said: The proponents of seeding would have us watch a 1 vs 8 opening round game between Chatard and Crawfordsville. Chatard by 75? The proponents of seeding AND a qualifying format would likely get to watch a Chatard/Yorktown and Guerin/Brebeuf first round match-up and West Lafayette (and North Mont) would likely be in a completely different bracket and would get to face the winner of this group at the semi-state or state finals where it should rightfully take place. Crawfordsville wouldn't even be in the picture. Things to ponder.... Edited October 14, 2019 by Footballking16 2 Quote
Guest DT Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: The proponents of seeding AND a qualifying format would get to watch a Chatard/Yorktown and Guerin/Brebeuf first round match-up and West Lafayette would likely be in a completely different bracket and would get to face the winner of this group at the semi-state or state finals where it should rightfully take place. Things to ponder.... Im speaking to those who are pushing only for seeding. Its a bad idea. Quote
Footballking16 Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DT said: Im speaking to those who are pushing only for seeding. Its a bad idea. Seeding would lead to a qualification system. The IHSAA under the all-in format can justify first round blowouts because of the "luck of the draw". They no longer could if sectionals were seeded appropriately. I've done this exercise the last 3 or 4 years and and you need but 1 or 2 fingers to count the number of upsets that occur where a bottom half rated Sagarin team beats a top half Sagarin team. This theory where every team should be included because "every team starts 0-0 with new life come week 10 has a chance" simply doesn't exist. Edited October 14, 2019 by Footballking16 Quote
Footballking16 Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 But back to the discussion, I think Chatard has the definite advantage in this one. They have a virtual bye round 2 (assuming they beat Brebeuf a second time) while West Lafayette is going to likely face a very solid Guerin team. 2 Quote
Trojan88 Posted October 14, 2019 Author Posted October 14, 2019 Come on Footballking - take your laser like focus on this topic back to the other sections within this forum where you have posted many times and where your opinion is loud and clear - thank you 1 1 Quote
BCstate Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said: How bout this scenario WL on the road to HH, and they win Guerin Catholic beats Yorktown: WL would then travel to Guerin for round 2 Chatard on road, beats Brebeuf North Mont on the road beats Crawfordsville Chatard would then travel to North Mont for round 2 WL beats Guerin and Chatard beats North Mont...... Both WL and Chatard have equal number of games played on the ROAD, bottom team owns tiebreaker, and there you have it folks, the more unique anomaly, where a team can play and win a sectional title without playing 1 home game. If that scenario plays out and WL pulls that off, then I say give them the ring and don't worry about playing the rest of the string out. Of course that is just 1 scenarios and one that may not even come to fruition. Fairly likely. 1 Quote
gonzoron Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Trojan88 said: Toughest sectional in the state is in 3A - - - should start and finish with some very strong games. Sectional champ will be the favorite to go to LOS and win State - - - let the games, and commentary, begin! West Lafayette at Hamilton Heights Guerin Catholic at Yorktown Chatard at Brebeuf North Montgomery at Crawfordsville SECTIONAL 28 3A STATE TEAM OVERALL SCHEDULE RECENT PREDICTOR Rank RANK RATING STRENGTH RANK RATING RANK RATING RANK 1 8 Indianapolis Chatard 96.72 73.52 21 96.1 9 97.78 6 2 18 West Lafayette 88.55 53.18 98 88.46 18 88.79 20 3 30 Brebeuf Jesuit 80.53 70.55 27 81.19 25 79.3 33 6 41 Guerin Catholic 75.58 69.9 29 77.21 38 74.38 45 11 91 Yorktown 60.66 40.86 165 63.32 80 58.68 97 28 146 North Montgomery 47.33 40.38 170 46.66 150 49 139 35 188 Hamilton Heights 36.49 54.81 92 36.85 190 37.39 188 59 284 Crawfordsville 10.27 47.96 129 9.77 284 10.49 285 I'm throwin' in my cards now. I'm out. 1 Quote
gonzoron Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 38 minutes ago, gonzoron said: I'm throwin' in my cards now. I'm out. I'm hoping the Huskies secret weapon they've been working on in practice pans out, though. A 6'5, 295 lb running back. 1 2 Quote
Trojan88 Posted October 14, 2019 Author Posted October 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, gonzoron said: I'm hoping the Huskies secret weapon they've been working on in practice pans out, though. A 6'5, 295 lb running back. Holy smokes - that is a load to bring down! Quote
Footballking16 Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, gonzoron said: I'm hoping the Huskies secret weapon they've been working on in practice pans out, though. A 6'5, 295 lb running back. Ya but does he have wings as well? 1 Quote
gonzoron Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Trojan88 said: Holy smokes - that is a load to bring down! Lol, the 1st team defense has some problems tackling him. About 20 yards a pop in practice. I don't know if they're just joking around or actually ever going to try it in a game. May find out tonight in the JV game at Lewis Cass. He's a Freshman. 2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: Ya but does he have wings as well? Absolutely not hahahaha Quote
