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I personally love watching spread offenses. WW runs exclusively from shotgun and still had a 2000 yard rusher 2 years ago. Last year was more balanced but still run 1st. WW ran a wishbone when I was in HS. I prefer the spread. If you prefer the other then I dont think it's wrong. Just enjoy the game. I dont think this is an RPO hate thread as it is a passing game hate thread. I enjoy balanced. Just as some dont wanna watch 70 passes I dont wanna watch 70 runs. But also as stated in original post indiana has a ton of guys ready for D1 in the OL....but maybe that's because they are quicker, leaner more spread oriented guys. Would the ratings be as high if looking for 330 pound road graders?

Not only did you whine about it, you pinned it, then whined when it got unpinned. Which of course turned into a giant pissing contest....much like you’re trying to bait me into here.

That's pretty short sighted and shows your lack of understanding of football and offensive concepts

Is this thread only anti-RPO but also anti spread, tempo, read option? Many offenses are a combination of old school counter and power blocking schemes with a more modern mix of formations. I don't think 11 men in a phone both is necessary harder to defend than getting formationed to death...or any more entertaining.

It's fun to watch DT on here talking about football "scheme" when he has no clue what he is talking about. A) "The drive blocking and pass protection skills of big linemen are mitigated in these schemes. Lots of standing around and then their involvement in the action is very limited." - DT RPO scheme is a pass option + a real running play. Usually with a read by the QB of a single defender to give him an answer of what to do with the ball. Your comment about big lineman standing around is ridiculous and proof you don't know what you are looking at. The run play can be a gap scheme, zone scheme, counter of some sort, or even a draw. Either way these are a teams regular run plays and most teams run them the same way whether there is a throw option tagged to it or not. So if I'm running inside zone with a bubble concept and reading the Apex defender, my OLine better be blocking inside zone and getting off the ball driving their fight like its a run play only. (I realize I'm probably over your head DT, but this is the most basic RPO teams run). B) You obviously aren't as in touch with high school football in Indiana as you think. Yes, as a whole the state may be having more D1 lineman than the past, but that doesn't mean they are everywhere. An RPO is a way to PROTECT your run game whether you have good lineman or not. If there is the threat of an option of a receiver open in space, you can take a run defender out of the run fit defensively with that threat alone. Example - defense aggressive backside LB that is stopping the cutback on our bread and butter Inside Zone run. You could add a hitch in behind that LB with a TE or Slot, QB reads the LB. If LB flys towards the run, throw the easy hitch where he was. This protects your run game later. Or that is the goal anyway. C) This is traditional option football (not far off from Bart Curtis triple option), just with a different look. QB puts the ball in the belly of RB and reads a defender. Based on defender he will have the OPTION to 1) give the ball to the RB 2) keep it and run 3) throw (like a pitch in triple option) to a receiver..... sound familiar? D) Most High School QBs in general can't handle reading a whole defense on the fly. Why not make it easier on your QB by giving him a simple read and react situation? Hence why coaches like the RPO - can be easy to teach D) I could go on and on. I do understand you not liking this particular scheme, that's completely acceptable and logical. Just have a clue what you are talking about before you get on here (wishful thinking...)

But if you whine enough, Coach Nowlin will give you eleventy billion upvotes!

No desire to. Besides, that's YOUR playground.

Why should the oil industry get welfare?

Although Texas does have many good players, Georgia and Florida should not be ignored, California either.

Although the eye candy may have been a little out of line, I’m not some dirty old man posting junk here as I’m not that old...

Don't confuse DT with facts. It doesn't fit his narrative. I looked up data from last year for comparison purposes. I picked the same week for both states and used 6A for Texas and 6A/5A for Indiana. Here is what I found. Texas (92 games) - average score is 39-16 with 22% the winner scored more than 50 Indiana (44 games) - average score is 35-15 with 14% the winner scored more than 50 Colder weather could have kept down some of the scores, but it general those are pretty similar numbers.

I get that; neither statement answered my question though. But, based on your logic, you are saying we SHOULD be listening to Dr. Fauci then, who said we need further testing, research, etc. before approving this drug for this treatment, since he IS an expert in the field and NOT to President Trump, since he is not an expert, right?

Already pointed out the fallacy in your numbers using the Top 50. There are 13 of 23 at one school ... BTW 23 is less than half of 50, so it's not close to a "high majority." About the best you could be saying about that is that University of Texas plays lackluster ball. Even then, in 2018 they were #15 in the CFS final ranking. Even looking at last year, where Texas finished 8-5, Texas lost to National Champion, LSU, by 7 points, eventual #4 OU by 7 points, eventual #7 Baylor by 14 points, and then routed #11 Utah 38-10. Of the other places where the top 50 went, again, in the Big 12, two programs were in the Top 10 last season, and as pointed out, two of the last three years, the #1 draft pick for the NFL came out of that league and, in the two years, Texas split a pair of games with that team with the difference being no more than a TD in both games. Your initial post was ... It didn't specify Top 50, but a presentation of both Top 50 and the full numbers indicate that the idea that somehow Texas athletes suffer competitiveness because they make up a chunk of players in the Big 12 again isn't born out by the numbers. So whether we're talking Top 50 or Texas athletes at FBS in general, the attempt to somehow or another undermine the competitiveness of Texas athletes isn't born out by the numbers.

