6A Tournament Discussion

[Justasportsfan]

27 minutes ago, BTF said:

 

 Snider more than likely won't come through with their enrollment numbers. 

If you build it...they will come..the stadium being on campus will be a magnet for alum n with open enrollment the talent may surprise us..the feeder system is strong with Blackhawk winning city again..some of those former panthers who are southwest are already making travel arrangements..just need to have a gr8 4 year run of talent n it could happen as long as tippy stays..

[Bash Riprock]

5 minutes ago, BTF said:

It's been the Carmel, Ben Davis, Warren Central show for obvious reasons. Center Grove is the only program that's been able to break through. The landscape of the HCC is pretty damn good, but until one of them breaks through, they're no different than Crown Point or Carroll. 

May not be able to keep including Carmel in your example soon....5 years since a state title appearance.  Heck, they haven't made it out of the sectional 4 years in a row.  

Been 6 years since Warren has been to state.  Maybe that changes this year.  

[GOLDRUSH1985]

10 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

May not be able to keep including Carmel in your example soon....5 years since a state title appearance.  Heck, they haven't made it out of the sectional 4 years in a row.  

Been 6 years since Warren has been to state.  Maybe that changes this year.  

After Friday , only 1 of the big 4 remain . It could happen this year . 

[BTF]

17 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

May not be able to keep including Carmel in your example soon....5 years since a state title appearance.  Heck, they haven't made it out of the sectional 4 years in a row.  

Been 6 years since Warren has been to state.  Maybe that changes this year.  

Right, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that those four have owned big division football. 

[BTF]

24 minutes ago, Justasportsfan said:

If you build it...they will come..the stadium being on campus will be a magnet for alum n with open enrollment the talent may surprise us..the feeder system is strong with Blackhawk winning city again..some of those former panthers who are southwest are already making travel arrangements..just need to have a gr8 4 year run of talent n it could happen as long as tippy stays..

At the end of the day, it's the transfer portal that's going to put teams over the top. Even the large schools are doing it. Warren Central, Elkhart, Crown Point, etc. Now, that being said, I'm never a believer in poaching another high school's players. But I wouldn't hesitate to do it at the middle school level in order to remain competitive. 

[Bash Riprock]

8 minutes ago, BTF said:

Right, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that those four have owned big division football. 

True...just saying based off the past 5 years or so, perhaps there is some turn in the tide.....

[BTF]

Just now, Bash Riprock said:

True...just saying based off the past 5 years or so, perhaps there is some turn in the tide.....

Agree to an extent. But it's hard to argue that Ben Davis, Warren Central (teetering), and Center Grove aren't still right there. I'd say the #4 program right now is a fight between Brownsburg, Westfield, and Crown Point. 

[Tippy]

The last time that a team from far northwest Indiana won state in the largest class, was Portage in 1977.  Merrillville won state in 1976 and Valpo won state in 1975.   

[Boilernation]

25 minutes ago, Tippy said:

The last time that a team from far northwest Indiana won state in the largest class, was Portage in 1977.  Merrillville won state in 1976 and Valpo won state in 1975.   

DAC! DAC! DAC! DAC! 

[Bash Riprock]

1 hour ago, BTF said:

Agree to an extent. But it's hard to argue that Ben Davis, Warren Central (teetering), and Center Grove aren't still right there. I'd say the #4 program right now is a fight between Brownsburg, Westfield, and Crown Point. 

I simply mentioned the last 5-6 years for Carmel and Warren.  Its hard to deny results.  Warren has improved this year and could reverse their trends.  I didn't mention anything about BD or CG.

[temptation]

We have spent enough time on here criticizing Crown Point.  Let's not deflect from the fact that the HCC still folds annually in the playoffs and not let them off the hook.  They have 3 of the 8 teams remaining in 6A but that number could be down to 1 after Friday night.

 

[BDGiant93]

2 hours ago, temptation said:

My most controversial point was that I had Ben Davis as my preseason #1...yuck, lol.

 

Don't feel bad. I think we all thought the season would go better for BD than it started out. I had no idea they'd struggle as much as they did early. They got it together, but it was too late for the record to be saved.

