2A State Tournament: OFFICIAL Thread

[Titan32]

7 minutes ago, jets said:

One thing that gets often overlooked at this point is just the uniqueness of Brownstown's offense (and the level at which they can run it). There is absolutely NO WAY to replicate it in practice, and generally takes AT LEAST a few series to get your barring's about you on defense...and by that time, it could be 14-0, maybe 21-0. 

Give me the Braves and Coach May finally gets his trip to the State Finals. 

Completely agree with this statement.....now Jets...go frame this.  LOL

[TigerFan20]

47 minutes ago, jets said:

One thing that gets often overlooked at this point is just the uniqueness of Brownstown's offense (and the level at which they can run it). There is absolutely NO WAY to replicate it in practice, and generally takes AT LEAST a few series to get your barring's about you on defense...and by that time, it could be 14-0, maybe 21-0. 

Give me the Braves and Coach May finally gets his trip to the State Finals. 

Agreed, Memorial’s 2016 regional game was pretty rough against them at their place. I think we were down 23-0 at the half and we struggled to contain their offense the entire game. I think we lost by like 28 or something, had a late touchdown at the end to avoid a shutout.

[npatman]

28 minutes ago, TigerFan20 said:

Agreed, Memorial’s 2016 regional game was pretty rough against them at their place. I think we were down 23-0 at the half and we struggled to contain their offense the entire game. I think we lost by like 28 or something, had a late touchdown at the end to avoid a shutout.

I remember that game well!

[jets]

8 hours ago, TigerFan20 said:

Agreed, Memorial’s 2016 regional game was pretty rough against them at their place. I think we were down 23-0 at the half and we struggled to contain their offense the entire game. I think we lost by like 28 or something, had a late touchdown at the end to avoid a shutout.

What's fascinating to me is how a school goes from an enrollment count of 571 in 2016, to 9 years later being in the 460 range?? School enrollments most certainly can drop, but you typically don't see that large of a drop in that time span (especially at a successful school like Brownstown) without other mitigating factors?? 

[BtownBraves]

Unrelated but Brownstown’s 2016 semi state game at Lawrenceburg, IMO, goes down as one of the best football games I’ve ever watched, regardless of skill level. What a game that was.

[BtownBraves]

56 minutes ago, jets said:

What's fascinating to me is how a school goes from an enrollment count of 571 in 2016, to 9 years later being in the 460 range?? School enrollments most certainly can drop, but you typically don't see that large of a drop in that time span (especially at a successful school like Brownstown) without other mitigating factors?? 

Speaking of declining enrollment— There is a Salem bus and a Seymour bus that come to Vallonia (small town just south of Brownstown on 135) every morning to pick kids up. Not sure how many, but I do see them down in town there.

[TigerFan20]

10 hours ago, npatman said:

I remember that game well!

I think you guys ended up having like 400 rushing yards that night, I was pretty amazed when I saw the offensive formations. Your defense was pretty stout too, Memorial couldn’t run the ball at all. But the uniqueness of the offense was pretty impressive because who had the ball in the backfield lol!

[Coach Nowlin]

2 hours ago, jets said:

What's fascinating to me is how a school goes from an enrollment count of 571 in 2016, to 9 years later being in the 460 range?? School enrollments most certainly can drop, but you typically don't see that large of a drop in that time span (especially at a successful school like Brownstown) without other mitigating factors?? 

We have lost over 100 plus kids since our 2014 state year:  We are closer to 1a then 3a these days. 

Once you take out Transient/hispanic population, IEP students, we probably have a pool of about 330 or so students for athletics, obviously not all are boys and not all play sports, so you go from school of 530+ and roster of 50ish to school availability of under 350.    Our 8th grade girls could only find 3 to play hoops, our Sophomore class came over with 84 TOTAL bodies, of which under 40 were Boys, and freshman year we had 6 play, now down to 3 this year.   Factors:  Division 2 college St. Joe has now been closed almost 10 years,  more families choosing full on FFA lives, or just flat out leaving public school to go online so they don't have to take state accountability tests and they can have theirs in the farms.   Just a couple of examples here in our school.   

[jets]

8 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

We have lost over 100 plus kids since our 2014 state year:  We are closer to 1a then 3a these days. 

Once you take out Transient/hispanic population, IEP students, we probably have a pool of about 330 or so students for athletics, obviously not all are boys and not all play sports, so you go from school of 530+ and roster of 50ish to school availability of under 350.    Our 8th grade girls could only find 3 to play hoops, our Sophomore class came over with 84 TOTAL bodies, of which under 40 were Boys, and freshman year we had 6 play, now down to 3 this year.   Factors:  Division 2 college St. Joe has now been closed almost 10 years,  more families choosing full on FFA lives, or just flat out leaving public school to go online so they don't have to take state accountability tests and they can have theirs in the farms.   Just a couple of examples here in our school.   

Lower enrollment numbers typically corresponds with a business in town either closing/leaving. (In your case- a local college). Lower enrollment (for a public school at least) also means less State funding, so has there also been staff cuts at your school?? That would be the hard/sad reality of that situation I would imagine. 

[Basementbias]

27 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

We have lost over 100 plus kids since our 2014 state year:  We are closer to 1a then 3a these days. 

Once you take out Transient/hispanic population, IEP students, we probably have a pool of about 330 or so students for athletics, obviously not all are boys and not all play sports, so you go from school of 530+ and roster of 50ish to school availability of under 350.    Our 8th grade girls could only find 3 to play hoops, our Sophomore class came over with 84 TOTAL bodies, of which under 40 were Boys, and freshman year we had 6 play, now down to 3 this year.   Factors:  Division 2 college St. Joe has now been closed almost 10 years,  more families choosing full on FFA lives, or just flat out leaving public school to go online so they don't have to take state accountability tests and they can have theirs in the farms.   Just a couple of examples here in our school.   

