jets Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Titan32 said: If they want to kinda stick with the theme of the last realignment...you might be onto something here. But if they want to make it more like before....not so much. Ahh you mean the ol East/West of Southern Indiana sectional alignments?? I tried to run that one through as well (Basically splitting up 31 and 32 between "Evansville" area (32) and "other" Southern Indiana, mostly eastern (31) ...but without Sullivan and/or Memorial and it's looking like Brownstown - it was a little tougher to make work. It would look something like: 31 (eastern time zone teams) - Corydon, Salem, Charleston, Scottsburg, Rushville, Brown County, North Harrison, Southridge 32 (central time zone) - Mt. Vernon, Bosse, Vincennes Lincoln, Gibson Southern, Princeton, H.H., Washington, Pike Central Not sure I love this set-up, but you are right, it is another way they could go...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, jets said: Ahh you mean the ol East/West of Southern Indiana sectional alignments?? I tried to run that one through as well (Basically splitting up 31 and 32 between "Evansville" area (32) and "other" Southern Indiana, mostly eastern (31) ...but without Sullivan and/or Memorial and it's looking like Brownstown - it was a little tougher to make work. It would look something like: 31 (eastern time zone teams) - Corydon, Salem, Charleston, Scottsburg, Rushville, Brown County, North Harrison, Southridge 32 (central time zone) - Mt. Vernon, Bosse, Vincennes Lincoln, Gibson Southern, Princeton, H.H., Washington, Pike Central Not sure I love this set-up, but you are right, it is another way they could go...? Yeah, agree....they "could" go back to something like this. I'm not going to get to attached to either theory LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 9:30 PM, crimsonace1 said: Here's what I was able to pull. Note: These are unofficial and reflect 4-grade enrollment. With regards to Hammond, I merged Clark & Hammond's enrollments, as well as Gavit & Morton's, as is the consolidation plan. The Evansville schools, for example, tend to get a bit of an enrollment bump. I have no idea what Park Tudor's enrollment is, but they're solidly 1A. Danville's result tomorrow will determine whether it is 3A or 4A for the next two years. By this math, that will likely affect Delta (which goes down to 3A if Danville wins). UPDATE: I have made edits to reflect LCC being in 2A and Madison (not Madison-Grant) in 3A. IHSAA enrollment - Copy of Sheet1 (3).pdf 76.38 kB · 95 downloads You always do a great job with this every reclassification. Morton will be 6A and Hammond High will be in 5A. Valpo will remain in 5A. Looks like sectional 9 will be Hammond High, Munter, Valpo, Michigan City and LaPorte with two of the schools having a play in game to open the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsCoach Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tommy said: You always do a great job with this every reclassification. Morton will be 6A and Hammond High will be in 5A. Valpo will remain in 5A. Looks like sectional 9 will be Hammond High, Munter, Valpo, Michigan City and LaPorte with two of the schools having a play in game to open the tournament. Based on the number of schools with football, I don’t think 5A will have any 5 team sectionals. They should have 32 schools in 5A with 8 sectionals of 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullhorn99 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Tommy said: You always do a great job with this every reclassification. Morton will be 6A and Hammond High will be in 5A. Valpo will remain in 5A. Looks like sectional 9 will be Hammond High, Munter, Valpo, Michigan City and LaPorte with two of the schools having a play in game to open the tournament. Here's a quote from a recent article in the Times of Northwest Indiana: "At the high schools, Hammond administrators project 1,793 students will attend Hammond Central and 1,930 will attend Morton." Based on this, both Hammond schools would be 5A. Is there more recent information to point Morton to 6A? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 If both Valpo and Merrillville are both in 5A that would give Chesterton a great opportunity to finally win their first ever sectional title in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonace1 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 22 hours ago, Bullhorn99 said: Here's a quote from a recent article in the Times of Northwest Indiana: "At the high schools, Hammond administrators project 1,793 students will attend Hammond Central and 1,930 will attend Morton." Based on this, both Hammond schools would be 5A. Is there more recent information to point Morton to 6A? The classifications are based on *this* year's enrollment, not necessarily next year's projected enrollment. The same article you're referencing stated Clark & Hammond will be merged, and Gavit/Morton are being merged, so I combined their enrollment numbers (Morton at 2,063 and Hammond at 1,596 ... but the projections are actually *more* students than currently attend the schools). It will be interesting to see how the IHSAA handles this. Usually, what it will do is add together the enrollments of the schools being consolidated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullhorn99 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 42 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said: The classifications are based on *this* year's enrollment, not necessarily next year's projected enrollment. The same article you're referencing stated Clark & Hammond will be merged, and Gavit/Morton are being merged, so I combined their enrollment numbers (Morton at 2,063 and Hammond at 1,596 ... but the projections are actually *more* students than currently attend the schools). It will be interesting to see how the IHSAA handles this. Usually, what it will do is add together the enrollments of the schools being consolidated. Yes, it will have a substantial influence because it will shift some schools right on the border between 5A and 6A, and depending on how it shakes out, sectional alignments could be significantly impacted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjay Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 On 12/1/2020 at 8:42 AM, HoopsCoach said: Based on the number of schools with football, I don’t think 5A will have any 5 team sectionals. They should have 32 schools in 5A with 8 sectionals of 4. I wish they would make 1A a 32 team class instead of 5A. Just a thought. It would shake things up a bit in the middle classes. And 1A schools with limited rosters could benefit from a week of rest and healing before starting the tournament. Guessing most 5A rosters have 70-80 kids with no freshmen and most 1A have 30-40 with 8-12 freshmen. Also the 32 team 1A would be public class only. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qbcoach13 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Stab at 1a (63 Teams) 41 South Putnam 360 Winamac 349 North Judson 326 South Central (Union Mills) 320 Gary Bowman 290 North White 247 South Newton 238 West Central 222 42 Seeger 367 Clinton Prairie 365 Carroll (Carroll) 331 Covington 276 Clinton Central 273 Tri-County 211 Frontier 199 Attica 183 43 Taylor 347 Sheridan 338 Monroe Central 322 Southern Wells 272 Wes-Del 261 Anderson Prep 258 Union City 243 Tri-Central 240 44 South Adams 346 North Miami 284 Fremont 284 Northfield 269 Southwood 259 Triton 253 Culver 233 Caston 218 45 South Putnam 360 Parke Heritage 350 Cloverdale 309 Fountain Central 305 Riverton Parke 298 North Central (Farmersburg) 289 Dugger Union 189 North Vermillion 179 46 (7 teams) Covenant Christian (Indianapolis) 344 Edinburgh 228 Indianapolis Tindley 207 Indianapolis Lutheran 203 Park Tudor 200 Traders Point Christian 121 Indiana Deaf 113 47 Knightstown 354 Hagerstown 336 North Decatur 330 Milan 317 South Decatur 304 Cambridge City Lincoln 284 Tri 246 Oldenburg Academy 203 48 Clarksville 353 Providence 344 Eastern Greene 308 Tecumseh 300 North Daviess 297 West Washington 295 Springs Valley 259 Rock Creek 185 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachDurham Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 49 minutes ago, qbcoach13 said: Stab at 1a (63 Teams) 41 South Putnam 360 Winamac 349 North Judson 326 South Central (Union Mills) 320 Gary Bowman 290 North White 247 South Newton 238 West Central 222 42 Seeger 367 Clinton Prairie 365 Carroll (Carroll) 331 Covington 276 Clinton Central 273 Tri-County 211 Frontier 199 Attica 183 43 Taylor 347 Sheridan 338 Monroe Central 322 Southern Wells 272 Wes-Del 261 Anderson Prep 258 Union City 243 Tri-Central 240 44 South Adams 346 North Miami 284 Fremont 284 Northfield 269 Southwood 259 Triton 253 Culver 233 Caston 218 45 South Putnam 360 Parke Heritage 350 Cloverdale 309 Fountain Central 305 Riverton Parke 298 North Central (Farmersburg) 289 Dugger Union 189 North Vermillion 179 46 (7 teams) Covenant Christian (Indianapolis) 344 Edinburgh 228 Indianapolis Tindley 207 Indianapolis Lutheran 203 Park Tudor 200 Traders Point Christian 121 Indiana Deaf 113 47 Knightstown 354 Hagerstown 336 North Decatur 330 Milan 317 South Decatur 304 Cambridge City Lincoln 284 Tri 246 Oldenburg Academy 203 48 Clarksville 353 Providence 344 Eastern Greene 308 Tecumseh 300 North Daviess 297 West Washington 295 Springs Valley 259 Rock Creek 185 Im rooting for the 140 Mile 3 hour trip from South Put to South Central! At least 1 school will gain an hour with time change on 1 of their trips! Thank you for the hard work and doing this! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStatGuy Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, CoachDurham said: Im rooting for the 140 Mile 3 hour trip from South Put to South Central! At least 1 school will gain an hour with time change on 1 of their trips! Thank you for the hard work and doing this! I think you can replace North Newton with South Putnam 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qbcoach13 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, CoachDurham said: Im rooting for the 140 Mile 3 hour trip from South Put to South Central! At least 1 school will gain an hour with time change on 1 of their trips! Thank you for the hard work and doing this! Mistake, it should be North Newton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qbcoach13 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Updated 41 North Newton 355 Winamac 349 North Judson 326 South Central (Union Mills) 320 Gary Bowman 290 North White 247 South Newton 238 West Central 222 42 Seeger 367 Clinton Prairie 365 Carroll (Carroll) 331 Covington 276 Clinton Central 273 Tri-County 211 Frontier 199 Attica 183 43 Taylor 347 Sheridan 338 Monroe Central 322 Southern Wells 272 Wes-Del 261 Anderson Prep 258 Union City 243 Tri-Central 240 44 South Adams 346 North Miami 284 Fremont 284 Northfield 269 Southwood 259 Triton 253 Culver 233 Caston 218 45 South Putnam 360 Parke Heritage 350 Cloverdale 309 Fountain Central 305 Riverton Parke 298 North Central (Farmersburg) 289 Dugger Union 189 North Vermillion 179 46 Covenant Christian (Indianapolis) 344 Edinburgh 228 Indianapolis Tindley 207 Indianapolis Lutheran 203 Park Tudor 200 Traders Point Christian 121 Indiana Deaf 113 47 Knightstown 354 Hagerstown 336 North Decatur 330 Milan 317 South Decatur 304 Cambridge City Lincoln 284 Tri 246 Oldenburg Academy 203 48 Clarksville 353 Providence 344 Eastern Greene 308 Tecumseh 300 North Daviess 297 West Washington 295 Springs Valley 259 Rock Creek 185 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeqb Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, CoachDurham said: Im rooting for the 140 Mile 3 hour trip from South Put to South Central! At least 1 school will gain an hour with time change on 1 of their trips! Thank you for the hard work and doing this! Providence or Rock Creek to North Daviess would be 2 hours/100 miles minimum, probably closer to 125-130 if they decide to take interstates. South of US 50, the football playing schools are so spread out, sectional travel can get pretty long. That’s another reason I wish the state would allow co-op teams for those students a chance to play. The entire Blue Chip Conference with schools like Barr Reeve, Loogootee, Shoals, NE Dubois, Washington Catholic, Rivet, South Knox and Wood Memorial are all small schools in that geographical