[Yuccaguy]

2 hours ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

Everyone asks when will a true North team breakthrough for a 6A title . I want to know when anyone not named Carmel , Center Grove , Ben Davis or Warren Central will win a 6A title .

THAT'S my point!   

Why someone would think is about a specific school, is beyond me?  

Dammit, I'd like a NORTHERN school to win the damned thing....SOON!  

[Rodney]

12 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said:

THAT'S my point!   

Why someone would think is about a specific school, is beyond me?  

Dammit, I'd like a NORTHERN school to win the damned thing....SOON!  

don't worry, you must be behind the news, but the mic is dead and its been an all hcc show for 3 or 4 years now.

[temptation]

Temp’s Live Betting Odds:

Lawrence North - 3/1

Westfield - 3/1

Brownsburg - 4/1

Center Grove - 6/1

Crown Point - 10/1

Warren Central - 10/1

Fishers - 12/1

Carroll (Fort Wayne) - 20/1

[BTF]

2 minutes ago, temptation said:

 

Temp’s Live Betting Odds:

Lawrence North - 3/1

Westfield - 3/1

Brownsburg - 4/1

Center Grove - 6/1

Crown Point - 10/1

Warren Central - 10/1

Fishers - 12/1

Carroll (Fort Wayne) - 20/1

No respect for Crown Point. Or did you just do that to bait me?

[temptation]

2 minutes ago, BTF said:

No respect for Crown Point. Or did you just do that to bait me?

They were also 10/1 last week.  Win over Penn didn’t move the needle.  I might be willing to negotiate them at 8/1.

Feel like they could be walking into a hornet’s nest at Westfield if chalk holds this weekend.

[BTF]

2 minutes ago, temptation said:

They were also 10/1 last week.  Win over Penn didn’t move the needle.  I might be willing to negotiate them at 8/1.

Feel like they could be walking into a hornet’s nest at Westfield if chalk holds this weekend.

I'll put $100 on CP. You're paying out $1000?

 

[temptation]

11 minutes ago, BTF said:

I'll put $100 on CP. You're paying out $1000?

 

Sure.  

[BTF]

Just now, temptation said:

Sure.  

 

PM me where to send the check.

[Rodney]

27 minutes ago, BTF said:

No respect for Crown Point. Or did you just do that to bait me?

we just had someone post about how nobody from the northwest has been able to compete since the 70s

and CP went to lucas oil and ran into a buzzsaw just 1y ago.

 

10/1 is generous

 

 

that said im rooting for them to win so that i can start claiming that the hcc is dead and the dac is the primary 6a conference

Edited November 13, 2024 by Rodney

[temptation]

11 minutes ago, Rodney said:

we just had someone post about how nobody from the northwest has been able to compete since the 70s

and CP went to lucas oil and ran into a buzzsaw just 1y ago.

 

10/1 is generous

 

 

that said im rooting for them to win so that i can start claiming that the hcc is dead and the dac is the primary 6a conference

Rodney rarely misses.  I need to know how many points you’d give Crown Point in a potential semi-state matchup at Westfield?

[Yuccaguy]

21 minutes ago, temptation said:

Sure.  

 

19 minutes ago, BTF said:

 

PM me where to send the check.

Send the Check to the GID !  

Or keep being "blowhards"

[BTF]

7 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said:

 

Send the Check to the GID !  

Or keep being "blowhards"

Lol, thanks for the tip. 

[Boilernation]

23 minutes ago, Rodney said:

we just had someone post about how nobody from the northwest has been able to compete since the 70s

and CP went to lucas oil and ran into a buzzsaw just 1y ago.

 

10/1 is generous

 

 

that said im rooting for them to win so that i can start claiming that the hcc is dead and the dac is the primary 6a conference

Plus it will really kill Parkhurst if Crown Point, Valpo and Andrean can all win Titles throughout the recent era of him predicting a Merrillville title nearly every year. Admittedly, even as a DAC apologist, I'd probably pull for the South in 5A out of spite if the Pirates make it.