JustRules Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Footballking16 said: Seeding would lead to a qualification system. The IHSAA under the all-in format can justify first round blowouts because of the "luck of the draw". They no longer could if sectionals were seeded appropriately. I've done this exercise the last 3 or 4 years and and you need but 1 or 2 fingers to count the number of upsets that occur where a bottom half rated Sagarin team beats a top half Sagarin team. This theory where every team should be included because "every team starts 0-0 with new life come week 10 has a chance" simply doesn't exist. I think one of the reasons many of the coaches and administrators support the unseeded all-in tournament is the chance you'll draw another weak team in the first round if you are having a bad season. There are a handful of matchups early in the first round where both teams have 2 or fewer wins after 8 weeks. They are ecstatic because now they have a chance for a tournament win. But is that really a great accomplishment? One of them will advance while someone from Brebeuf or Chatard or Cass or Pioneer will be turning in their gear. It's one thing if you get upset in the first round and have to go through that. The format does ultimately crown a champion, but the means to get there is very flawed in many ways. 1 Quote
Guest DT Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 50 minutes ago, gonzoron said: Lol, the 1st team defense has some problems tackling him. About 20 yards a pop in practice. I don't know if they're just joking around or actually ever going to try it in a game. May find out tonight in the JV game at Lewis Cass. He's a Freshman. Absolutely not hahahaha You might be hearing from the HC for giving away his top secret inside trick plays. Not good. Quote
BTF Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 5 hours ago, DT said: Im speaking to those who are pushing only for seeding. Its a bad idea. Get better or get used to it (speaking of the 75-0 blowout). The game of life is no different. The football programs that work the hardest win the trophies. The kids with the best grades go to the best schools and get the best jobs. The harder you work in the in the real world, the more likely you will crush your competition. Getting whipped 75-0 is a painful lesson, but it IS a lesson. Don't like it? Feel sorry for the kids? Easy solution. Ten game season. Half the teams make it. Seed the tournament. The regular season should have playoff implications. The undefeated team shouldn't have to travel to winless team..............other states don't understand it, can't believe it, and laugh at it. 1 1 Quote
superjay Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 Hope Chatard is a victim of home cookin at North Montgomery. Ultimately, the Trojans will win, but the Chargers will not be intimidated. 50+ pass attempts, some onside kicks, press man coverage, bring 7 every play. Should be a fun one. North is the Football version of Loyola Marymount basketball 1988. Quote
BCstate Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, superjay said: Hope Chatard is a victim of home cookin at North Montgomery. Ultimately, the Trojans will win, but the Chargers will not be intimidated. 50+ pass attempts, some onside kicks, press man coverage, bring 7 every play. Should be a fun one. North is the Football version of Loyola Marymount basketball 1988. You should just be happy your admin kept Tri West out of Chatard and WL sectional so you have a chance at winning one. 1 Quote
Impartial_Observer Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, superjay said: Hope Chatard is a victim of home cookin at North Montgomery. Ultimately, the Trojans will win, but the Chargers will not be intimidated. 50+ pass attempts, some onside kicks, press man coverage, bring 7 every play. Should be a fun one. North is the Football version of Loyola Marymount basketball 1988. Officials are assigned in the tournament. Unless of course the IHSAA is on on the "home cookin" conspiracy. Quote
Gipper Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 I like how this Sectional matches up and glad to hear hardly anybody was clamoring for more of that seeded crap.... Quote
itiswhatitis Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 14 hours ago, BTF said: Get better or get used to it (speaking of the 75-0 blowout). The game of life is no different. The football programs that work the hardest win the trophies. The kids with the best grades go to the best schools and get the best jobs. The harder you work in the in the real world, the more likely you will crush your competition. Getting whipped 75-0 is a painful lesson, but it IS a lesson. Don't like it? Feel sorry for the kids? Easy solution. Ten game season. Half the teams make it. Seed the tournament. The regular season should have playoff implications. The undefeated team shouldn't have to travel to winless team..............other states don't understand it, can't believe it, and laugh at it. And have the sectional title game played at a neutral site while you're at it. Also play the regional and semi-state games at neutral sites as well. They do in Ohio and it works out well. Quote
Trojan88 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Posted October 15, 2019 53 minutes ago, itiswhatitis said: And have the sectional title game played at a neutral site while you're at it. Also play the regional and semi-state games at neutral sites as well. They do in Ohio and it works out well. Since this is Indiana and the format is locked and loaded for this year... Sectional 28 will have several great games. Personally, the first game for Chatard should be one of the best opening games in the state next. The first game of the season between these two really doesn't matter as both teams are much more developed and playing at a higher level. Too bad that the top 3A teams who could win state are going to winnow down to just one sole survivor. I believe the sectional 28 winner will win state 2 Quote
superjay Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 7 hours ago, BCstate said: You should just be happy your admin kept Tri West out of Chatard and WL sectional so you have a chance at winning one. Just get better! Or maybe they needed to get Danville out of Chatards sectional. 1 1 Quote
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