hhpatriot04 Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 What's the shortest, four-quarter game that you have been to this year (by real time)? Did the Mercy Rule come into play or just two running teams with long drives? Do you feel like you should pay less for a short game or do you see it as getting home sooner? Quote
WWFan Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 I think the WW/Crawford County game was like 1 hr 45 min. Running clock 2nd half. I dont care to pay because that money is for the school. Hell I once walked in rain....paid for ticket and food...then went back to car to watch the game from the parking lot. What's $20 to help the school? I'll never understand why some want to line up on roads to watch but avoid paying. 8 Quote
nmsu_aggie Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, WWFan said: I think the WW/Crawford County game was like 1 hr 45 min. Running clock 2nd half. I dont care to pay because that money is for the school. Hell I once walked in rain....paid for ticket and food...then went back to car to watch the game from the parking lot. What's $20 to help the school? I'll never understand why some want to line up on roads to watch but avoid paying. Can’t agree more... I will never understand people that don’t enjoy HS sports. Even with the recent rise in price of tickets in our area, it is STILL one of the best entertainment values anywhere. 2 1 Quote
globemstr3 Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, WWFan said: I think the WW/Crawford County game was like 1 hr 45 min. Running clock 2nd half. I dont care to pay because that money is for the school. Hell I once walked in rain....paid for ticket and food...then went back to car to watch the game from the parking lot. What's $20 to help the school? I'll never understand why some want to line up on roads to watch but avoid paying. There is something to be said about enjoying adult beverages inside the fence lines. LOL Quote
WWFan Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, globemstr3 said: There is something to be said about enjoying adult beverages inside the fence lines. LOL Haha. Well that I can see. But buy a ticket....grab a burger...and then head back. At least support the team that's providing you Friday night entertainment. Could be forced to drink with in laws!! 😳 2 Quote
globemstr3 Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, WWFan said: Haha. Well that I can see. But buy a ticket....grab a burger...and then head back. At least support the team that's providing you Friday night entertainment. Could be forced to drink with in laws!! 😳 I agree. At least buy a ticket. Im only speaking for Linton. As there is a neighborhood that has open view to the game. Guys and gals are cooking on site and that's just a win win for them. But Yes buy a ticket to enjoy that event. 2 Quote
IndianaWrestlingGuy1 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 Cathedral - Jeffersonville was running clock in the 1st quarter, I believe. If not, it was first possession of Q2. Quote
dmizers3 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy1 said: Cathedral - Jeffersonville was running clock in the 1st quarter, I believe. If not, it was first possession of Q2. It should not have. I'm pretty sure the rule states 35 point difference in the 2nd half. 1 Quote
IndianaWrestlingGuy1 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 Could be wrong but it was 35-0 late in the 1st or start of 2nd. I guess if that is the rule, this topic is void. I’m sure there are many, many teams w 35 point halftime leads. Quote
Impartial_Observer Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 22 hours ago, hhpatriot04 said: What's the shortest, four-quarter game that you have been to this year (by real time)? Did the Mercy Rule come into play or just two running teams with long drives? Do you feel like you should pay less for a short game or do you see it as getting home sooner? Our mercy rule games have ended up being about the same real time as normal games. Since the clock doesn’t run until the second half. Of the three we’ve had, one first half was 1:40, followed by a 20 minute half and 26 minute second half. Second game started late, waited on visitors to arrive. 1:20 to play first half, a 20 minute halftime that turned into nearly 30 minutes, took about 30 minutes to play the second half with two scores. Last one similar situation, only we had a clock operator that apparently couldn’t follow instructions. I’m still icing my shoulder. As a crew our games average about 2:12 in real time. We had one this year that was 3:10......two team that had QB’s who could sling it, just not blessed with players that could catch it. Quote
Olympian06 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 2 hours ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy1 said: Cathedral - Jeffersonville was running clock in the 1st quarter, I believe. If not, it was first possession of Q2. That crew was wrong if that’s the case. I believe the rule is 35 points and has to be 2nd half. 1 Quote
DaveMosbey Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 Not sure what game was shortest for Heritage Hills we have had running clocks in 6 of 7 games the Jasper game being the only one without a running clock. We had 2 games where the running clock started at halftime Mount Vernon and Pike Central, 2 started in middle of 3rd quarter Tell City and North Posey and 2 started late 4th quarter Gibson Southern and Southridge. My guess would be Mount Vernon because neither team scored or used a timeout in the 2nd half. Quote
JustRules Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 Our running clock games (3 of 7) have been 1:48, 1:51, and 2:10 (all running at halftime or early in 3rd quarter). Our average for the season is 2:16. The non-running clock games average 2:30. We had a 2:55 with a lot of scoring and passing and penalties as well as several hydration/cramping time outs. I've talked to crews who have had a running clock at some point in every game. Quote
PHJIrish Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 No, the running clock only started in the 2nd half of the Cathedral/Jeffersonville game. It was the quickest 2nd half you can even imagine! The clock should have been running after the first quarter but the rule states it's only in the 2nd half. Quote
globemstr3 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 Im gonna record the time cause I think the next Linton game might beat all of this. That is of course if we play our starters. I doubt Coach Ollie would do that unless its a qtr thing with JV Quote
Guest DT Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 The increase in the use of the running clock is another indication that competitive balance is severely out of alignment and contraction should be considered as the ultimate option for some schools. Its the right thing to do in many cases. Quote