Notice the very top of the article is labeled in large print "Opinion". I have seen "opinions" on a lot of topics that have been published; from both sides. So, what exactly in the article is inaccurate? IF this treatment does work; awesome. But the comparisons to people who have been treated with it to those who were not are not overwhelmingly convincing. If we reach a point where there is no doubt, awesome. I really do hope this does work in the long run, especially since I am in a higher risk group. The one concern the article did raise is that people who need the drug for treatment of Lupus, are being left short of the supply they need because so many others have chosen to self medicate with it.

Here is the most important language in the story: “it was posted at medRxiv, an online server for medical articles, before undergoing peer review by other researchers.”(emphasis supplied) One of the key principles of scientific research is that results aren’t valid unless they can be reproduced in other trials. Until then, any conclusions are premature.

It's possible that half are staying in state, but they aren't playing in the Big 12. You do realize that only four teams in the state of Texas play in the Big 12? And Baylor finished Top 10 this past season and Texas finished Top 15 the season before. There are 12 Division I FBS teams in Texas ... only four are in the Big 12. In 2019, roughly just shy of 2,000 Texans played FBS ball in the whole country. 423 of these played in the Big 12 and that's across ALL of the Big 12 teams. So the idea that somehow half are staying in state and that somehow translates into that half all playing in the Big 12 is just not supported by the facts. It's a tad under 22%. Of those 423, 42 of them are on the Sooner squad ... a team that has been #4 in the country the last two seasons in FCS final ranking and has produced 2 of the last 3 #1 draft picks for the NFL. 66 of Baylor's players in 2019 were Texas players. That means 108 of 423 Big 12 players played on teams that placed Top 10 last season. Again, the premise doesn't fit the numbers. You can slight the Big 12 all you want, but again, the players from Texas, which you are claiming play non-competitive level of play play on teams that have been Top 25. Incidentally, Texas has produced the last three #1 draft choices for the NFL. And guess where two of those played college ball? In the Big 12. The 3rd stayed in state, but played for A&M in the SEC.

There are PLENTY of ways to stop RPOs. Any D-coordinator worth his weight has a plan for RPOs. Don't blame the offensive coordinators and the RPO because you have a old school defensive coordinator who wants to sit in a 46 cover 3 and get picked apart all game. They deserve to get beat 50-0. Which of course you would say they should just eliminate their program at that point.

As I learned a long time ago, early 60's, if you don't have offensive lineman in any type of offense you are not going to be successful. In any game you watch in person or tv watch the offensive linemen. They either block at the point of attack, pass block, or are down field. Bill Siderewicz, Chris Geesman, Dale Hummer, and Joe Burvan (HOF coaching staff at Rensselaer when I played) made it known as the offensive line goes so goes our team. During that time we saw the robust T, Pro I, double wing, and wing T. Even today's RPO system has to have OL to win at a high level. When I watched state finals and bowl games last year it was the teams with offensive lineman that won. Enough said.

Although linemen are vitally important, the real warriors, Kickers and Punters are being ignored which is sad.

Not sure about the communism part of the comment, but he's right that allowing up to 3 yards for lineman to be legal does make it more difficult for defenses. The reason is the defense (and officials) read run/pass based on what the linemen do. If they drive block it's generally a run read. If their first step is back it's generally a pass read. The defenders will then cover the play accordingly. With RPO, the linemen will block initially as if it's a run and the defenders will adjust their coverage/movement as if it's a run play. RPO is designed to take advantage of that. NFL allows no downfield (or maybe 1 yard) so it's a different situation there. The QB is still reading a defender to determine which option he'll use, but the linemen are much more limited in what they can do. I've never thought of RPO as high scoring. That's more of the spread, hurry up offenses. Some may run RPO but they aren't the same thing. From an officiating standpoint, I'll make two points. First, this is very difficult to officiate because someone has to be able to watch two different things (the location of the lineman and the status of the ball) at the same time and they usually don't occur near each other. If one official knows where the linemen are and another one knows the pass was thrown, that information can't be combined to determine if a foul occurred. There are techniques that can help the umpire and/or wing officials try to cover both, but it takes a lot of practice and could happen at the expense of missing something else (i.e. holding). Second, it's not missed as often as people think. They see the receiver catching a pass 6 yards downfield with a lineman next to him or beyond him and think, "how could they miss that." It's important to understand the rule. It's a foul based on the location of the lineman at the time the pass is RELEASED. Earlier in my career I would make the incorrect assumption this lineman I see downfield has to be illegal. Then I would watch the video to confirm my call and realize the lineman was only a yard to two downfield when the pass was released! I've changed my approach to only call it if I know the lineman was downfield too far before the pass was thrown (HS is 2 yards, NCAA is 3 yards). Based on video review I've almost always been correct, but it has taken many years of practice. Officials at the B1G level are pretty good at it so it's not wrong nearly as often as Fitz thinks it is. At the HS level with varying levels of skills of officials it's probably much more inconsistent.

