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So just a wildly unfound opinion then? More schools might contract their football teams because a woman is in charge and they don't understand/care for football? How ignorant is that?

It sure what the answer is. The group that handles BA/SB officials at Grand Park are throwing money at them to get them to come. My SB partner has been going up there and doing BA 20 bucks for a hotel room by yourself, they’re offering free equipment and uniforms to new umps. He gets an extra money in their first game of the day. So this weekend his first game of the day he got $125. All this is well and good, but all they’re doing is robbing umpires from other organizations. My last tournament I had four diamonds going. We were suppose to have a 3-man rotation on every diamond. Due to sickness, not showing up, sending a guy home, by Sunday I was down to two 5-man rotations, with an Ironman on one diamond the last three games. So parents when the tournament director is dealing with stuff like this like every day anymore, he’s probably not going to care that little Suzi got rung up on a pitch that was “foot” off the plate. Tell little Suzy to get the bat off her shoulder, his strike zone has been all over the place all day!

And the meek shall inherit 5A😎

Just a reminder for those playing along with DT's thought exercise - football is only one of 20 IHSAA-sanctioned sports and a school that may be struggling in football may still be a good fit in a conference in terms of geography, school population and competitiveness in other sports.

I was surprised and pleased to see the fine biography of Coach Spike Kelly. I suppose I am the only GID poster to have attended games when Kelly was one of the coaches. Being a lifetime Linton Miner fan, I experienced the difficulty of my team playing against the Sullivan Golden Arrows when Spike Kelly was there. Our series with the Arrows began in 1904 and Linton dominated the early years winning 15 of the first 19 games. As the article states, Coach Kelly came to Sullivan from Clinton in 1931, which BTW is my birth year. Clinton was also a Linton opponent in those early years. Linton defeated Sullivan and Coach Kelly in his first three years, the last being 27 - 0 in 1933 when, in the undefeated Wabash Valley Champion Miners only allowed 6 points all season. However, the tide turned in 1934 and Linton never defeated Sullivan again until 1945 when in the annual Armistice Day game, The undefeated Miners won 22-0 at Sullivan. That was after Spike had gone to South Bend Riley. I fondly remember that game as a HS freshman. The following year, the Miners opened the season against Kelly's No 1 ranked South Bend Riley team at South Bend. That was quite a trip from Southwestern Indiana to South Bend in those days. I went to the game as a member of the LHS band and along with the team, stayed overnight at South Bend. The game was a big deal for Linton and a great number of Miner fans made the trip. I recall there was a light rain throughout the game. Kelly's Riley team defeated the Miners 13 - 6. Along with the loss, Linton's all- state running back (he was called a halfback in those days) suffered a broken leg, ending his senior season. So, Spike Kelly's record was 10 - 3 against the Linton Miners.

So now we're blaming women for bad football? Looks like a new batch of spaghetti's ready to get flung at a wall.

The entire Cathedral football team and coaches attend mass the afternoon before every game they play in the fall. I would assume the other Catholic high schools probably do the same thing...but at Cathedral it is a big-time tradition.

This seems to speak to the idea that competitive balance for the state's football may not be the best answer for individual schools/programs and thus, contraction may actually hurt schools where the idea is not necessarily to win sectionals, but instead to provide enough funding to support their other sports.

I would venture to guess most of those Baseball games were frosh/C games.

Agreed..... Goliath

SCOTUS is saying either the federal lawmakers need to come up with a livable national law or it goes back to the states controls. Abortion is not a constitutional right. Since when is SCOTUS concerned about economics?

Not only will this guy vehemently deny that Cathedral boasts HUGE advantages over its public school counterparts, he will actually consistently double down and cite their supposed “huge disadvantage” usually in terms of enrollment. Someone should tell him, they are Goliath and not David. I’ve tried.

With all the ins, outs, and what have yous. Tough to keep straight in old Duder’s head. My interpretation is that there has never been a specific law providing for legal abortion. RvW prescribed a right to privacy between you and your doctor. If all that is true, what’s wrong with asking congress to pass a law and get the president to sign it. Or better yet, just allow the states to regulate it? I have an opinion, don’t care to debate it, don’t care to justify it, in general don’t even really care to discuss it. This is just another socially divisive issue and the R’s are too stupid to stay out of the fray. Murdock would have been the Senator from Indiana if he could just keep his mouth shut about abortion, and he couldn’t do it. I have paid pretty much zero attention to this leak, which was clearly politically motivated. Can we all just take a deep breath and wait to see what the court actually rules before we burn it down?

The MIC is falling apart

"Admins who are oftentimes MORE female"............not necessarily a woman.

Evidence of this? How many schools in the last 5 years have relegated to a JV schedule or completely contracted their football programs? If anything I see more and more schools offering football than ones voluntarily choosing to shut it down.

You still using Netscape as a web browser? 😄 Let us just say that this ship has sailed.

I could definitely see Greenwood try and get in the Hoosier Heritage IF Shelbyville leaves.

