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If the regular season is so meaningless, why are we all on here every week talking about that week's games?

I tried to take a crack one-man seeding committee, using Sagarin ratings, head-to-head matchups and other criteria a ratings committee might use. I would've pulled MaxPreps ratings in but I don't have unlimited time ;). This could be a fun exercise if we put a "seeding committee" together for each class. Anyway, here goes. Class 6A Sectional 1 Crown Point (8-0, 2-0 H2H) Lafayette Jeff (6-2, no H2H but has higher Sagarin than LC) Lake Central (4-4) Portage (1-7) Sectional 2 Carroll (8-0) Penn (6-2, has H2H win vs. Elkhart) Elkhart (7-1) Warsaw (6-2, has lowest Sagarin rating) Sectional 3 HSE (8-0, H2H win vs. Fishers) Fishers (5-3, higher Sagarin than Homestead) Homestead (4-4) Northrop (1-7) Sectional 4 Westfield (5-3, 2-0 vs. sectional) Carmel (5-3, no games vs. sectional). Can split hairs between them & Westfield Zionsville (4-4, H2H win vs. Noblesville) Noblesville (2-6, 0-2 vs. sectional) Sectional 5 Brownsburg (8-0, 2-0 vs. sectional) Ben Davis (5-3, 2-1 vs. sectional) Avon (1-7, has higher Sagarin) Pike (1-7, has lower Sagarin than Avon) Sectional 6 Cathedral (6-1, highest Sagarin) Lawrence Central (4-4, 2-0 vs. sectional) Lawrence North (3-5, 1-1 vs. sectional, lost to LC) North Central (0-8) Sectional 7 Warren Central (4-4, has played 7 6A schools, highest Sagarin) Perry Meridian (3-5, win vs. Southport) Tech (1-7) Southport (0-8) Sectional 8 Center Grove (7-1, 7-0 vs. 6A teams) Franklin Central (3-5, but significantly higher Sagarin, 3 wins vs. 6A) Columbus North (4-4, but only 1-0 vs. 4A, lower Sagarin than FC) Jeffersonville (1-6) Class 5A Sectional 9 Merrillville (7-1, 3-0 vs. 5A, highest Sagarin by far) Hammond Central (6-2, H2H win vs. Morton, higher Sagarin) Munster (3-5, H2H win vs. Morton) Hammond Morton (0-8) Sectional 10 (this one is really tough, but they all play H2H and all 3 - Chesterton, LaPorte and Mich City - have identical Duneland records) Valparaiso (5-3, only team with winning record, 3-0 vs. sectional) LaPorte (2-6, 2-1 H2H vs. sectional) Michigan City (2-6, 1-2 vs. sectional) Chesterton (3-5, but 0-3 vs. sectional and 5A. Does have two 6A wins. Has higher Sagarin than LaPorte & Mich City) Sectional 11 Mishawaka (7-1). 2-0 vs. sectional Concord (3-5) 1-1 vs. sectional, H2H win vs. Goshen SB Adams (1-7). Higher Sagarin than Goshen Goshen (2-6). 0-2 vs. sectional, lower Sagarin than Adams Sectional 12 FW Snider (7-1). 2-0 vs. sectional, has win vs. North Side FW North (6-2). 1-1 vs. sectional, has H2H win vs. Dwenger FW Dwenger (5-3) Anderson (3-5) Sectional 13 Harrison (7-1). Clear-cut #1 Plainfield (3-5) Has H2H win vs. Decatur Decatur Central (3-5) H2H loss vs. Plainfield McCutcheon (2-6) Sectional 14 Whiteland (7-1). Clear-cut #1 Franklin (6-2). Higher Sagarin, good record in tough conference TH South (5-3). H2H win vs. North TH North (2-6) Sectional 15 Bloomington South (6-1). Clear-cut #1 Bloomington North (4-4) H2H win vs. East Columbus East (4-4) H2H win vs. Seymour Seymour (6-2). H2H loss vs. East, lower Sagarin Sectional 16 Castle (5-3) H2H win vs. North Evansville North (4-4). Higher Sagarin Floyd Central (3-5). Has a 5A win New Albany (2-6). 0-4 vs. 5A teams, lowest Sagarin by far Class 4A Sectional 17 New Prairie (7-1). Best record, 3-0 vs. class, H2H win vs. Lowell Hobart (5-3) 4-0 vs. sectional, H2H wins vs. Culver, Lowell, KV, Highland Lowell (5-3). 2-2 vs. sectional. Wins vs. KV, Highland Gary West (6-2). 3-1 vs. 4A teams, 2-0 vs. sectional. Wins vs. Highland, EC Kankakee Valley (4-4). 0-2 vs. sectional Culver Academy (2-6). 0-1 vs. sectional Highland (2-6). Higher Sagarain than EC East Chicago (2-6). Sectional 18 NorthWood (8-0). 3-0 vs. sectional, unbeaten Northridge (5-3). 2-1 vs. sectional, H2H wins vs. Wawasee & Plymouth. Logansport (6-2). Better record but weaker schedule than Northridge SB Riley (5-3). 1-0 vs. sectional (vs. Washington) SBSJ (2-6). Higher Sagarin Wawasee (1-7). Higher Sagarin, has a sectional win (vs. Plymouth) SB Washington (2-6). Low Sagarin Plymouth (0-8). Winless Sectional 19 Columbia City (7-1). 4-0 vs. sectional, H2H wins vs. DeKalb, NH, EN, Leo Leo (5-3). H2H win vs. Angola (also NH, EN) Angola (6-2). H2H loss vs. Leo, win vs. EN New Haven (4-4). Higher Sagarain, H2H win vs. EN & DeKalb East Noble (3-5). H2H win vs. DeKalb, 1-3 vs. sectional DeKalb (3-5). These flip if Wayne wins & DeKalb loses this weekend FW Wayne (2-6). 1-0 vs. sectional (vs. South) FW South (0-8) Sectional 20 Kokomo (8-0) Western (5-3) Higher Sagarin than Miss Mississinewa (5-3) Muncie Central (3-5). 1-1 vs. sectional Huntington North (2-6) H2H win vs. Jay County Jay County (2-6) Frankfort (1-7) Marion (0-8) Sectional 21 Roncalli (7-1). Highest Sagarin Mooresville (6-2). Lower Sagarin than Brebeuf but better record vs. good schedule. Could flip based on weekend results. 