Have a feeling this could be a new trend that will emerge in Adams County. Heard at least one family & kids wanting to go online. I'm sure a few more would follow. I know one kid in my stepson's grade seems to be dual enrolled. Kid started online before school started & school advised against the online. Kid is supposedly going to school and then doing online/homeschooling program after school. Sounds like the family is really wanting to transition to majority online and then taking 1 class at the school (Tebow method) for athletics participation. 

[Basementbias]

5 minutes ago, Basementbias said:

Have a feeling this could be a new trend that will emerge in Adams County. Heard at least one family & kids wanting to go online. I'm sure a few more would follow. I know one kid in my stepson's grade seems to be dual enrolled. Kid started online before school started & school advised against the online. Kid is supposedly going to school and then doing online/homeschooling program after school. Sounds like the family is really wanting to transition to majority online and then taking 1 class at the school (Tebow method) for athletics participation. 

Should say pushing the school to push the state for Tebow rule. 

[Impartial_Observer]

11 hours ago, BtownBraves said:

Speaking of declining enrollment— There is a Salem bus and a Seymour bus that come to Vallonia (small town just south of Brownstown on 135) every morning to pick kids up. Not sure how many, but I do see them down in town there.

FYI Brownstown sends a bus to Salem and Salem sends a bus to Brownstown every day. Seymour sends a mini bus to Vallonia to pick up McKinney Vento kids. They meet up in Vallonia to transfer kids. Seymour and Brownstown have a handshake agreement that they don’t send busses into each others district. 

Edited November 20, 2025 by Impartial_Observer

[BtownBraves]

1 hour ago, Impartial_Observer said:

FYI Brownstown sends a bus to Salem and Salem sends a bus to Brownstown every day. Seymour sends a mini bus to Vallonia to pick up McKinney Vento kids. They meet up in Vallonia to transfer kids. Seymour and Brownstown have a handshake agreement that they don’t send busses into each others district. 

Wasn’t aware of that, makes sense now. Guess more so what I was getting at is that it was an odd thing too see for the first time in the tiny town of Vallonia 😂

[Coach Nowlin]

23 hours ago, jets said:

Lower enrollment numbers typically corresponds with a business in town either closing/leaving. (In your case- a local college). Lower enrollment (for a public school at least) also means less State funding, so has there also been staff cuts at your school?? That would be the hard/sad reality of that situation I would imagine. 

Not YET.....  but..   even a place like CROWN POINT.  Almost 3500 students at the HS, they just informed 19 people at the HS alone, they no longer have a job come January, there is going to be more cuts this summer corporation wide and as they Superintendent stated, 2 weeks ago, its going to get worse in 2027 and VERY BAD in 2031 projections, and were talking about a very well funded and recently passed referendum  in May that raised $9M however with new state laws on funding public schools, they lost 3M already because of SUITS who think they know........ 

This more of school choice downfall moreso then th traditional, well our town lost a college or a factory situation.   

23 hours ago, Basementbias said:

Have a feeling this could be a new trend that will emerge in Adams County. Heard at least one family & kids wanting to go online. I'm sure a few more would follow. I know one kid in my stepson's grade seems to be dual enrolled. Kid started online before school started & school advised against the online. Kid is supposedly going to school and then doing online/homeschooling program after school. Sounds like the family is really wanting to transition to majority online and then taking 1 class at the school (Tebow method) for athletics participation. 

yup,  some schools have that requirement, have to come to X amount of Classes to be eligible for ECA

[Basementbias]

Game Day Eve. Once again the Flying Jets seem to be the underdogs to the powerful Andrean 59ers. They will be gunning for the Jets this time. It will be tough against those D1 guys but I'm hoping for another upset win for the Jets! Let's hope we can get 2 upsets Friday night! Go Flying Jets! Go Starfires! GO ADAMS COUNTY FOOTBALL!

[23andCounting]

I have a hard time believing AC loses this game because they are outcoached or outworked. If Andrean has the talent everyone says they do, that'll be hard for AC to overcome. I've got Andrean in this one, but nothing would surprise me. I mean, AC can't go to the title game every year, can they? Somethings gotta give. 

[Justasportsfan]

On film that kid from Andrean looks like a biggggg dude!

[Coach Nowlin]

2 hours ago, Justasportsfan said:

On film that kid from Andrean looks like a biggggg dude!

HE IS  6'6 325.  #77 

[First_Backer_Inside]

33 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

HE IS  6'6 325.  #77 

Thank goodness he is playing football. Imagine having this walking around your school, and they don't play football (the kid at our school was probably more like 275, but I'm not a picky person. I would've taken the 50 pound difference)

[Justasportsfan]

46 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

HE IS  6'6 325.  #77 

Good grief!

[Coach Nowlin]

want to know the best part of his story..... middle school,  he RAN CROSS COUNTRY, for a catholic middle school diocese and was running around Andrean campus, so yea, he stuck out, and the rest is history and his Xcc days were over. 

[BtownBraves]

What’s everyone’s predictions for tonight?

[Impartial_Observer]

4 hours ago, BtownBraves said:

What’s everyone’s predictions for tonight?

Darkness, followed by daylight in the morning. 🤣

Edited November 21, 2025 by Impartial_Observer

[Coach Nowlin]

Sticking with Brownstown and Andrean.    

All 4 are OUTSTANDING HS football teams 

[Basementbias]

Congrats Andrean. What a 5 year run by our Flying Jets! 5 semi states, 4 state appearances, 3 runner ups, and 1 championship. Hard to beat that run!