XStar Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 https://www.wndu.com/2023/05/02/saint-joseph-hs-retire-indians-nickname-end-school-year/?fbclid=IwAR06HAAi454yCXwTJumWDsZUXoSNBRf7DhpoJsswepsFoHHDlC-JVB0FIAc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallCounty Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Can the Bishop Noll Warriors be far behind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Bobref said: Can the Bishop Noll Warriors be far behind? Hopefully not. The Catholic Church doesn't have a great track record with indigenous peoples. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, tango said: Hopefully not. The Catholic Church doesn't have a great track record with indigenous peoples. How do the Chatard “Trojans” get away with that? 🤣😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeqb Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Let’s stop all this small talk and get real. Call your state representative and let’s change the name of the state from Indiana to Indigenia. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASJCPUMA Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Well the local tribe has sent letters to every schools with an Indian nickname demanding a change. The forced a little town in Michigan to do it and then paid $ 300,000 to cover the cost. I am not surprised this happened. When the Tribe went to the media after the school announced the study it was doomed. A lot will depend on the diocese and the administration. SO they will do the process again of meetings and surveys and then pick a new name. Fr. Bly had told alumni for many years before his death that if the nickname was changed he wanted the "Rams". In his memory and honor I would say yes to that. Time will tell. But a Columbia Blue and WHite helmets like the Rams would be pretty sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Bobref said: How do the Chatard “Trojans” get away with that? 🤣😉 LOl. I've wondered that myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqbcoach1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I wonder how this will be received by bigger programs such as Anderson and Lake Central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Gipper said: I wonder how this will be received by bigger programs such as Anderson and Lake Central. I wouldn’t consider this precedent, necessarily. St. Joe made it clear that their “Catholic values” could no longer be squared with use of the “Indian” name. Anderson and LC don’t have that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Liver Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/2/2023 at 7:55 PM, oldtimeqb said: Let’s stop all this small talk and get real. Call your state representative and let’s change the name of the state from Indiana to Indigenia. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballhawk Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 15 hours ago, Bobref said: I wouldn’t consider this precedent, necessarily. St. Joe made it clear that their “Catholic values” could no longer be squared with use of the “Indian” name. Anderson and LC don’t have that issue. With some of the history between Catholic institutions and Native Americans, this makes sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Liver Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/2/2023 at 4:47 PM, Bobref said: Can the Bishop Noll Warriors be far behind? Or Calumet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeqb Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Can the Cathedral Fighting Irish be far behind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Goose Liver said: Or Calumet? Again, not a Catholic school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, oldtimeqb said: Can the Cathedral Fighting Irish be far behind? Different in my opinion. I'm not aware of the Catholic Church running assimilation schools (under the guise of missions) in Ireland the same way they did in North America and other places that contributed to the persecution of native people (culture, language, etc.). Plus, ND's mascot is the leprechaun (a fairy in Irish folklore) and not a depiction of a person from Ireland. Indian mascots are often based on inaccurate, derogatory and/or stereotypical representations. That's my soapbox for the day... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psaboy Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Need to do something with "Cavemen". That triggers me a bit. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqbcoach1 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, tango said: Different in my opinion. I'm not aware of the Catholic Church running assimilation schools (under the guise of missions) in Ireland the same way they did in North America and other places that contributed to the persecution of native people (culture, language, etc.). Plus, ND's mascot is the leprechaun (a fairy in Irish folklore) and not a depiction of a person from Ireland. Indian mascots are often based on inaccurate, derogatory and/or stereotypical representations. That's my soapbox for the day... Redskins I'll give you. Perfectly fine with that getting removed, that was the only derogatory one. Braves/Indians mascots should never be removed... there is nothing derogatory there. If so.... absolutely Irish, Quakers, etc need to be removed as they are just as offensive, as Braves/Indians are. Pendleton Heights? yeah you're giving your mascot name back too. Yankess+Texans, nope you gotta give yours up, as well. Cowboys.. you too. THE BOSTON CELTICS!! Can't have that. But we do live in a society that found Aunt Jemima+Uncle Ben offensive lol ... Land O Lakes butter--- HELL NO!!! Crazy, soft times we live in. 1 minute ago, psaboy said: Need to do something with "Cavemen". That triggers me a bit. Same! And the Nebraska Cornhuskers!! don't get me started there. The Floyd Central Highlanders, Minnesota Vikings are a few that sticks in my crawl. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 As a whiting oiler I’m scared the libs might go after us because of climate change, fossil fuel, pand carbon and all that crap 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Has this become the Nickname Hall of Fame 2.0? Will religious leaders find problems with Red and Blue Devils of Lowell, Pike, Richmond, Tipton, and West Lafayette? Even Pappy Gipper's Alma Mater was the Blue Devils before consolidating into South Newton and becoming the equally politically correct Rebels. I wonder if PETA will show up in Oxford sometime this fall to protest BC's Bison. They may also go after the Bronchos of Lafayette Jeff for the mere fact they can't properly spell it. Safe schools would include the Hanover Central Wildcats, Lawrence Central Bears, Rushville Lions, and Seymour Owls, The ancient worlds of Greece and Rome have been glorified, too as many schools have chosen Athenians, Spartans, Titans, and Trojans as their moniker. The Pendleton Heights Arabians would probably be on PETA's list as opposed to that race of people who seem to hate everything. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballhawk Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gipper said: Has this become the Nickname Hall of Fame 2.0? Will religious leaders find problems with Red and Blue Devils of Lowell, Pike, Richmond, Tipton, and West Lafayette? Even Pappy Gipper's Alma Mater was the Blue Devils before consolidating into South Newton and becoming the equally politically correct Rebels. I wonder if PETA will show up in Oxford sometime this fall to protest BC's Bison. They may also go after the Bronchos of Lafayette Jeff for the mere fact they can't properly spell it. Safe schools would include the Hanover Central Wildcats, Lawrence Central Bears, Rushville Lions, and Seymour Owls, The ancient worlds of Greece and Rome have been glorified, too as many schools have chosen Athenians, Spartans, Titans, and Trojans as their moniker. The Pendleton Heights Arabians would probably be on PETA's list as opposed to that race of people who seem to hate everything. I heard the NN Spartans were originally supposed to be the Yankees, but they backed off and settled for Spartans. I do understand the use of Indians if it is cartoonish or disparaging can be offensive, and Redskins is going a bit far. I would personally be more offended being called a Minuteman. That could get you a bad reputation! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ballhawk said: I heard the NN Spartans were originally supposed to be the Yankees, but they backed off and settled for Spartans. I do understand the use of Indians if it is cartoonish or disparaging can be offensive, and Redskins is going a bit far. I would personally be more offended being called a Minuteman. That could get you a bad reputation! I never knew that about NN--good thing they didn't. As an SN alumnus, I never really liked being a Rebel as I am much more fun-loving. But back to the topic--Minuteman: bad news... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XStar Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 Perhaps we should just go the route of the NFL Washington team when they were changing from the Redskins and switched to just being the "Washington Football Team" for a season. They were called exactly what they were. Their name shouldn't offend anyone although their play might have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, Gipper said: I never knew that about NN--good thing they didn't. As an SN alumnus, I never really liked being a Rebel as I am much more fun-loving. But back to the topic--Minuteman: bad news... Don’t understand why “Rebels” hasn’t been more of a target. Ask Roncalli. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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