2-0 vs. 4A Brebeuf (4-3). Good Sagarin, 0-1 vs. sectional, 1-1 vs. 4A. Lebanon (6-2). No games vs. sectional, 2-0 vs. 4A Northview (5-3). Lower Sagarin than Lebanon Attucks (5-2). H2H wins vs. Shortridge & Washington Shortridge (4-4) H2H win vs. Washington Indpls. Washington (1-7) Sectional 22 New Palestine (8-0). H2H wins vs. PH, G-C, NC, MV Mt. Vernon (5-3). H2H win vs. G-C, PH, NC Greenfield-Central (5-3). H2H win vs. PH Pendleton Heights (4-4). 1-3 vs. sectional (W vs. New Castle) Beech Grove (4-4). Higher Sagarin than New Castle. Connersville (4-4). 1-0 vs. sectional (Richmond) New Castle (2-6). Higher Sagarin & better record than Conn, but worse record Richmond (0-8) Sectional 23 East Central (7-1, highest Sagarin) Martinsville (6-2). 2-0 vs. sectional (BNL, Greenwood) BNL (4-4). 1 win in sectional (vs. JC). Has better record than GW despite lower Sagarin Jennings County (2-6). Higher Sagarin than SC/Shelby/Edgewood Greenwood (1-7) Tough schedule, higher Sagarin. Can flip them & JC Silver Creek (3-5) Lower Sag but better record than Shelby Shelbyville (1-7) Higher Sagarin than Edgewood Edgewood (1-7) Sectional 24 Evansville Reitz (8-0). 5-0 vs. sectional Jasper (5-3) 3-2 vs. sectional, H2H wins vs Memorial, Central, Bosse. Loss to Harrison Evansville Memorial (5-3). 3-2 vs. sectional. H2H loss to Jasper Boonville (6-2). Has not played a 4A team this year. 4th in sectional in Sagarin Evansville Harrison (2-6). H2H wins vs. Jasper, Central Evansville Bosse (1-7). H2H win vs. Centra Evansville Central (0-8) Class 3A Sectional 25 West Lafayette (8-0). 2-0 vs. sectional, has win vs. Harrison Calumet/Hanover Central (8-0). Play each other this weekend. Winner Calumet/Hanover Central (8-0). Loser Rensselaer (5-3). 1-1 vs. sectional (W vs. TL) River Forest (5-3). 1-2 vs. sectional (loss to Calumet, HC, W vs. BG) Griffith (3-5). H2H win vs. Boone Grove Boone Grove (3-5). 0-3 vs. sectional Twin Lakes (1-7) Sectional 26 Jimtown (6-2). 2-0 vs. sectional. Plays a lot of larger schools Knox (5-3). 1-point loss to LaVille, tops in Sagarin West Noble (6-2). 2-0 vs. sectional, Fairfield & Lakeland (7-6) Fairfield (5-3). 1-1 vs. sectional, win vs. Lakeland Lakeland (3-5). Higher in Sagarin than Marian Mishawaka Marian (2-6). Mostly 4A/5A schedule, higher than Glenn in Sag Glenn (4-4). 1-2 vs. sectional, win vs. Clay SB Clay (0-8) Sectional 27 Norwell (8-0). 2-0 vs. sectional (Bellmont, Heritage) Yorktown (6-2). Higher Sagarin, plays mostly 4A schedule Heritage (5-3). 2-1 vs. sectional (Woodlan, Belmont) Delta (3-5). Win vs. Columbia City. Plays mostly 4A schedule Woodlan (4-4). 0-1 vs. sectional. Low Sagarin (7th in sectional) FW Concordia (3-5). Plays mostly 4A/5A schedule Garrett (1-7). Decent Sagarin, 0-0 vs. sectional, 1-2 vs. 3A Bellmont (0-8) Sectional 28 Indianapolis Chatard (5-3). Highest Sagarin by far despite record Oak Hill (8-0). Higher Sagarin than TV Tippecanoe Valley (8-0). 2-0 vs. sectional (Peru, Maconaquah) Guerin Catholic (4-4). Tough schedule, 3rd in sectional in Sagarin Hamilton Heights (6-2). 1-0 vs. sectional (Northwestern) Maconaquah (6-2). 1-1 vs. sectional (W Peru, L TV) Peru (2-6). Northwestern (1-7) Sectional 29 Tri-West (6-2). 4-0 vs. sectional (WeBo, Danville, NM, Crawfordsville) Western Boone (7-1). 3-1 vs. sectional (H2H loss to TW) Speedway (5-3). 3rd in sectional in Sagarin. Danville (3-5)/North Montgomery (4-4) winner Danville/North Montgomery loser Monrovia (2-6). 0-1 vs. sectional. Higher Sagarin than CV Crawfordsville (2-6) Purdue Poly (3-5). Lower Sag than Monrovia, CV Sectional 30 Gibson Southern (8-0). Champs until knocked off Owen Valley (8-0). 1-0 vs. 4A Vincennes (4-4) Mt. Vernon (P) (4-4). Ower Sag than Vincennes Washington (2-6). H2H wins vs. Pike Central, Princeton, higher Sag West Vigo (3-5) Pike Central (1-7) Princeton (0-8) Sectional 31 Lawrenceburg (7-1)/South Dearborn (7-1) winner Lawrenceburg (7-1)/South Dearborn (7-1) loser Indian Creek (6-2). H2H win vs. Batesville Batesville (4-4). 3 wins vs. sectional (Rushville, Greensburg, FC) Centerville (6-2). Plays mostly 1A/2A schedule Franklin County (2-6). 2 wins vs. sectional Greensburg/Rushville winner (both 2-6) Greensburg/Rushville loser (both 2-6) Sectional 32 Southridge (7-1). Highest Sagarin by far Charlestown (7-1). 4-0 vs. sectional, H2H W vs. NH North Harrison (6-2). 3-1 vs. sectional Heritage Hills (4-4). 2nd in Sagarin, 0-1 vs. sectional (Southridge) Madison (4-4). Higher Sagarin than Corydon Corydon (3-5). 2-2 vs. sectional, wins vs. Scottsburg, Salem Salem (2-6) h2H win vs. Scottsburg Scottsburg (2-6) 0-4 vs. sectional Class 2A Sectional 33 LaVille (8-0). Higher Sagarin, unbeaten Andrean (6-2). Slightly lower Sagarin than LaVille Bremen (4-4). HIgher Sagarin Whiting (3-4). 1-0 vs. sectional (win vs. Wheeler) Wheeler (3-5). 1-1 vs. sectional, win vs. Noll Lake Station (3-5). 1-0 vs. sectional, win vs. Noll, lower Sag than Wheeler Hammond Noll (0-7) Sectional 34 Lafayette Catholic (6-2). 2-0 vs. sectional (Seeger, BC) Rochester (7-1). Lower Sag than LCC Cass (5-3). 1-0 vs. sectional (BC) Seeger (6-2). 0-2 vs. sectional (Ls LCC, BC) Benton Central (3-5). 2-2 vs. sectional (Delphi, Seeger) Delphi (4-4). 