Let's just ignore that. HAHA

WeBo is already in the Sagamore and has been for a long time. It fits perfectly in with nearby rivals who are 3As and small 4As. It's a perfect fit and there's no real reason for them to go anywhere.

Which is why they need FBI or CIA informants to do it for them........................

If you think recruiting talent and stars are most important in a game - Roncalli might struggle against New Pal. Check out the offers their current group has. I will go on record. College recruiting rankings has little to do with who wins a HS football game.

And I'm still guessing Cathedral would have beaten Roncalli by 3+ scores any of the last two years and by more this coming year had they played. Roncalli isn't on the same stratosphere in overall talent as Cathedral.

What on Earth does that have to do with anything? Every single private school in Metro Indy has the ability to draw from the same 2 million people and theoretically so does every public school in Metro Indy with open enrollment. Cathedral is playing in 6A the next two years because they accumulated the necessary SF points to bump up now a second class. Please alert me when the IHSAA starts classifying schools by the desirability of one of its members athletic programs. Your comment last night about drawing from 2 million as a reason why Cathedral belongs in 6A can literally be applied to every other private school in the state, none of which I’ve seen you advocate for playing in 6A.

You’re kidding? More high end talent than Cathedral? Cathedral has had a starter in each of the last two national title games, has now 3 active NFL players with Doyle’s retirement but will soon have a 4th when Emil Ekiyor is drafted next Spring. Genuinely asking, does Roncalli have a single alumnus playing at a P5 school on scholarship right now?

Madison has a new turf field, brand new addition includes a state of the art weight room. I was down there for a softball game earlier in the season, Coach Wilson showed me around the new weight facility, impressive.

If I'm living somewhere in the Indy Metro with a kid who is a gifted football player and wanting him to go to a private school, then I'm sending him to Cathedral more than likely. Sure, I'll take a look at Roncalli and Chatard. But it all starts with the Irish. Kudos to that program for building it to where it is today. If Cathedral is producing the kind of athletes from only their student body and no kids enrolling there for football reasons, then they need to hold a strength and conditioning clinic for every Power Five football program in America. Again, not picking on them, just love seeing them rumble with the big boys in 6A. Because after all, they are a "big boy" when it comes to football. Easily a Top 5 program statewide, not sure why they would even want to play down a class. That's not challenging your program in my opinion.

Who told you Cathedral doesn’t have feeder schools? They aren’t a diocesan school per se, but make no mistake, they draw the same kids from the same schools year after year. Brebeuf is in the same boat as they aren’t a diocesan school either. This debate ended 10 years ago when Indianapolis and the surrounding counties went to open enrollment.

Cmon now

They have less kids than Roncalli and about 150 more than Brebeuf yet I’ve never once seen you make the argument that Roncalli or Brebeuf need to be in 6A despite being located in the same county with the ability to draw from the same “2 million people”.

An interesting slant on the debate, The author contends that, to date, the abortion debate has largely ignored important economic issues. https://michaelleppert.com/the-economics-of-roe-arent-being-discussed-enough/ THE ECONOMICS OF ROE AREN’T BEING DISCUSSED ENOUGH by Michael Leppert | May 13, 2022 | Politics/Government, Pop/Life I regularly tell my students these days, just like I used to regularly tell my clients, if you have an idea for a policy change in America, be prepared to successfully make your case purely on economic terms. In other words, trying to convince policy makers the change that is being proposed is simply the right thing to do usually won’t get the effort very far. Proponents for change need to show them the money. When government and politics in America get disconnected from this unwritten virtue, bad decisions are often made. We love to talk about our loyalty to freedom, the flag and the Constitution, but when it comes to change, real change, the dollar is king. This is how it should be. It is this component of public policy debates that make most issues, and virtually every newsworthy one, relevant to all of us. The abortion debate should be no different. There is plenty of data. It is easy to understand. But the loudness of the passions have prevented a rational economic dialogue from having the prominence it deserves. Oh, and one other big thing is keeping this discussion on the back burner: the court doesn’t care. Sheelah Kohatkar succinctly wrote about it on Wednesday in the New Yorker. “Whether and under what circumstances to become a mother is the single most economically important decision most women will make in their lifetimes,” says Caitlin Myers, an economist at Middlebury College, widely recognized as a leading scholar on this issue. But during oral argument before the U.S. Supreme Court last December in the Mississippi case, Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the discussion of the economic impact was cut off by Chief Justice John Roberts so he could discuss the fifteen-week deadline for an abortion, in which he seems so interested. The State of Mississippi makes the argument that the Roe v. Wade decision and the subsequent decision in Casey v. Planned Parenthood are no longer relevant. It argues that access to contraception, availability of child care, and the existence of family leave laws are the things that make the economics of the issue different today than they were fifty years ago. Myers and 153 other economists filed a brief in the case obliterating that shallow perspective. On contraception, in a 2019 report, the Guttmacher Institute reports that 45% of all pregnancies in America are unintended. This is in an era of great available and advanced contraception to which Mississippi refers. Most of those pregnancies were “wanted later,” while only 18% were unwanted. 42% of those pregnancies end in abortion. I’m sorry Justice Roberts and Mississippi, but that is “relevant.” The moral debate on the issue leaves few Americans without an opinion on the matter. But what parent is oblivious to the cost of their children? When 49% of abortions today are being performed on women at or below the poverty level, and an additional 26% being just above that line, the cost of those children to all of us is obvious and beyond debate. But the economic impact of and outlook on those women is the thing rarely discussed. Secretary of the Treasury, Janet Yellen, explained it in simple terms this week. Emily Peck reports for Axios that Yellen said eliminating a woman’s right to seek an abortion would have “very damaging effects on the economy and would set women back decades.” The proponents of these extreme bans in many of the states, including Indiana, lose the economic argument. They have had much of their success because the intensity of the moral debate has provided their vacuous economic one an inordinate amount of cover. The court is a great venue for this void–the court often doesn’t do economics. As much as we think politicians generally, and legislative bodies specifically, ignore the broad implications of their policies, they are designed to account for these things. The public often fails to hold them to account, but that’s just one of many failings for which we have no one else to blame. What the leaked opinion that was written by Justice Samuel Alito was predictably light on was the impact of his proposed decision. I’m betting that if pressed about it, the five justices who apparently support the overturning of Roe and Casey would give an answer that could easily be interpreted as “it’s not our responsibility.” It is a near-perfect storm of devastating consequences being made on behalf of the moral and political whims of the minority of Americans. It appears those who think it doesn’t matter to them are going to have to suffer until it does.

