Suspended or cancelled season

[oldunclemark]

2 hours ago, Playmaker said:

Pneumonia is very contagious! And is deadly for older people and younger people! It’s time to open the schools up and let the kids play! 
if you don’t want to go to a game don’t! You don’t want your kid to go to school or play then don’t! But as a whole it’s time to move on!

It doesn't matter what you or I want. It doesn't matter what time it is. 

Once school is open and a kid gets sick and there is a lawsuit, who is liable.?   It wont be you or me. Who will pay for the sick kids?  It wont be you or me. 

If no one accepts liability for what happens to students, coaches, players and fans, there wont be school or games. That's just the way it is.

Parents have to waive all legal rights to whatever happens or school districts have to be legally liable for kids getting the virus no matter what it does to them. 

[SteelCurtain88]

Don’t agree if this is the decision, but I unfortunately think the season gets canceled.   Do not want to see another damn pandemic like this again!  Throw money into science and research to prevent crap like this from happening.

[cw13]

unfortunately........schools are the last stop in the road. From the top down nobody has assumed responsibility outside of a few strong willed governors. Right now the end of the road falls on schools. I agree this is the place were liability will start and sadly it will fall on the shoulders of the school administrators and the teachers. And if it boils down to signing waivers......................I wouldn't sign one!

[Coach Nowlin]

how are you going to convince the baseball playing kids, families and schools to miss 2 straight years of their season?   Not going to happen, just my opinion 

[wabashalwaysfights]

23 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

how are you going to convince the baseball playing kids, families and schools to miss 2 straight years of their season?   Not going to happen, just my opinion 

This is correct and also another reason that I'm glad that all indications are that Indiana won't be pushing football to the spring. 

Ultimately I'm guessing that having student-athletes, coaches, etc. sign waiver forms is going to be a no brainer, if it isn't already, and will likely be even more widespread by the end of the month.

[Titan32]

2 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

It doesn't matter what you or I want. It doesn't matter what time it is. 

Once school is open and a kid gets sick and there is a lawsuit, who is liable.?   It wont be you or me. Who will pay for the sick kids?  It wont be you or me. 

If no one accepts liability for what happens to students, coaches, players and fans, there wont be school or games. That's just the way it is.

Parents have to waive all legal rights to whatever happens or school districts have to be legally liable for kids getting the virus no matter what it does to them. 

So are they suing for flu?

[Guest]

38 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

So are they suing for flu?

Thank you?

[Howe]

I said this three months ago and I will say it again. Even if the coronavirus is here to stay society will return to normal and people will accept the risks and consequences. It is inevitable and common sense.

All this fuss will considerably decrease after November. 

[dazed and confused]

12 hours ago, Howe said:

Source Center for Disease Control

CDC ? Isnt that the source you have discredited and now use their data ?  Come on man !

[dazed and confused]

17 hours ago, EVVHSFOOTBALL said:

Here's an interesting fact to consider. According to Dr. Scott Atlas of the Hoover Institute. Every developed country in the world except the US has opened their schools many without social distancing or masks. This is because the facts are children rarely contract the disease and rarely transmit the disease. Check him out if you doubt this.  Real life experience trumps all the studies to the contrary.

Fact ?  This just came out.... https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/07/18/young-people-most-likely-to-spread-coronavirus-at-home-large-study-finds/amp/

[Howe]

1 hour ago, dazed and confused said:

CDC ? Isnt that the source you have discredited and now use their data ?  Come on man !

The statistics for Flu deaths among school age children is consistent with previous Flu seasons. The Covid-19 deaths are most likely grossly inflated which is consistent with the overall Covid-19 deaths in America. Big pharmaceutical is the most powerful lobby in Washington DC outspending big oil and gas 2 to 1.

[cw13]

Spring will probably be the wise choice. My one fear is proceed in the fall, get delays and cancellations of games due to the virus. Could have some teams playing a full schedule and others an abbreviated number of games. Get to the playoffs, it could possibly be a team due to quarantines going right to the championship game. And if we start in the fall and get cancelled there will be no spring season. The spring gives us a better chance to get a grip on the virus thru treatments, and could almost guarantee a full season. The fall, a full season........is doubtful

[dazed and confused]

20 minutes ago, Howe said:

The statistics for Flu deaths among school age children is consistent with previous Flu seasons. The Covid-19 deaths are most likely grossly inflated which is consistent with the overall Covid-19 deaths in America. Big pharmaceutical is the most powerful lobby in Washington DC outspending big oil and gas 2 to 1.

and where did you get your stats ? the CDC ?

... and your "most likely" comment.... hilarious !  sounds like you're not sure.

