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  1. Simply put, I would guess that they are being compensated for time spent outside of the classroom with their coaching stipends. I can guarantee that a well ran strength program reaches far beyond the walls of the weight room itself. The time that it takes to plan, the daily set-up, the daily break down, and the professional development of a highly effective strength coach could and should compare to that of a highly effective classroom teacher. The difference of the two, in my opinion, would be the time that it takes to run a highly effective football program 365 days a year. I would also say that for programs/coaches that are interested in developing all of their student-athletes, the football coach/strength coach is not sitting on a computer while the student-athletes train. That film work is likely done late at night, after his own kids have gone to bed. I applaud the school districts who competitively compensate these coaches, who are managing programs of 125-175 student-athletes, for the time and effort that they spend outside of the school to effectively manage their programs!
    4 points
  2. As someone has already mentioned, many are compensated (I am sure competitively) for those extracurriculars that you mentioned and likely have a “perk” of additional prep periods as well. I was not insinuating more or less effort, simply stating that it is a big undertaking to lead programs of that size/magnitude and doing what it takes to be highly effective at it. I am sure these schools understand the benefit and importance of education based athletics. They also likely understand the importance of having someone who is highly qualified leading their football program, along with the positive impact that a successful fall season can have on their community, school, etc.
    3 points
  3. In many situations, not all, head coaches are also paid for the extra things they do. For example, summer conditioning, extra supervision help, summer camps they put on, running the weight program if there is no strength coach, they are at the top of the pay scale and that dictates % wise what their football salary would be, and some schools make the head coach (not just football) as an administrator because they have to evaluate people and programs (asst. coaches & entire football program) which is a schools right. Having been a head coach and labeled as an administrator and my salary covered EVRYTHING I did related to football, teaching, and supervision, this is quite fair to what these gentlemen are making.
    3 points
  4. Kroger is also Union, which is why they’ve earned my money over the years. Kroger is called Smith’s in Vegas.
    2 points
  5. I don't really....but this is too funny.
    2 points
  6. Northwood went to state in 2016 and went 11-1 in 2018. Concord has won sectionals 2 of the last 3 years. Northridge went 11-3 in 2014. Went 9-1 in 2017. Plymouth went 11-1, in 14, 10-3 in 15, 9-3 last year. Carry on, talking about crap you don't know.
    2 points
  7. I think there was 3 this year as follows: 2nd Round: Jeremy Chinn, Safety, Fishers, Southern Illinois to Carolina 5th Round: Danny Pinter, OL, South Bend Adams, Ball State to Indianapolis 7th Round: Tommy Stevens, QB, Decatur Central, Penn State/Mississippi State to New Orleans Did I miss any? Any known undrafted FA pickups?
    1 point
  8. The Bowsman Strong movement was to honor a man who made a who difference on and off the field. It should remain reserved for men of honor on the gridiron. It should not be used as a movement every time someone in the state of Indiana wants to honor someone or something. It should be reserved for an elite level of situations.
    1 point
  9. Now if the head football coach was a department head...he would have three preps in the fall, his teaching prep, department head prep, and football coach prep. I am also assuming all the head coaching in the MIC are teachers in a building. Maybe they have lunch supervision, study hall supervision, etc...that could lead up to quite a pay day. Also before you complain about the Indy area coaches...how about some love for the Gary/Calumet/St. Joe Valley coaches
    1 point
  10. Can we call for a referendum to have referendums?
    1 point
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  12. By being GOP and appealing to all the Bible Thumpers, he did.
    1 point
  13. Seems like Temptation wants to join the coaching ranks. Seems like he is missing out on the giant pie !!!
    1 point
  14. Tayven Jackson got his first P5 offer from IU
    1 point
  15. It is a shame that smaller, locally owned places have been run out, not just in grocery stores, but think hardware, furniture, pet stores. Thankfully, restaurants still provide plenty of local options. As far as Kroger goes, I will say it is so worth it to me to pay an extra $9.95 to have them delivered, to simply avoid the chaos.