0-1 vs. sectional Winamac (2-6) Sectional 35 Eastside (6-2). 3-0 vs. sectional (Busco, PH, CN) Churubusco (6-2). 2-1 vs. sectional, H2H loss vs. Eastside FW Luers (4-4) 3rd in sectional in Sag Central Noble (2-6). H2H win vs. PH, losses to Busco, Eastside Prairie Heights (2-6). H2H win vs. Whitko Wabash (2-6). 7th in Sagarin, H2H win vs. Manchester Manchester (1-7). H2H win vs. Whitko Whitko (0-8) Sectional 36 Alexandria (5-3). 4-0 vs. sectional (Blackford, Eastbrook, Elwood, Frankton) Eastbrook (6-2). H2H loss vs. Alex Eastern (Greentown). Behind Eastbrook in Sag Bluffton (4-4). 3rd in Sag in sectional Frankton (2-6) 2-2 vs. sectional (Elwood, H2H win vs. Tipton) Tipton (3-5). 1-1 vs. Sectional (Elwood) Blackford (1-7) Elwood (0-8) Sectional 37 Linton (8-0) Southmont (6-2). 1-0 vs. sectional (NP) Sullivan (4-4). 3-1 vs. sectional (SV, Greencastle, NK) South Vermillion (6-2). 0-1 vs. sectional (Sullivan) Cascade (4-4). 4th in sectional in Sag Greencastle (4-4)/North Knox (3-5) (GC if it beats North Putnam) North Knox (3-5)/North Putnam (3-5) (NP if it wins Friday) North Putnam/Greencastle Sectional 38 Heritage Christian (5-3). Not as good of a record, but better schedule & Sagarin. 3-0 vs. sectional Northeastern (7-1). 3-0 vs. sectional (UC, Winchester, Shenandoah) Lapel (4-4). 1-1 vs. sectional Shenandoah (4-4). 1-3 vs. sectional (losses to 3 teams ahead of them) Eastern Hancock (3-5) Winchester (3-5) - low Sagarin, but 1-1 vs. sectional (beat Union County) Union County (4-4) Ritter (1-6) Sectional 39 Scecina (7-1). Beat TC H2H Triton Central (6-2). Has highest Sagarin of field Brownstown (5-3), winning record, 3rd best Sagarin Clarksville (3-5). Sagarin substantially better than rest of field Switzerland County (4-4) Eastern (Pekin) (1-7) Manual (3-5) Very weak schedule Brown County (0-8) Sectional 40 Evansville Mater Dei (6-2). Plays 5A schedule, has very good Sagarin Perry Central (7-1). 4-0 vs. sectional (TC, FP, CC, Paoli) North Posey (6-2). 2-0 vs. sectional (TC, FP) Paoli (6-2). 2-1 vs. sectional (CC, Mitchell, loss to PC) Tell City (2-6). Actually has higher Sagarin that Paoli Forest Park (1-7) Mitchell (1-7) Crawford County (0-8) Class A Sectional 41 North Judson (7-1). Good Sagarin, 2-0 vs. sectional Triton (5-3). 3-1 vs. sectional (Culver, Pioneer, SC, oss to NJ) Culver (5-3) 2-2 vs. sectional (Ws SC, Pioneer; Ls Triton, NJ) South Newton (5-3). 2-0 vs. sectional (NN, SC) Pioneer (2-6). 0-2 vs. sectional Bowman Academy (3-4) South Central (1-7) North Newton (0-7) Sectional 42 Park Tudor (5-3). 1-0 vs. sectional (TP). Good Sagarin North Vermillion (5-3). 3-0 vs sect (Covington, Attica, FC) Clinton Prairie (5-3). 1-0 vs. sectional (CC) Traders Point (4-4). Decent schedule, 0-1 vs. sectional Fountain Central (2-6). 2-1 vs. sectional (Ws Attica, Covington) Covington (3-5). Lost to Fountain Central Clinton Central (0-8). Higher sagarin than Attica Attica (0-8) Sectional 43 Carroll (Flora) (8-0). 3-0 vs. sectional West Central (7-1). 3-0 vs. sectional (Caston, TC, Frontier) Frontier (4-4). 2-1 vs. sectional (def NW H2H, TC, lost to WC) North White (5-2). 3-1 vs. sectional (Ws Taylor, Caston TC; L Frontier) Tri-Central (2-6). Close w/NW & Frontier in Sagarin. Lost to Carroll, beat Taylor Taylor (1-7) Tri-County (1-7) Caston (0-8) - if any of these three win this weekend, they jump to #6 Sectional 44 Adams Central (8-0). Clear #1 South Adams (6-2). 2nd highest Sagarin Madison-Grant (6-2). 1-0 vs. sectional (SW) Southwood (6-2) 2-0 vs. sectional (NM, Northfield) Northfield (4-4). 0-1 vs. sectional (Southwood) North Miami (3-5) Fremont (2-6) Southern Wells (0-8) - this sectional follows Sagarin Sectional 45 Sheridan (7-1). Clear #1 in Sagarin, 5-0 vs. Class A Monroe Central (5-2). Clear #2 in Sagarin, wins vs. UC, Wes-Del Hagerstown (5-3). Win vs. Union City Indiana Deaf (6-1). Can flip w/Hagerstown based on weekend results Union City (2-6). 0-2 vs. sectional, 2-3 vs. Class A Wes-Del (1-7). Win over Tindley, 1-4 vs. Class A Indianapolis Tindley (1-7). 0-4 vs. Class A Sectional 46 North Decatur (8-0). Clear-cut #1 in Sagarin. Tri (7-1). Lone loss to 3A Centerville. 5-0 vs. Class A Milan (3-5). 3-4 vs. schools in larger classes Edinburgh (4-3). Close with Milan. H2H win vs. SD South Decatur (4-4). Low Sagarin, 0-2 vs. sectional (ND, Edinburgh) Knightstown (1-6). Win over CCL Cambridge City Lincoln (0-8) Sectional 47 Indianapolis Lutheran (8-0). Clear #1 South Putnam (7-1). Clear #2. 6-1 vs. larger classes Covenant Christian (5-3). Solid schedule. #3 in Sagarin Riverton Parke (6-2). H2H win over Parke Heritage North Central (Farmersburg) 1-6. Higher Sagarin Parke Heritage (1-7). Higher Sagarin than Cloverdale Cloverdale (1-7). Lowest Sagarin. Sectional 48 Tecumseh (8-0). Highest Sagarin, 2-0 vs. sectional (SV, ND) Providence (6-1). 5-1 vs. higher classes. 2nd in Sagarin North Daviess (5-3). 1-1 vs. sectional (w/vs EG) West Washington (5-2). Better record & H2H win vs. SV Springs Valley (4-4). 1-2 vs. sectional South Spencer (4-4). Could put 4-5-6 in a blender Eastern Greene (1-7)