 

[Howe]

I have a brother and a sister who are teachers. They said online courses take 3-4 hours per day. It must be sweet to stay home for 3 months and get paid in full to work 15-20 hours per week. I work in a manufacturing plant with over 1,000 employees. Our plant never shut down. We have had five people test positive for the coronavirus. The company implemented a mandatory mask policy two months ago. Approximately 800-900 union workers refuse to wear a mask. We have had no other workers test positive for the coronavirus. No one has died from the coronavirus or even been hospitalized. We never had any problems purchasing surgical masks throughout the outbreak.

The mainstream media keeps hammering everyone with the panic porn. My work schedule has remained business as usual throughout the outbreak. Real world experience is not consistent with all the hysteria.

[dazed and confused]

4 minutes ago, Howe said:

I have a brother and a sister who are teachers. They said online courses take 3-4 hours per day. It must be sweet to stay home for 3 months and get paid in full to work 15-20 hours per week. I work in a manufacturing plant with over 1,000 employees. Our plant never shut down. We have had five people test positive for the coronavirus. The company implemented a mandatory mask policy two months ago. Approximately 800-900 union workers refuse to wear a mask. We have had no other workers test positive for the coronavirus. No one has died from the coronavirus or even been hospitalized. We never had any problems purchasing surgical masks throughout the outbreak.

The mainstream media keeps hammering everyone with the panic porn. My work schedule has remained business as usual throughout the outbreak. Real world experience is not consistent with all the hysteria.

yeah....we've heard that several times and i'm glad for your factory but you avoid my question .... AGAIN !

[gonzoron]

29 minutes ago, Howe said:

Real world experience is not consistent with all the hysteria.

Then why is everyone bellyaching? They should just stfu. Let's start here.

[foxbat]

1 hour ago, Howe said:

I have a brother and a sister who are teachers. They said online courses take 3-4 hours per day. 

They're either pulling your leg or they aren't doing it right.  Delivery may differ on time, but the balance is carried in effective support, contact, and admin.

[Titan32]

1 hour ago, Howe said:

I have a brother and a sister who are teachers. They said online courses take 3-4 hours per day. It must be sweet to stay home for 3 months and get paid in full to work 15-20 hours per week. I work in a manufacturing plant with over 1,000 employees. Our plant never shut down. We have had five people test positive for the coronavirus. The company implemented a mandatory mask policy two months ago. Approximately 800-900 union workers refuse to wear a mask. We have had no other workers test positive for the coronavirus. No one has died from the coronavirus or even been hospitalized. We never had any problems purchasing surgical masks throughout the outbreak.

The mainstream media keeps hammering everyone with the panic porn. My work schedule has remained business as usual throughout the outbreak. Real world experience is not consistent with all the hysteria.

Similar situation for Toyota with 7,000 employees in Princeton Indiana...but they do wear masks.

[Fan90]

When I read the MULTIPLE THREADS on this topic, I find a common theme..articles and studies that say its safe because kids do not contract or spread Covid.  I also read how how we should get back to normal and deal with this...i don't know what to believe and still do not have a clear cut opinion on how I feel either way...but the 1 FACT I have seen is this; multiple programs have been suspended or paused because of HIGH SCHOOL KIDS testing positive.  We won't know anything concrete until we get kids back into the schools and see what happens.  None of us know the answer..

[cw13]

when schools get back in sessions and the group levels increase.......it only stands to get worse.....right now we have cases and compared to school enrollments sport teams are just small groups

[dazed and confused]

1 hour ago, gonzoron said:

Then why is everyone bellyaching? They should just stfu. Let's start here.

 

[cw13]

IPS & Athletics

With the Board’s decision to delay the start of school, all athletics programming in the district will also be put on hold immediately. The current plan is for our high school athletics programming to return on August 17 with the return of school. More information to come.

[DanteEstonia]

2 hours ago, Howe said:

I work in a manufacturing plant with over 1,000 employees. Our plant never shut down. We have had five people test positive for the coronavirus. The company implemented a mandatory mask policy two months ago. Approximately 800-900 union workers refuse to wear a mask. We have had no other workers test positive for the coronavirus. No one has died from the coronavirus or even been hospitalized. We never had any problems purchasing surgical masks throughout the outbreak.

Cool story, bro. 

[Howe]

 

[dazed and confused]

16 minutes ago, Howe said:

 

cant dispute the 10 and under kids as pointed out in the article I provided earlier https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/07/18/young-people-most-likely-to-spread-coronavirus-at-home-large-study-finds/amp/ its the 10 to 19 years old that are concerning. Maybe you didn't catch that....I copied and pasted it for you.... see below

The study found that young people, between the ages of 10 to 19, were not often the first in their household to show symptoms—but when they were, 18.6% of their contacts contracted the disease, which is more than any other age group.

By contrast, children 9 years old and younger were the least likely group to spread coronavirus in their household, with 5.3% of their contacts—which represents three people—testing positive.