    1 point
  16. That is likely a correct assumption. I know a number of people in other roles that get an extra prep because of the time commitment involved with the program or club. Student council reps, department chairs, other head coaches(not just football), association presidents, and marching band director Are just a few that come to mind.
    1 point
  17. My concern would be not one of money, but of "perks". In South Bend, the head football coach gets one extra prep in the fall. I would assume the coaches in the MIC have the same perk.
    1 point
  18. https://www.apartments.com/palm-villas-at-whitney-ranch-henderson-nv/5bfqq8q/ Standard for anything quality in metropolitan Las Vegas.
    1 point
  19. Just don’t add up?? Are you accusing school districts of “fudging their books” in order to pay coaches?? That’s pretty serious accusations...I’d tred lightly throwing around that speak. And why so obsessed/jealous of how much another’s making ?? Do you feel it’s not fair? If you really feel strongly perhaps you should voice your concern with local school board/superintendent. Do I wish I could make more?? Sure...but I’m not gonna ever cut down someone for getting theirs...teachers are grossly UNDERPAID as a profession. Plain and simple
    1 point
  20. Is Coach Moore still the head coach for the track team as well? I get that on the surface these look high. I think people need to consider that part of the pay is going to based on all that a coach earns as a teacher. A coach may have a Master's degree that gets a small bump in pay. Personal perspective on the coaching pay. years ago, I received a 1099 Miscellaneous form for my pay. So, I sat down and figured my mileage from the school I was in to the building I coached. Including weight training 3 days a week, I spent 185 days doing something with the football team. That included the Summer workouts as well. Since then, I have kept track, and can say when the Summer rules expanded, the pay for most did not. I do know some districts will compensate their coaches for the time they spend in the Summer. That may factor in as well. Bottom line; similar to what we have to tell the politicians when it comes to education; there is more to the story than just numbers.
    1 point
  21. This seem to be appropriate salaries for the level these coaches have achieved, the responsibility they have, and the amount of work they put in. It's equivalent to mod/senior manager positions at many companies in the Indy metro area.
    1 point
  22. As I have said numerous times, athletics are very cyclical. A “down” season is allowed every now and then. Ben Davis and Penn will continue to be forces to be reckoned with no matter how full their stadium is nor if their conferences best days may (or may not) be behind them.
    1 point
  23. I hope we can see things moving soon too; but how soon is too soon????? I am not as optimistic as some on here are though. As Bob said, we have an ethical dilemma we have to face up to here. What is the death toll that becomes an acceptable thing, to where we say ok; in the long run, it was a good move to lift the restrictions? Along those lines; what number makes us say, well, we certainly made the wrong move there?
    1 point
  24. The “flu” is actually several different strains of viruses. The annual flu shot is merely an amalgam of 3-4 different vaccines against the strains of the virus that epidemiologists predict will be most prevalent that season. But a flu shot doesn’t protect against any other strain of influenza. So, it’s relatively common for a person to get a “flu” shot, and still get the flu. It’s just a different strain than the ones covered by the vaccine. I think SARS-CoV-2 is a game changer. I think we are going to be pushed to the ethical brink by having to make a choice between the deaths we are willing to absorb in the name of keeping the economy going the way it was before vs. maximum infection control.If all we were interested in was keeping the most people healthy, there would be no large gatherings until there was a vaccine that worked, or until we had an effective, readily deliverable treatment that keeps people off ventilators and out of ICUs. As far as which way it’s going to play out, I predict the pressure to “restart” the economy — especially in an election year — will become too great. Restrictions will be relaxed. As a result, we’ll experience a secondary wave of infections and deaths, probably this Fall. There will be some restrictions re-imposed, but probably not to the extent before. So, until there is a vaccine, we’ll keep seeing infections and deaths. The numbers will depend on what restrictions we are willing to put up with to protect the vulnerable segment of the population.
    1 point
  25. THANK YOU! DT is nothing more than a keyboard warrior and this board would be better off without him. I’ve never seen someone criticize programs/coaches/young adults the way he does. He needs to go.
    -1 points
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