I don't think anyone is saying there will be a perfect system in any format - but what seeding does allow that the "blind draw" does not is giving credence to a good regular season. The regular season should mean SOMETHING. Wrestling coaches have figured this out for years. You establish a criteria, and stick with it. Will there be some grumblings about who got the #1 or who got the #5...sure, but it sure as heck beats the alternative of having 1-8 playing 1-8 while 2 unbeaten play in the 1st round. And anyone who can't see that is just being stubborn. Which brings me to my last point in all of this - unfortunately the IHSAA isn't going to take any action without the nudging of the IFCA...and unfortunately half of the coaches in the State won't support seeding, because they are hoping for that 2-7 vs. 1-8 and to be able to "sneak" into the 2nd round or Championship. Which, to me, is too bad.

I do find the discussion somewhat interesting as I've never seen anything close to a groundswell of support FROM THE PLAYERS about regular season games not meaning anything. It might be a fan issue, but of the various players that I've known over the years in Indiana, I've not ever heard of complaints about the regular season games not meaning anything. The smell on the bus? Check. The long drive into another timezone? Check. The small visiting locker room with one working toilet? Check. Not getting cheese on the Subway sandwiches on the ride even though their parents paid for cheese? Check. Horrible fields? Check. Too hot? Check. Too cold? Check. Regular season games not meaning something? Not so much.

Good. The next step would be to then implement a qualifying format. If Hammond Noll has to lose 100-0 at the expense of keeping teams like Ben Davis and Brownsburg on opposite ends of the bracket then so be it. People in charge need to wake up. Here is how archaic the all-in format is. Ben Davis is going to win the MIC outright after going 5-0 when they inevitably beat North Central by 40+ points. Ben Davis' reward for winning arguably the 2nd toughest conference in the state is a date with the #1 ranked team in Indiana, Brownsburg, in the first round. That same North Central team who went 0-9 in the regular season has an easier first round sectional matchup than Ben Davis, a team who went undefeated in conference play and won the conference outright. Or how about this. Brownsburg and HSE are going to finish 1-2 in the HCC, the toughest conference in the state. Brownsburg is going to play Ben Davis, a top 10 rated Sagarin team. Meanwhile, Avon who is currently 1-7 and in last place of said conference draws 1-8 Pike. How on Earth does that happen? Anyone who thinks that is acceptable or seriously thinks the regular season has true, inherent meaning needs their heads examined. PLEASE MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!

Reading this thread, it is of my opinion, people whom are opposed to the all in format are those individuals whom want to watch "good" football games and be entertained. I think if there could be a poll sent to every kid playing football...those kids playing for not so "good" teams would vote for the all in format. On the other side, I think those kids playing for "good" teams, would vote against the all in format. For the most part, most kids playing football know they are never going to make it far into the postseason and just love playing football. The all in format allows for those kids whom will never put pads on again after high school to play another game. They dont care if everyone thinks and knows they are going to lose...they just like playing the game. Why would kids play for teams that dont win a single game one year, stay on the team for the next year...because they love playing football. In my opinion, those individual whom are against half of the teams in the State not being eligable for post season...are kinda of just being selfish. Football is an awsome sport to play...not just watch. Let the kids play...the best teams will work themselves out in sectionals...if the 1 / 2 teams play first...who cares...if they truely are the best, they would have to play one another eventually anyway. Just my two cents.

This is great, thanks for taking the time to put this together in a thoughtful, well reasoned way. Worst case, perhaps, is maybe a small, small number of teams that are one-off for whatever intangible reason. Perfection is not a realistic outcome in a complex seeding scenario, but something like this is darn close. Overall, this could certainly be sorted out with about 8 or so smart people putting their heads together over a few short hours the Saturday afternoon after week 9. Remotely. With computers. Over the interwebs. However, the obvious fallacy to this entire exercise is that it clearly can work. And THAT, sir, will NOT do for the IHSAA. Just keep your ping-pong balls polished and make do like it's still 1985 and put the top four best teams on one side of the bracket and the bottom four worst teams on the other side like God Himself intended. Now, pardon me while I go reserve my seat for the thriller of a Sectional 30 final that would be a running clock in the first half if it were allowed. It doesn't matter which two teams meet, the result will be the same. But hey, at least 2-7 Washington will be able to hang that 2022-23 Sectional Finalist banner in the gym this winter (no offense Hatchets, but y'all gotta admit S30 is a f'g travesty). Seriously though, this is great. Thanks again for compiling this!