I LOVE RPO!!!! RUN POWER OFTEN!!! Sign me up

A little over the top

Who would have ever thought that the wishbone and the full house would be described as “exciting “ and “a refresher?”

TDS

Agreed, RPO schemes should be banned in traditional 11-man Indiana high school tackle football. Let the scoring is everything zealots take it to to their 8-man football "game".

Jimmy's and Joe's beat X's and O's.

I believe DT explained that in his initial post. Go back and read it.

Frankly I question whether you know how to play chess at all.

Will Pandemic Jobless Benefits Make Recovery Harder?: https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/will-pandemic-jobless-benefits-make-recovery-harder/?itm_campaign=headline-testing-will-pandemic-jobless-benefits-make-recovery-harder&itm_medium=headline&itm_source=nationalreview&itm_content=This Provision Might Be Making the Unemployment Problem Worse&itm_term=This Provision Might Be Making the Unemployment Problem Worse Yep, you will see thousands if not ten of thousands of individuals quit their jobs so they can qualify for this sweet, sweet increase in their pay for four months, all courtesy of the federal government. And this they are hooked, and we have still another generation of Americans living off of the public dole.

More than one, less than one million. Yes, if by "contamination" you mean the fear that too many workers in the food industry or transportation industry would become ill and no longer able to work. I have a close friend who works at the Frito-Lay facility in Frankfort, the 2nd largest facility Frito-Lay owns in the country. No layoff there. Normally this time of year is somewhat a slow period for them. Not so now, they can't keep up with demand for the products they make. I don't know, depends on the employer. I'm sure there is something in the newly passed "stimulus" bill (largest spending boondoggle in American history BTW, passed by an unrecorded voice vote) to address this, right? Don't know about you, but I'm ok with that notion. I'm sure there will be scientific rational applied behind such decision, don't you?

Are There Fiscal Conservatives in a Pandemic? The Club for Growth Says It Doesn't Matter.: https://reason.com/2020/04/02/are-there-fiscal-conservatives-in-a-pandemic-the-club-for-growth-says-it-doesnt-matter/

So what line of work makes you such an "essential" employee? Apparently I don't qualify: https://www.cnet.com/how-to/coronavirus-unemployment-payments-applying-and-more/ Besides, am currently still working, and I don't accept government handouts. My spouse and I have enough financial liquidity to easily last for the next 6 months or so. Do you?

Coronageddon: iKrpowQ - Imgur.mp4

You drive a truck, or maintain/repair them. Or you are a janitor. Close?

Then please, enlighten us on some of the specifics on why your current occupation makes you "essential".

I thought so.

Mature, real mature. Then again I expect nothing less from someone like yourself. I was actually paid you a compliment in a post yesterday. I now rescind that. Not going anywhere.

Ahhh, must have hit a mark.

You ARE NOT THE MODERATOR. Quit trying to be one.

Sounds like it takes a very specific and highly trained skill set. And what specifically is that job? What can I say. You fascinate me.

How Long Can an All-Food Economy Stay Stable Under Shadow of COVID-19?: https://reason.com/2020/04/02/how-long-can-an-all-food-economy-stay-stable-under-shadow-of-covid-19/

Clinton County Commissioners threaten to ban all travel within their domain: https://clintoncountydailynews.com/commissioners-urge-everyone-to-follow-essential-travel-rules/ Yeah, I'm sure these Commissioners are all staying at home as well. One of them, Mr. Scott Shoemaker, is the acting Frankfort City Chief of Police. Is he running his department from home?

The anti-competitive Jones Act isn't just about the oil industry, Dante. You need to educate yourself. Why do you think all major Cruise Lines are headquartered outside of the U.S, yet the majority of their customers are U.S. citizens?

https://mises.org/wire/federal-government-owns-92-percent-student-loans-why-do-politicians-lie-about-it This is a bad bill, and as the author states it's just a revenue making shell-game to completely nationalize all of higher education. I heartily encourage all of you to contact your duly-elected representatives and express your displeasure with this bill, and urge your representative to replace it with a bill that would cancel all federal-backed student loans and shut down the the federal loan program entirely.

https://www.cato.org/blog/jones-act-waiver-being-considered-bolster-flagging-oil-sector Once can only hope. The antiquated Jones Act is just one of many law/regulations that should be waived, then repealed entirely.