area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBFootball1 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said: Providence or Rock Creek to North Daviess would be 2 hours/100 miles minimum, probably closer to 125-130 if they decide to take interstates. South of US 50, the football playing schools are so spread out, sectional travel can get pretty long. That’s another reason I wish the state would allow co-op teams for those students a chance to play. The entire Blue Chip Conference with schools like Barr Reeve, Loogootee, Shoals, NE Dubois, Washington Catholic, Rivet, South Knox and Wood Memorial are all small schools in that geographical area. I am becoming more and more intrigued with 8 man football. It would allow schools, such as those mentioned above, to field a team and allow some smaller 1A programs a chance to be more competitive. Add to that what it could do to shake up the classes across the board and I am becoming a bigger proponent each year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilLee Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 10:53 AM, Coach Harvey said: My best guess for 5a. 9: Merrillville, Munster, Hammond Morton, Hammond Central 10: Michigan City, LaPorte, South Bend Adams, Valparaiso 11: Huntington North, Goshen, Concord, Mishawaka 12: FW Northrop, FW North Side, FW Bishop Dwenger, FW Snider 13: New Palestine, Kokomo, McCutcheon, Anderson 14: Whiteland, Decatur Central, Indpls. Cathedral, Plainfield 15: Bloomington South, Bloomington North, Columbus East, Franklin 16: New Albany, Floyd Central, Castle, Seymour Cathedral is farther north then New Pal. And those 3 northern school don't need to pass Cathedral on the way to play New Pal. Here is a more realistic look at 5A South (and Kokomo, McCutcheon and Anderson have to come south): 13- Cathedral, Anderson, McCutcheon and Kokomo 14- Decatur Central, Plainfield, Bloomington North, Bloomington South 15- Whiteland, Columbus East, Franklin, New Palestine 16- Castle, New Albany, Floyd Central and Seymour 9- Michigan City, LaPorte, Valparaiso and Merrilville 10- SB Adams, Concord, 10- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilLee Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 3A South is tricky but here is what I have right now: 29- Tri-West, South Vermillion, Monrovia, Danville, Indy Washington, Western Boone, Speedway, Vincennes 30- South Dearborn, Lawrenceburg, Greensburg, Batesville, Rushville, Indian Creek, Franklin County, Brown County 31- Salem, North Harrison, Scottsburg, Madison, Charlestown, Corydon, Owen Valley, Edgewood 32- Southridge, Heritage Hills, Mt. Vernon, Princeton, Gibson Southern, Washington, Ev Bosse, Pike Central Edited December 3, 2020 by PhilLee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 7 hours ago, PhilLee said: 3A South is tricky but here is what I have right now: 29- Tri-West, South Vermillion, Monrovia, Danville, Indy Washington, Western Boone, Speedway, Vincennes 30- South Dearborn, Lawrenceburg, Greensburg, Batesville, Rushville, Indian Creek, Franklin County, Brown County 31- Salem, North Harrison, Scottsburg, Madison, Charlestown, Corydon, Owen Valley, Edgewood 32- Southridge, Heritage Hills, Mt. Vernon, Princeton, Gibson Southern, Washington, Ev Bosse, Pike Central VINCENNES up in the Indy sectional?? Uh...that just makes about 0 sense at all. I think you'd be better serviced moving a school like Indian Creek up north, moving someone (Edgewood, Owen Valley?) to 30, and then someone from 32 to 31, and Vincennes to 32. I mean, Vincennes is in the SIAC for pete's sake lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Harvey Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 8 hours ago, PhilLee said: Cathedral is farther north then New Pal. And those 3 northern school don't need to pass Cathedral on the way to play New Pal. Here is a more realistic look at 5A South (and Kokomo, McCutcheon and Anderson have to come south): 13- Cathedral, Anderson, McCutcheon and Kokomo 14- Decatur Central, Plainfield, Bloomington North, Bloomington South 15- Whiteland, Columbus East, Franklin, New Palestine 16- Castle, New Albany, Floyd Central and Seymour 9- Michigan City, LaPorte, Valparaiso