Kokomo, Jeff meet in Week 9 clash Andrew Smith GridironDigest.com The Kokomo Wildkats are one of 23 teams chasing an unbeaten regular season this week. The Lafayette Jeff Bronchos stand in the way. Two of the North Central Conference’s premier programs meet this Friday at Lafayette Jeff, with the Wildkats seeking at least a piece of the NCC title and the Bronchos looking to play spoiler and build more momentum going into sectional play. Class 4A No. 4 Kokomo is 6-0 in the NCC, as is 5A No. 6 Harrison, which plays winless Richmond this week. Due to the league’s rotation of opponents, the two don’t play each other this year, so they could share the title as unbeatens in conference play. Jeff, which is 5-1 in league play and 6-2 overall with losses to Indianapolis Cathedral and Harrison, is a formidable foe that has won five straight meetings with the Wildkats. It’s also a solid tune-up for sectional play. “Games like this week are fun to play in,” Kokomo coach Austin Colby said. “You don’t get meaningful game with these kinds of implications every week. Starting week 10 in the tournament, every game has massive implications that come with getting beat. So to be able to get into that mindset early and to prepare the way you are supposed to helps.” “Kokomo will be playing for a championship on Friday, and we are hoping to play the role of the spoiler,” Jeff coach Pat Shanley added. “It is great to have a game Week 9 against an extremely well-coached and senior-laden team as we prepare for the playoffs. We know that no matter the outcome of this contest, that this game and this opponent will help further prepare us for the postseason.” Kokomo has had a strong recent football tradition. The Wildkats posted three unbeaten regular seasons under Colby’s father, Brett, most recently in 2015. Two years later, they were the 5A state runner-up. Kokomo is competing in Class 4A this season for the first time. Austin returned to his alma mater in 2020 and led them to 4-4 and 8-3 seasons. “Not many coaches get that opportunity to coach back home and then to have success on top of that is very special,” Colby said. “ My dad had a lot of success here and I got to be a part of it playing and coaching for him. So to carry on the legacy has been a dream of mine all along. To be compared to his success means you are doing something right. It is also special to have him and my brother on the sidelines each Friday night.” This year’s Wildkat squad is keyed by a powerful running game - the double-tight, double-wing offense spreads the ball around to multiple backs. Junior Darrian Story has run for 774 yards, senior Keegan Name 620 and senior quarterback Evan Barker 610. They’ve combined for 28 touchdowns on the ground, running behind a line Colby says “has so much camaraderie and unselfishess as a group.” Defensively, the Wildkats are allowing eight points per game and have held six of their eight opponents below 10 points, including two shutouts. Their biggest win so far was a 14-0 victory over 6-2 Logansport in Week 3, shutting down an offense that’s scoring 34 ppg. It’s led by returning All-State linebacker Shayne Spear, as well as linebakers Jaquan East and Tracy Dowling. Up front, 6-6 Brandon Bennett leads a strong defensive line. “We have had exceptional play on the defensive side of the ball,” Colby said. “Returning seven starters on that side of the ball has helped us in understanding the expectations and how we need to execute at a high level each night and each week in order to be successful. “ Lafayette Jeff has also been a top team under Shanley, who is in his seventh season. The Bronchos posted undefeated regular seasons in 2017, 2019 and 2020 and are 57-15 under his tutelage. The Bronchos are one of the state’s top-scoring teams, tallying 45.8 ppg, led by quarterback Ethan Smith, who stepped into the starting role in Week 5 and is completing 79 percent of his passes for 748 yards and 10 touchdowns. Asa Koeppen (21-461), Abram Ritchie (19-375) and Brandon Jackson (18-247) are all weapons in the receiving game. “Ethan Smith is a true champion,” Shanley said. “Throughout the off-season, he prepared week to week as if he was going to be the starter, despite knowing that he could not play until Week 5. When Keyen (Crowder) was starting Weeks 1-4, Ethan was dialed into everything that was taking place both during practice and in-game. Because of this, he has hit the ground running within our offense. This week will be another great test for Ethan and our offense.” Northeast 8 title on the line as Eagles, Knights meet Conference championships will be decided all over the state this week, but one of the more intriguing matchups comes in the Northeast 8 Conference, where 7-1 Columbia City visits 8-0 Norwell. Both teams are 6-0 in conference play and seeking to win the trophy in a league that’s been dominated by Leo and East Noble in recent years. Columbia City is ranked No. 9 in Class 4A, Norwell No. 4 in Class 3A. “This Friday is going to be electric,” Columbia City coach Brett Fox said. “To have the last game of the season decide a conference title is a dream for any team. The atmosphere will be unreal and we will have to play a great game to come out on top.” “It's going to be a lot of fun,” Norwell coach Josh Gerber added. “Coach Fox and his staff at Columbia City have a really nice team. They have gotten better with each week. It should be a great environment Friday. That big game atmosphere should help us with big games in the tournament.” Norwell is led by a defense that’s allowed just four touchdowns all season. The Knights have posted five shutouts, including last week’s 56-0 victory at Huntington North. They had three straight shutouts of Heritage, Leo and Bellmont earlier in the season. Senior Luke Graft has five sacks and 10 tackles for loss. Senior Brody Bolyn has 12.5 tackles for loss and three sacks, while senior Aydan Rusu has 63 tackles and 10.5 for loss. “Our defense has been lights out,” Gerber said. “Matt Taylor, our defensive coordinator, does a great job of developing a game plan every week. We play an aggressive attacking style of defense, and our kids love it. Aydan, Luke and Brody are guys that set the tone for us with attitude and effort. We're lucky to have those guys. They want to be the best defense in the state. Hopefully, that success can continue for a while.” Norwell’s offense has been incredibly balanced, led by senior QB Lleyton Bailey, who has thrown for 722 yards. Graft, his younger brother Drew Graft, Drew Ringger and Timothy Bonjour all have at least 300 rushing yards. When Gerber took over in 2016, the Knights were coming off a 1-9 season. After a few building seasons, things began to turn in 2019 when the Knights went 5-6. They’ve since gone 10-2, 11-2 and now 8-0. A year ago, they won their first sectional since 2014. Now, they seek their first conference title since 2009. “It has taken the hard work of a lot of people,” Gerber said. “I'm biased, but I think we have the best coaching staff in the state. We have a supportive administration and community. I also get to coach a great group of kids every day. We have focused on building our feeder program in hopes of being a program that can win consistently. It hasn't been easy, but we are now starting to see the fruits of our labor. Having a lot of talent really helps too.” Columbia City is in the midst of its best season since 2010, when the Eagles went 10-2. After a week 2 loss to Delta, the Eagles rolled up