IU 2024

[hondo17]

10 minutes ago, temptation said:

Just so we are clear, what is the criteria/winning percentage in which is becomes acceptable to talk out of your ass and at what level must that success be attained?

Can middle school football coaches cite their win loss record and flex whenever they wish?

Huge difference between middle school football and lower level d1 lol or d2. Bad take.

10 minutes ago, temptation said:

 

 

10 minutes ago, temptation said:

 

 

Edited October 2, 2024 by hondo17

[Coach Nowlin]

15 minutes ago, temptation said:

Just so we are clear, what is the criteria/winning percentage in which is becomes acceptable to talk out of your ass and at what level must that success be attained?

Can middle school football coaches cite their win loss record and flex whenever they wish?

Again, you choose to make remarks about this coach because you don't like his tag lines, yet you are ok with Michigan tag line under the guise of "locker room "  

News Flash....... EVERY SINGLE POWER 5 and probably below literally have SOCIAL MEDIA TEAMS following around teams for their CONTENT.   EVERYONE....  No such thing as behind close doors.   It's literally the same.  if anything, you should applaud a coach like Coach Cig who is confident enough in his system and program building based on his track record willing to put it out there, then thus far, has been able to back it up with a current 5-0 start.   

What defines this "talkin out his ass"?    That is an opinion, which you can have, just be ready to be rebunk when your opinion doesn't carry any value.  You are the one offended by this coach and his approach, not I or others, so the burden to prove anything is not on I, like I have presented before, he does not have to be YOUR cup of tea, but to call him a clown, cite he was gonna be fired by 2026 and the other tangible thing you have stated was "Schools A,B,C Suck" at a glorified pep session, the tag line GOOGLE ME, and one other one....

[temptation]

26 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

 

26 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

26 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

In a room full of other middle school coaches? Sure

So translate that to the next two levels for me.

Is a guys win loss record at a 1A school comparable to someone’s at a 6A school?

Can a guy like Cignetti seriously be compared to someone who has been in the power 5 for his entire career?

See, herein lies my problem…Cignetti talks like he is Nick Saban…despite having 2.5 years of FBS head coaching experience.

Edited October 2, 2024 by temptation

[temptation]

13 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Again, you choose to make remarks about this coach because you don't like his tag lines, yet you are ok with Michigan tag line under the guise of "locker room "  

News Flash....... EVERY SINGLE POWER 5 and probably below literally have SOCIAL MEDIA TEAMS following around teams for their CONTENT.   EVERYONE....  No such thing as behind close doors.   It's literally the same.  if anything, you should applaud a coach like Coach Cig who is confident enough in his system and program building based on his track record willing to put it out there, then thus far, has been able to back it up with a current 5-0 start.   

What defines this "talkin out his ass"?    That is an opinion, which you can have, just be ready to be rebunk when your opinion doesn't carry any value.  You are the one offended by this coach and his approach, not I or others, so the burden to prove anything is not on I, like I have presented before, he does not have to be YOUR cup of tea, but to call him a clown, cite he was gonna be fired by 2026 and the other tangible thing you have stated was "Schools A,B,C Suck" at a glorified pep session, the tag line GOOGLE ME, and one other one....

Just a fan of boasting once you’ve accomplished something.  That’s the difference between you and I, I guess.

James Madison and a handful of wins over teams whose seasons will end before December is cute and all and I am happy for the “fans” in Bloomington but as I said, let’s pump the brakes.

My 2026 prediction could still come true…I mean the 2020 NATIONAL COACH OF THE YEAR was let go 4 years later after all.

[temptation]

Quick forum poll:  How many in the “fan of Cignetti” camp also like Prime at Colorado?

Same guy, same schtick…

Edited October 2, 2024 by temptation

[Footballking16]

12 minutes ago, temptation said:

So translate that to the next two levels for me.

Is a guys win loss record at a 1A school comparable to someone’s at a 6A school?