JustRules Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, DT said: The increase in the use of the running clock is another indication that competitive balance is severely out of alignment and contraction should be considered as the ultimate option for some schools. Its the right thing to do in many cases. Most states have been using a mercy rule for many years. It's an indication we are finally in line with the rest of the country. 1 Quote
Daniel_Bragg Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, DT said: The increase in the use of the running clock is another indication that competitive balance is severely out of alignment and contraction should be considered as the ultimate option for some schools. Its the right thing to do in many cases. Why are there so many large school people trying to do away with football in the small schools on here? Seriously. So because schools only have 300 students, they shouldn't be allowed to play football? How dumb of a mindset is that? Quote
Guest DT Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Daniel_Bragg said: Why are there so many large school people trying to do away with football in the small schools on here? Seriously. So because schools only have 300 students, they shouldn't be allowed to play football? How dumb of a mindset is that? Its not just a small school issue Quote
Guest DT Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Gipper said: Get over it. This isn’t up to you. No its not. But the GID Forum members certainly have a voice when it comes to major issues which impact-affect the game of high school football. This forum is widely read by administrators, coaches, IHSAA members and other community leaders who make decisions that impact the game. Some of us use this forum as a lobbying tool to influence those decisions. Our greatest impact was felt during The Multiplier Debate, which ultimately was adopted by the IHSAA in the watered down format known as the Success Factor. It took a decade for the Success Factor to move from radical idea to actual policy. Contraction is a different issue, and potentially of even greater import as it deals with multiple issues including school finances, changing demographic and socio economic trends and player safety. I would be very concerned as a parent to send my South Newton teenager out to the practice field for a team that is 1-36 in the past 4 seasons and is outscored by nearly 60 points per game weekly. A program that barely has enough live bodies to conduct a decent practice. A program that cannot develop young players at lower levels because participation is at all time lows. These are real issues that are all trending in the wrong direction. As I have stated before many times, schools are not obligated to offer football on the extra curricular menu. Football consumes huge amounts of resources. Admins have an obligation to objectively evaluate their respective programs and determine if moving forward, despite these horrific results, is a wise investment for the school and a worthwhile experience for the student athlete. 1A 41 E-MAIL CORRECTIONS MAP TO SCHOOL 0-7 TOURNAMENT HISTORY SOUTH NEWTON REBELS Coach: Brad Bevis, 1-36 in 4th year at school DATE OPPONENT CENTRAL TIME OA 6.9, DA 54.7 Aug. 23 North Newton 2A © L 0 58 Aug. 30 at West Central 1A © L 14 68 Sep. 6 Frontier 1A © L 0 38 Sep. 13 Carroll (Flora) 1A L 14 65 Sep. 20 at Tri-County 1A © L 20 42 Sep. 27 at Covington 1A L 0 52 Oct. 4 North White 1A © L 0 60 Oct. 11 at Casey-Westfield (Ill.) 7:00 pm Oct. 18 at Lake Station 1A 7:00 pm ©MIDWEST CONFERENCE GAME Edited October 7, 2019 by DT Quote
Impartial_Observer Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 9 hours ago, DT said: No its not. But the GID Forum members certainly have a voice when it comes to major issues which impact-affect the game of high school football. This forum is widely read by administrators, coaches, IHSAA members and other community leaders who make decisions that impact the game. Some of us use this forum as a lobbying tool to influence those decisions. Our greatest impact was felt during The Multiplier Debate, which ultimately was adopted by the IHSAA in the watered down format known as the Success Factor. It took a decade for the Success Factor to move from radical idea to actual policy. Contraction is a different issue, and potentially of even greater import as it deals with multiple issues including school finances, changing demographic and socio economic trends and player safety. I would be very concerned as a parent to send my South Newton teenager out to the practice field for a team that is 1-36 in the past 4 seasons and is outscored by nearly 60 points per game weekly. A program that barely has enough live bodies to conduct a decent practice. A program that cannot develop young players at lower levels because participation is at all time lows. These are real issues that are all trending in the wrong direction. As I have stated before many times, schools are not obligated to offer football on the extra curricular menu. Football consumes huge amounts of resources. Admins have an obligation to objectively evaluate their respective programs and determine if moving forward, despite these horrific results, is a wise investment for the school and a worthwhile experience for the student athlete. 1A 41 E-MAIL CORRECTIONS MAP TO SCHOOL 0-7 TOURNAMENT HISTORY SOUTH NEWTON REBELS Coach: Brad Bevis, 1-36 in 4th year at school DATE OPPONENT CENTRAL TIME OA 6.9, DA 54.7 Aug. 23 North Newton 2A © L 0 58 Aug. 30 at West Central 1A © L 14 68 Sep. 6 Frontier 1A © L 0 38 Sep. 13 Carroll (Flora) 1A L 14 65 Sep. 20 at Tri-County 1A © L 20 42 Sep. 27 at Covington 1A L 0 52 Oct. 4 North White 1A © L 0 60 Oct. 11 at Casey-Westfield (Ill.) 7:00 pm Oct. 18 at Lake Station 1A 7:00 pm ©MIDWEST CONFERENCE GAME Laughable. Are there some movers and shakers who read, probably, but to say we have a voice is laughable. 1 Quote
Guest DT Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said: Laughable. Are there some movers and shakers who read, probably, but to say we have a voice is laughable. I disagree The Multiplier discussion on this forum from 2003-2007 was a lobbying tool that brought a great deal of attention to the issue, as both sides of the debate were represented. Do we influence policy? Debateable Do we shed light on critical issues impacting the game? Definitely. Moreso then than now, as The Forum is not nearly as widely read as it used to be. Edited October 7, 2019 by DT Quote
Impartial_Observer Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, DT said: I disagree The Multiplier discussion on this forum from 2003-2007 was a lobbying tool that brought a great deal of attention to the issue, as both sides of the debate were represented. Do we influence policy? Debateable Do we shed light on critical issues impacting the game? Definitely. Moreso then than now, as The Forum is not nearly as widely read as it used to be. The multiplier issue was on the IFCA's mind long before this forum existed. The challenge was getting a formula you could get the IFCA to agree on. Quote
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