back-to-back shutouts to open conference play, beating Bellmont 49-0 and Huntington North 41-0. They scored 40-plus points in their first five conference games before a 28-13 victory over Leo last week, putting them in a spot to play for the NE8 title. “I am extremely proud of how our team has played up to this point,” Fox said. “It's really fun having a different person step up each week and lead us offensively and defensively. The guys are playing for each other and really putting together a nice season.” Senior Colten Pieper leads the offense with 865 passing yards - 545 to Stratton Fuller. The Eagles are spreading the ball around on the ground, averaging 405 yards per game of total offense. Four backs - senior Justice Goree, junior James Getts, senior Ethan Sievers and senior Josh Arntz - tally between 325 and 600 yards on the ground. “Colten has done a great job of just being himself, trusting his teammates in situations, and just playing with confidence,” Fox said. “Stratton is a dangerous player and having him on our side just makes us a better team.The offensive line has been playing great with us averaging over 300 yards rushing a game. Having six guys rotating on offensive line, five of them seniors and the sixth a junior, allows us to be aggressive on offense.” Defensively, Fuller has four interceptions. Dominic Chacon leads the defense with 54 tackles, while Arntz has 48 stops and seven TFLs. South Putnam facing No. 1, then No. 1 again The Class A No. 6 South Putnam Eagles will see a No. 1 team this week - and then do it again next week. The Eagles close the regular season with a home game against 2A No. 1 Linton, which is their final tune-up before next week’s Sectional 47 opener at Class A No. 1 Indianapolis Lutheran, the defending state champion. “We love the challenge of playing the No. 1 team in 2A and then the No. 1 team in 1A,” Eagles coach Chuck Sorrell said. “We knew that Linton would be a tough game when we signed up to play them. We have to play physical. They are a very physical team and they have a lot of talent. Coach (Brian) Oliver does a great job of getting his teams ready to play. It will be a fun and exciting night at Wildman Stadium. Two ranked teams, both with the same goals of winning a state championship.” Linton is 8-0 and scoring 51 ppg, led by senior dual-threat QB Hunter Gennicks, who is a 1,000-yard passer and rusher this season. Oliver will be seeking his 100th career victory at the helm of the Miners this week. He has led the Miners to a state title in 2016, a state runner-up appearance in 2015 and a regional title in 2013. A year ago, the Miners went unbeaten in the regular season, then dropped a 28-27 decision to eventual 2A runner-up Evansville Mater Dei in the sectional semifinal. South Putnam comes into the game with a 7-1 mark - the lone blemish a 57-34 loss to unbeaten 3A No. 8 Owen Valley in Week 2 - and is coming off an impressive 49-20 victory at Heritage Christian, which was ranked in Class 2A. “We talked all week about going to someone else's neighborhood and being able to win the fight,” Sorrell said. “We had the best week of practice that we have had in my four years here. We talk every day about earning respect. Our goal was to get off the bus and be completely focused and ready to play.” Sophomore QB Wyatt Mullin has thrown for more than 1,100 yards, running an uptempo, no-huddle offense that is scoring 52 ppg. Senior RB Luke Switzer is closing in on the 1,000-yard mark rushing, while sophomore Wyatt Switzer and junior Drew Hill are the top receivers, both with more than 20 catches. Seniors Ethan Harcourt and Brock Heavin lead a talented offensive line. “When we installed this offense this summer, we wanted to get all of our skill players involved,” Sorrel said. “We have had multiple games where five or more players have scored touchdowns. We go into each game with the mentality that we will run power and counter with Luke Switer and Peyton Crickmore and screens to Wyatt Switzer and Drew Hill. Once that is established we are able to take a few chances down field to Zach Dorsett and Logan Tomaw.” Both teams have great football traditions. Linton has won 14 sectional and 10 regional titles in its history. South Putnam has 12 sectional and six regional titles. Both teams have a state championship trophy in the case - South Putnam’s from 1986, Linton’s from 2016. That success breeds success. “South Putnam is a football community,” Sorrel said. “Everyone that stands along the fence on Friday nights played here. Most of the kids that play for us, their families played for us. They want to win and all of our programs from first grade up through varsity win. While a lot of programs are struggling to increase the number of kids playing football, every level of football here the numbers increased.” Top 6As to face off It’s not the Final Four, but for the second time this season, the top four teams in Class 6A meet on the same weekend, as No. 1 Brownsburg travels to No. 4 Hamilton Southeastern with the Hoosier Crossroads Conference title on the line. Both teams are 8-0. Meanwhile, No. 3 Cathedral (6-1) travels to No. 2 Center Grove (7-1) in their annual Week 9 game. The teams have met annually in Week 9 since 2014, and every game but two has been decided by one score. Last year, CG won 21-6. Both have won back-to-back state titles: Center Grove in 6A, Cathedral in 5A. The Irish are back in Class 6A due to the IHSAA’s Tournament Success Factor. Tourney time The IHSAA drew the pairings for the upcoming state tournament Sunday. Classes A-4A will all begin Friday, Oct. 21 with seven and eight-team sectional fields. Classes 5A and 6A, because they have 32 teams each, will have a bye week and kick off their four-team sectional tournaments Friday, Oct. 28. Indianapolis Lutheran (Class A), Andrean (Class 2A), Indianapolis Chatard (Class 3A), Mt. Vernon (Fortville) (Class 4A) and Center Grove (Class 6A) will look to defend their titles. There will be a new champion in 5A as Indianapolis Cathedral is now in 6A. Other Week 9 games to watch 6A No. 5 Carroll (Fort Wayne) (8-0) at Fort Wayne Wayne (2-6) Lawrence Central (4-4) at 6A No. 7 Carmel (5-3) 6A No. 10 Elkhart (7-1) at 4A No. 8 New Prairie (7-1) 2A No. 8 Fort Wayne Luers (4-4) at 5A No. 1 Fort Wayne Snider (7-1) 5A No. 2 Merrillville (7-1) at Chesterton (3-5) 5A No. 5 Bloomington South (6-1) at Seymour (6-2) 5A No. 9 Valparaiso (5-3) at Lake Central (4-4) Delta (3-5) at 4A No. 1 New Palestine (8-0) 4A No. 2 Roncalli (7-1) at 4A No. 3 East Central (7-1) 4A No. 6 Evansville Reitz (8-0) at 2A No. 4 Evansville Mater Dei (6-2) Mt. Vernon (Fortville) (5-3) at Yorktown (6-2) 3A No. 1 West Lafayette (8-0) at Western (5-3) 3A No. 2 Gibson Southern (8-0) at Boonville (6-2) 3A No. 3 Indianapolis Chatard (5-3) at Cincinnati Elder 3A No. 5 Western Boone (7-1) at Lebanon (6-2) 3A No. 6 Hanover Central (8-0) at Calumet (8-0) 3A No. 7 Lawrenceburg (7-1) at South Dearborn (7-1) Southmont (6-2) at 3A No. 10 Tri-West (6-2) Lowell (5-3) at 2A No. 2 Anderan (6-2) 2A No. 3 LaVille (8-0) at Culver (5-3) 2A No. 6 Lafayette Central Catholic (6-2) at Hamilton Heights (6-2) Speedway (5-3) at 2A No. 7 Triton Central (6-2) 2A No. 9 Eastbrook (6-2) at Mississinewa (5-3) 2A No. 10 Eastside (6-2) at Angola (6-2) Rochester (7-1) at Maconaquah (6-2) Traders Point Christian (4-4) at 1A No. 1 Indianapolis Lutheran (8-0) 1A No.2 Adams Central (8-0) at Woodlan (4-4) 1A No. 10 Sheridan (7-1) at 1A No. 4 Carroll (Flora) (8-0)