Can a guy like Cignetti seriously be compared to someone who has been in the power 5 for his entire career?

See, herein lies my problem…Cignetti talks like he is Nick Saban…despite having 2.5 years of FBS head coaching experience.

I'd say building up several different programs at the lower level is a harder feat than winning as the head coach at a school like Alabama or Ohio State or Texas. 

[temptation]

2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

I'd say building up several different programs at the lower level is a harder feat than winning as the head coach at a school like Alabama or Ohio State or Texas. 

Even with schedule strength?

Interesting.

What’s Cignetti’s signature FBS win?

[Footballking16]

1 minute ago, temptation said:

Even with schedule strength?

Interesting.

What’s Cignetti’s signature FBS win?

You're missing the forest through the trees. The point is, he wins everywhere he goes. He builds up programs and leaves them in a better place than he found them. That's a lot harder than being hired at say Ohio State or a Michigan where you have built in advantages that already put you in the 99th percentile. 

[temptation]

2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

You're missing the forest through the trees. The point is, he wins everywhere he goes. He builds up programs and leaves them in a better place than he found them. That's a lot harder than being hired at say Ohio State or a Michigan where you have built in advantages that already put you in the 99th percentile. 

I can get on board with this.

Sort of like another guy mentioned in this thread.

You a fan of Prime?

Edited October 2, 2024 by temptation

[Muda69]

6 minutes ago, temptation said:

I can get on board with this.

Sort of like another guy mentioned in this thread.

You a fan of Prime?

Who/what is "Prime"?  Isn't that some nasty energy drink I've seen discounted down to 25 cents a can at the Dollar General?

 

[Bash Riprock]

2 hours ago, temptation said:

@Bash Riprock

@Footballking16

I own real estate in their heads.

Surely, you can relate.

(No, seriously though…when you are the KINGS of the sport, you’re on everyone’s mind.)

My only reference is that you've been quiet about IU for a change.  I said nothing about Michigan.  

Come out of your basement soon get some sunshine!! BTW, wood paneling making a return??

[Bash Riprock]

43 minutes ago, temptation said:

So translate that to the next two levels for me.

Is a guys win loss record at a 1A school comparable to someone’s at a 6A school?

Can a guy like Cignetti seriously be compared to someone who has been in the power 5 for his entire career?

See, herein lies my problem…Cignetti talks like he is Nick Saban…despite having 2.5 years of FBS head coaching experience.

Cignetti has a heck of a better resume that the current Michigan coach....that's not debatable....well, at least by a sane person.

I also think you are discounting Cignetti's experiences as an asst coach.  Again as stated in a previous post...do I believe your opinion or his former boss' opinion, Nick Saban? 

Edited October 2, 2024 by Bash Riprock

[gonzoron]

9 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

My only reference is that you've been quiet about IU for a change.  I said nothing about Michigan.  

Come out of your basement soon get some sunshine!! BTW, wood paneling making a return??

Looks like his hair has grown out a lot since he's been down there! It was shaved last I saw.

[temptation]

9 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Cignetti has a heck of a better resume that the current Michigan coach....that's not debatable....well, at least by a sane person.

I also think you are discounting Cignetti's experiences as an asst coach.  Again as stated in a previous post...do I believe your opinion or his former boss' opinion, Nick Saban? 

Cignetti has wins over Penn State and Ohio State on his resume?  Damn, must’ve missed that.

Can I also use Sherrone’s OL/assistant playcalling days?

I’m not saying you’re completely wrong but I am willing to have the debate.

Edited October 2, 2024 by temptation

[temptation]

3 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Looks like his hair has grown out a lot since he's been down there! It was shaved last I saw.

Still bringing zero substance to the boards I see.

Tiring and boring.

[Bash Riprock]

13 minutes ago, temptation said:

Cignetti has wins over Penn State and Ohio State on his resume?  Damn, must’ve missed that.