and Merrilville 10- SB Adams, Concord, 10- I don't think Cathedral will go North. I base that off the 2017-2018 classification when Cathedral went South and New Pal even went to the north semistate. Cathedral has been in Decatur Central's sectional for the last 4 years and I don't see the ISHAA changing all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerFran Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Best stab at 2A I could muster... Sectional Team 33 Rensselaer 33 Whiting 33 Noll 33 Andrean 33 Lake Station 33 Wheeler 33 Boone Grove 33 River Forest 34 Bremen 34 Rochester 34 Pioneer 34 Wabash 34 Cass 34 Delphi 34 Laville 34 LCC 35 Prairie Heights 35 Central Noble 35 Churubusco 35 Eastside 35 Whitko 35 Luers 35 Adams Central 35 Bluffton 36 Oak Hill 36 Eastbrook 36 Blackford 36 Eastern (Greentown) 36 Madison Grant 36 Elwood 36 Tipton 36 Machester 37 Southmont 37 North Putnam 37 Greencastle 37 Cascade 37 Ritter 37 Scecina 37 Heritage Christian 37 Phalen- not sure if they will participate in tournament. 38 Frankton 38 Lapel 38 Shenandoah 38 Eastern Hancock 38 Wichester 38 Northeastern 38 Centerville 38 Union County 39 Triton Central 39 Switzerland County 39 Brownstown 39 Eastern (Pekin) 39 Mitchell 39 Paoli 39 Crwaford County 39 Perry Central 40 Sullivan 40 Linton 40 North Knox 40 North Posey 40 Mater Dei 40 South Spencer 40 Tell City 40 Forest Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsCoach Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 56 minutes ago, Coach Harvey said: I don't think Cathedral will go North. I base that off the 2017-2018 classification when Cathedral went South and New Pal even went to the north semistate. Cathedral has been in Decatur Central's sectional for the last 4 years and I don't see the ISHAA changing all that. Cathedral would still be in the south semi-state if they are in that sectional with McCutcheon, Kokomo, and Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Harvey Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HoopsCoach said: Cathedral would still be in the south semi-state if they are in that sectional with McCutcheon, Kokomo, and Anderson. Well aware. I never said either team would go to the North semi-state this classification, rather that in 2017-2018, New Pal did go North. My point being that New Pal has historically gone to the more northern sectional while Cathedral has gone south. Edited December 3, 2020 by Coach Harvey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsCoach Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, FarmerFran said: Phalen- not sure if they will participate in tournament. Phalen is not an IHSAA member school. If you go to the IHSAA directory, they are not listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 9 hours ago, PhilLee said: Cathedral is farther north then New Pal. And those 3 northern school don't need to pass Cathedral on the way to play New Pal. Here is a more realistic look at 5A South (and Kokomo, McCutcheon and Anderson have to come south): 13- Cathedral, Anderson, McCutcheon and Kokomo 14- Decatur Central, Plainfield, Bloomington North, Bloomington South 15- Whiteland, Columbus East, Franklin, New Palestine 16- Castle, New Albany, Floyd Central and Seymour 9- Michigan City, LaPorte, Valparaiso and Merrilville 10- SB Adams, Concord, 10- Ouch! McCutcheon and Anderson lost to Harrison by a combined 84-14 this season ... McCutcheon was shutout. Kokomo didn't play due to KOVID, but was KO'd by McCutcheon 24-7 in the first round of sectionals. Not sure Cathedral plays those two games of sectionals, but it should be lots of opportunity for non-starters to get playing time in tourney play. 31 minutes ago, FarmerFran said: Best stab at 2A I could muster... Sectional Team 34 Bremen 34 Rochester 34 Pioneer 34 Wabash 34 Cass 34 Delphi 34 Laville 34 LCC This will almost all but assure that LCC or Pioneer or both would likely be back in 1A in the 2023 cycle. If IHSAA were smart, they'd find a way to put them in different regions to give potential that they both stay up in 2A. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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