Look, FootballKing cares in no way what anyone says to refute what he is saying. In his mind, nothing that is said means anything to him that is against his opinion. Period. Doesn’t mean he is right or that I or anyone else agrees with him, he just wants to be right. Fine, live your dream. I will live in reality, which is 100% different than what you are saying. Your scenario will not happen anytime soon. The sport is about the kids who play the game, not you, not me, hell, not even the fans. Guess what? Thousands upon thousands of fans will go to the games and support their teams and the product that is offered.

Frankly, I wasn't talking to you and I was presenting a PLAYER perspective as opposed to an online-forum fan perspective, so I'm not quite sure why I have to change your mind about something that I wasn't talking about in the first place. Also, it won't matter what is being presented because it doesn't agree with what YOUR IDEA is, so it will be wrong. As a dad and a coach of youth players for many years, I want different things for my kids and players than many other folks may want. So be it. My players and my kids were often urged to weigh their accomplishments against themselves and not necessarily by what the scoreboards said or by the W-L column. It was a mantra of our programs that the scoreboard could say that you won by three TDs, but you didn't win if you didn't do your best and played a sloppy game. By contrast, you could have lost the game, but gave it 100% and executed to the best of your ability and gained from it. It may not be entertaining for all of the sports fans of Indiana, but it worked for our kids and players. I've seen two decades plus of Indiana football and, as I stated before, can say that the vast majority OF PLAYERS would not agree that their regular seasons count for nothing ... even if you added the words "come the post season."

I mean seriously, two conference champions (Brownsburg and Ben Davis) aren’t going to win a tournament game while two bottom feeder teams (Pike and Avon) are going to play for a sectional championship. And the regular season (and winning a conference championship) actually has meaning? GTFOH

Think how many more people you could annoy with the interest generated by multiple “quasi-playoff” games every week!

Right. Missing it by 2 places. Maybe if they beat 2-6 Noblesville this week and the stars align they could still make it! To @Bobref's point, they would be playing a meaningful regular season game.

North at Central Central is on the verge of getting their first winless season since 1985. Can’t do much to avoid that with North and Reitz coming up. Give me the Huskies in a running clock Bosse at Harrison Should be a pretty decent matchup between these 2, as they usually fight off until the final minute. I think this is going to be a fun one overall watching Harrison’s QB Brown and Bosse’s QB Wagner going at it. However, give me the Warriors by 12 Vincennes at Jasper Lots of good matchups this rivalry weekend including this one. Jasper is rolling right now winning 3 straight and peaking at the right time, that squad loves to RTDB. Vincennes, on the other hand, has faced back to back losses to North and Memorial. But they have the tools in place to make this a game. Give me the the Wildcats by 10, as they carry their momentum Castle at Memorial Enlow Field. Kickoff temperature around 60 degrees and wind. Nothing better than that. Seems like Castle has been mixing up QBs lately with Bishop starting against Jasper/Central and RB McCool has been excellent replacing Guerizini. Now the question is that will Castle DL be able to handle Memorial’s OL. Memorial has been able to overcome from 2 early season losses and his position itself for a chance at 2nd place (just like Castle). With a strong backfield and trio of receivers, the Offense has been a lot better recently. Will be interesting to see how the Defense will do against another Dual threat QB tomorrow night and a solid RB. I have a feeling this one will go back and forth, but give me the Tigers late by 7. Game of the Week. Reitz “at” Mater Dei This game has been circled since the beginning of offseason, whether it was the final game for the Conference Championship or the rich tradition between the teams. Mater Dei has made a pretty good regular season, as they have high hopes in the postseason. With an Offense led by senior QB Wunderlich who is inching to get back to the 2A State Finals, has plenty to throw too in the receiving core. Lots of solid/veteran players in the defensive front too, with Adler, Martin, Darr, and more. Reitz has been a very amazing team so far this season winning the SIAC outright and being 8-0. Reitz Offense has been stellar with QBs of Davies/Vera and an excellent receiving core with Summers/Thomas. Not to mention the massive OL, that has made lanes for RB Burnett to lead the SIAC in rushing. However, that Defense is dominant and will wear a team down very quick with their speed. With one of the quickest DL in the SIAC with Oxley, Utley, and Brantley. Mater Dei will be able to play Reitz pretty close in my opinion. However, the amount of 2-way players maybe their downfall in this one. Whereas Reitz only has a couple and plentiful in the depth too. Mater Dei keeps it close until the 3rd quarter, but Reitz will pull this out in 4th quarter and wins this one by 16.

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Liking the Sec 34 draw... Lcc gets a recovery game from HHeights w Winamac... then a challenge w the Kings .. then a date w the Zebras in the final... if still standing... a road trip for the 1st ever mtg w the 59ers.... nice

Correct. Won't happen because it would lead to the qualifier format due to all the lopsided games. BUT seeding 1 and 2 is easily done and would not lead to wholesale changes with the current format.

It will be a very good matchup.

Meaningless for who?

Definitely could say that looking at it from their perspective. I was looking at it from the viewpoint that GS is the defending champ and is many people's (including myself) pick to win 3A South. Just felt that the draw had higher stakes for them. Still expect them to get through.

Yorktown is solid. Moulton is a very good QB and Nanko does everything. Thomas is a homerun hitter in the backfield. I can see them making some noise in the tourney, although Norwell is going to be a very tough out in the sectional. I'm glad to see them having a good year. They're the smallest school in the HHC by a good bit and it's always a bit tough to compete with some of the larger schools just because they don't have the numbers, but Mike Wilhelm is one of my favorite people in football and he's a heck of a coach, even if the record doesn't always reflect that because they're the smallest school in every game they play in the regular season.

How much better is it as college football fan of say a school like Kansas right now? Historically awful program that up until last week was undefeated and ranked in the top 25? Think how cool it would be for an historically awful football program in the state of Indiana to play in actual meaningful regular season games that were building blocks to qualifying for a coveted playoff spot? Imagine a team that regularly starts 0-4, 0-5 starting off 3-0 or 4-0 with a light at the end of the tunnel. And not just for the players and coaches, but for the students, the fans, and the whole community?

Who I am is the worst kept secret on this board! Brian Personett.

Speaking facts isn’t making excuses. If you want to talk to me, then meet me. I’ll meet you directly. A lot of people want to know who you are anyways.

Currently, every game in the regular season is an opportunity to improve because every team has a chance to win a game or two in the tournament, depending on their draw. My team has been consistently poor, and in 80% of their seasons they would be eliminated halfway through. But the players on the team how have something to play for right up until the last game. And coaches have something to coach toward.

Wait a minute. They have nothing to play for in weeks 6-9 now, if you’re talking about games that have meaning in reference to post-season participation. For that matter, you can say the same thing about weeks 1-5.

Honestly, after watching Yorktown give NP a first half challenge (admittedly that was probably the worst first half of ball we played all year) I was shocked to see them lose to GC. I still expect them to give MV a challenge and possibly pull out a win.

Geez dude, you just can’t help yourself can you? I had a nice conversation with JC’s AD earlier in the season at a JV game. He told me of several injuries they were fighting at the time. Injuries happen in sports, how many kids was JC playing without? Sometimes you just get beat. At which time you congratulate the winners and move on to next week and get back to work. First it was the multiple coaching staffs at FC, then it was the players, now it’s injuries. If you are this famous person that everyone knows and respects in Floyd Knobs, giving pep talks to the team, I would hope you’d just support the school and quit making excuses and degrading every other school.