Can I also use Sherrone’s OL/assistant playcalling days?

I’m not saying you’re completely wrong but I am willing to have the debate.

Shocking.....

[temptation]

Just now, Bash Riprock said:

Shocking.....

Sherrone woke up the morning of the Penn State game, ate breakfast, rode the team bus to Beaver Stadium and was informed an hour before kickoff he was the acting head coach…

Blowout win.

Sherrone’s fourth game as acting head coach was the greatest rivalry in all of sports…

Win.

Sherrone called the drive of his life to lift Michigan to overtime over Alabama in the Rose Bowl.

Cignetti beat a Maryland team that’s gonna win 5 games.

[hondo17]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Just a fan of boasting once you’ve accomplished something.  That’s the difference between you and I, I guess.

James Madison and a handful of wins over teams whose seasons will end before December is cute and all and I am happy for the “fans” in Bloomington but as I said, let’s pump the brakes.

My 2026 prediction could still come true…I mean the 2020 NATIONAL COACH OF THE YEAR was let go 4 years later after all.

As I said in my post...what hurt Tom Allen was the assistants he lost and failed to hire capable oc/dcs in the like. 

Coach Cignetti has won at multiple different levels, with different schools and coordinators which shows he can coach and has the ability to see talent as far as player wise and coordinator wise...which is why he's always won. 

 

I think the biggest thing you are missing is this.

Look how Indiana is winning. 

Indiana under HCTA would not have beat Maryland, probably barely beats UCLA and FIU, beats Charlotte and Western Illinois albeit closer. 

Indiana had 4 turnovers and won against Maryland, dominated both WIU and Charlotte.. ran away from UCLA and beat FIU. 

They aren't playing world beaters but it's how you play and beat those teams that says a lot and which is why Indiana is getting some love. 

If Indiana was 5-0 but beat FIU by 7, Western Illinois by 49, Charlotte by 21, UCLA by 14 and beat Maryland by 7...they wouldn't be getting the love they are and IU fans wouldn't be as excited.  

[Footballking16]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

I can get on board with this.

Sort of like another guy mentioned in this thread.

You a fan of Prime?

Prime’s got a long way to go before he’s in Cignetti’s realm, but I respect anybody who can walk the talk. 

[PHJIrish]

I skipped a few pages.  Did I miss anything?

[Coach Nowlin]

If Nick Saban stayed at Michigan St does he win National Title? 

 

If Jim Harbaugh stays at Stanford does he in win a national title? 

 

These great coaches had to go to what is known as Blue Blood Football programs to earn that distinction.    

 

Yet Temp you downgrade Coach Cignetti for his accomplishments thus far in this conversation.    Interesting to say the least 

[Coach Nowlin]

3 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

Prime’s got a long way to go before he’s in Cignetti’s realm, but I respect anybody who can walk the talk. 

Agree.  Coach Sanders is different, however, one would look at IU success vs Colorado and I would give IU the edge on the coaching hire thus far.    Coach Sanders has brought attention to a dead program, but can he sustain success by turning over rosters so much??

[gonzoron]

17 minutes ago, PHJIrish said:

I skipped a few pages.  Did I miss anything?

Not really. Michigan is worried IU is going to beat them this year is the gist of it.

[Footballking16]

2 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Not really. Michigan is worried IU is going to beat them this year is the gist of it.

Bingo

[temptation]

10 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

If Nick Saban stayed at Michigan St does he win National Title? 

 

If Jim Harbaugh stays at Stanford does he in win a national title? 

 

These great coaches had to go to what is known as Blue Blood Football programs to earn that distinction.    

 

Yet Temp you downgrade Coach Cignetti for his accomplishments thus far in this conversation.    Interesting to say the least 

Certainly you aren't comparing power 5 jobs like Stanford and Michigan State to JAMES MADISON with a straight face?

If so, I KNOW you are trolling.