Center Grove-Cathedral Semi-State part deaux for Semi-State at Arlington in the snow is the game this board deserves.

Coaching at the HS level is a HUGE commitment. Not just for the coach but for his family as well. I loved coaching, I loved practices, being around kids, teaching, watching them develop, watching them become successful you adults. What I miss most are the relationships with the kids, I think being around kids keeps you young. I miss the alone time with just the coaching staff, after a game or practice, game planning, practice planning, sharing fellowship, etc. You just reach a point where it’s like why am I doing this? The last year I coached we started the season on a hot streak, we were like 10-0 and ranked like 8th in the state. I had to meet with a parent who’s kid had started and played in every game, because the parent was unhappy about where the kid was playing. Long story short, I’m missing my own kid’s pretty successful college career to coach, and the resounding question in my mind is why am I dealing with this crap? I made up my mind during another such parent meeting and turned my resignation that night. I have had multiple chances to coach since, and as much as I would love do it, particularly with some of the people who’ve asked, I know what comes with it, and just decline. Coaching is the toughest job you’ll ever love. Unrealistic expectations, why isn’t my kid playing, why is my kid playing OF instead of IF, the social media posts (though I never had much issues with that) the massive amount of time away from family and friends, it just stacks up and people get tired of it. It is concerning to me, we are losing good young coaches across the board in all sports. A little caveat, last Thursday I had the plate for a big conference game that had championship implications. It was the best game I’ve seen all season, pitchers duel, 0-0 thru 7 innings. I personally had a great game, yes as an official you know when you walk off the field. In short it was FUN, which ultimately is why I’m there. However, thanks to one of the coaches, who starts bitching about “presenting the ball” in the bottom of the first inning, which is not a term that has been in the rule book in the 20 or so years I’ve been involved. And since he can’t get any satisfaction out of me on his made up term, it sets the tone for the whole night and by the third inning, we’ve degenerated to arguing balls and strikes. He just sucked all the fun out of it for everyone. The opposing catcher even asked at one point, what is that guys problem? I’m not going to lie, and I have shared with some AD’s I don’t know what my future in officiating is at this point. I haven’t even made up my mind whether I’m doing Football this fall or not yet, but I can assure you this, dealing with assholes is making the decision for me. FYI, I had to stop the game in the bottom of the 8th with the visitors up 1-0 because of rain. I won’t get a chance to see how it turns out.

Gonna throw in MY answer.... Baseball: 38 Years (9 State Finals) Football: 22 Years (3 State Finals) And apparently I am now a "Senior" citizen.... 56, I guess I am OLD now. 😒

Sometimes my oldest son tests whether my own are a priority for me. Something about 16 year old boys that makes you think tigers eating their young might be on to something.

I’ll never not laugh at this and since the term “ghost gun” is in high rotation, enjoy the chuckle. For anyone who doesn’t know, you are able to build a firearm for personal use, it need not be serialized. You can not legally sell it. My guess is you are FAR more likely to find guns at crime scenes with serial numbers scratched off than not having any to begin with. To buy an 80% receiver, then do the work required to turn it into a functional firearm my guess is beyond the means or work ethic to be employed by many criminals.

Here’s one: An unvaccinated woman becomes pregnant. Her doctor tells her that her unvaccinated status presents a threat to the viability of the fetus. If she contracts the virus while pregnant there is a significantly enhanced risk of stillbirth. She refuses to be vaccinated. Her doctor contacts Child Protective Services, who ultimately files a lawsuit against the woman to require her to be vaccinated in order to protect the fetus. How does Judge Swordfish rule?

Dude you got a problem, I made an off the cuff remark.