Most likely one of the only schools that responded to his questionnaires he sent to coaches. He had a thread last year mentioning hottest junior linemen and failed to mention any of the high profile lineman at a certain south side Catholic school. When I called him out on it, he blamed the coach for not supporting his players and replying to a questionnaire that he emailed. That’s not “reporting”, that’s writing PR pieces for schools.

Ok double that then for hypothetical sake, although I know that number isn’t near as high as I have been tracking it since 2015. 62 sectional winners out of 1680 sectionals is still 3%. It’s a statistical anomaly. This idea that a 1-8, 2-7 team is going to somehow turn it on in week 10 because they’ve been given new life is a literal fallacy. Sure, there have been a few teams like Cathedral or Luers or Roncalli who play above their class/competition during the regular season who go on runs but those teams are entirely better than their record suggest. Bottom half Sagarin teams beating top half Sagarin teams come tournament time are extremely rare to begin with and bottom half teams making it out of sectionals are even rarer, unless it’s aided by playing a bunch of other bottom half Sagarin rated teams.

I would think if coaches had an idea of 2-3 teams who they might play, getting final confirmation on Saturday/Sunday for the next Friday would be ok. Gone are the days of meeting an opposing coach in a truck stop or McDonald's parking lot to trade VHS tapes. A few clicks, and film can shared digitally. It's not much different for some regionals and semi-states already. Team A can win Friday night and have to wait until Saturday night to know which team wins the other regional/semi state.

I understand - but the topic is Penn vs. Carroll so I'm a little confused. I only brought up Cathedral and St. X when pointing out that I feel like the Kingsmen are not getting the credit they deserve with their 6-2 record and transitioning my post to the Penn/Carroll matchup.

DT's somewhat notorious for throwing a lot of spaghetti against the wall, and if two of the 20 strands he throws sticks, he calls himself an expert.

@Titan32 and @Titan76 in the PAC 2022 thread this week (and perhaps others, if you look hard enough...) 😂

Good win for JC. A healthy Floyd Central team wins that game pretty easily.

Yep.

So here's my two cents for this final week of the regular season . . . Caston at Knox LaVille at Culver Pioneer at North Judson Winamac at Triton Congratulations to the Lancers on their first-ever Hoosier North Athletic Conference Championship. Well deserved for Coach Hostrawser and the Lancer Football team. Keep the change as always, the game is better from_the_sidelines007

As I stated in another thread, this is exactly why you let all in…

@Stoner Good work....thanks for posting that. I think there are flaws to ANY system that requires qualifying for the playoffs. The IHSAA under Bobby Cox, in my opinion was way ahead of the game in going the all in path. That said, I am curious though...and just playing devil's advocate with this; so please don't take this as me attacking the post. Looking at a number of teams on the list where the season ended with a sectional title, how many of their playoff wins were against teams who were ranked similarly or lower in Sagarin's algorithm? Just as an example of my question, "1995 Lapel (1A Sectional Champs), Sagarin Class Rank 39th of 54, Ranked 3rd in Sectional" With either 7 or 8 teams in a given sectional at that time, how many teams did Lapel play that were ranked lower than them?

DC definitely got the best draw in this sectional getting McCutcheon. In a sectional where 3 of the 4 teams are pretty evenly matched, drawing the weakest team is for sure a positive, similar to North Side getting Anderson while Snider and Dwenger play again. I'm interested to see who will come out of this sectional, as you said it's a lot more open than what people thought at the beginning of the year. To be honest if the two teams are going to have to play each other either way I don't see the difference in round 1 vs sectional championship other than semantics.

Let's be honest. They have arguably the best coach in the state and 6A talent playing at 4A. Nobody in 4A is going to want to see them in the playoffs. Per 247: Senior Class: 6'7 OT committed to Louisville 6'1 WR committed to Ball State Junior Class: 6'5 OL with at least 20 Power 5 offers Sophomore Class: 6'2 DL with an offer from Tennessee listed. I'm sure there are other offers that aren't reported in 247. Outside of the above list I'm sure they have at least 5 guys (likely more) who will/could play at various levels of college.

I’ve spoken with the coaches and the players. I’m a well known person in the community. I won’t disclose what any of them have told me. But I’ll tell you what I told them. I told coach Bragg, that I do support him as Head Coach, but I want to see this program get to a good level. He understands that. And I was told things behind the scenes, which again, was between me and him. I like coach Bragg. Really good guy. I know that he’s working hard, and that’s what I want. What I talked to their players about was accountability and pride. Being leaders. I know our community better then anyone in this thread. Better then most. And I know that our players have to have some of the responsibility for the results. It’s not entirely on the coaches or the players. They all need to get on the same page and make it work. I had to learn the lesson of instead of just whining and complaining on a message board, to actually try to do something to help and that’s what I’m doing. I’m available to anyone in that program for anything. If coach Bragg needs me to give a pep talk, do advance scouting, or anything helpful, he’s got my help.

finals are the catholics vs evsc all stars

Snider has had better teams last 3-4 years that still haven’t gotten out of sectionals 😂 hearing from snider fans this team is good but nothing compared to last few years. But it’s okay. It will all be put to rest in 3-4 weeks

Can we the digits of the last mom? Asking for a friend.

The older I get, the more I realize all-in necessitates the blind draw. Seeded sectionals with all-in would result in dozens of first round games like this one. At least in a blind draw, Pike Central can draw Washington rather than both of those teams getting blown out by Vincennes and Gibson Southern. (sectional 30)

Who would win in a Snider/Carroll rematch is debatable. With RB1 in the game, these teams are dead even. Maybe a slight advantage to Carroll. North Side was playing catch up the entire game. Not sure how you came up with "should have beaten." They'll get their chance again in the tournament and possibly prove you right.

The NCAA men’s basketball tournament let’s everyone in postseason play and is widely regarded as the best tournament in all of sports,March Madness!!! There have been countless upsets every year by teams that have stunk it up during the regular season only to make great runs in their conference tournament and even win a national title. Villanova and North Carolina State easily come to mind to start and every year there are other teams that make this tournament great. And yes, had not Villanova and NC State not won their conference tourney they would NOT made the field… Carry on

Nope. No chance. But I believe Caston - who is 0-8, believes they have a chance to beat 7-1 West Central in their sectional opener. Their game on August 19 was an 18 point loss, Caston's closest game of the season. I think Caston's football team is probably pretty excited about playing that game!