Basementbias Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, foxbat said: At least WeBo will be in 3A. 😀 Yeah one positive and at least 4 negatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeqb Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, crimsonace1 said: Somewhat surprised by Merrillville possibly moving down. They are a state contender in 5A. When all is said and done, I would expect Evansville North to be in 5A - their DOE school enrollments tend to be less than the IHSAA enrollments, which would send Huntington North to 4A. This will probably be Whiteland's last cycle in 5A before moving up to 6A next year. The Terre Haute schools dropping to 4A is a bit surprising. Both were solidly middle-5A programs a few years ago. TH doesn't seem to be bleeding population, but schools like Mt. Vernon, Greenfield-Central, Pendleton Heights and Northridge will probably continue to grow and push into 5A, eventually bumping FW North and BNL (as well as the TH schools) more permanently into 4A, as has already happened with former 5A teams Richmond, Marion & Muncie Central. I agree that Evansville North will most likely be 5A. But adding the TH schools and BNL to the 4A mix will be a new change. With those coming down and it looks like Brebeuf, Roncalli, and Chatard will all be in the same sectional. At least that means Marion, Western, and Muncie Central will no longer be forced to 4A ‘South.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsCoach Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 With the consolidation of the Hammond high schools, and the addition of Dugger Union in 22-23 (needs to be included in the upcoming cycle), I think there will be 318 schools with football. That puts 32 in 5A and 6A, 2 of the lower classes with 63 and 2 with 64. I am not sure if there is an IHSAA policy on which class should have fewer schools, but in basketball they usually align 1A with the most and 4A with the least. The plan I read for the Hammond schools was to realign the district to split their enrollment somewhat evenly, which would put them around 1700 or so students in each high school. Here are the numbers I have (slightly different from crimsonace). 6A Enrollment Carmel 5414 Ben Davis 4617 North Central (Indpls.) 3754 Warren Central 3690 Fishers 3689 Penn 3430 Hamilton Southeastern 3399 Pike 3392 Lake Central 3271 Elkhart 3235 Avon 3194 Noblesville 3091 Franklin Central 3049 Crown Point 2925 Brownsburg 2876 Lawrence North 2737 Center Grove 2624 Westfield 2513 Homestead 2503 Carroll (F.W.) 2475 Perry Meridian 2358 Southport 2313 Portage 2301 Lawrence Central 2268 Zionsville 2151 Jeffersonville 2134 Columbus North 2090 Indianapolis Arsenal Tech 2089 Chesterton 2081 Lafayette Jefferson 2066 Warsaw 2059 Harrison (West Lafayette) 2050 5A Enrollment Fort Wayne Northrop 2046 Valparaiso 2035 Merrillville 2022 Whiteland 2007 Goshen 1973 South Bend Adams 1949 Castle 1884 Floyd Central 1867 New Albany 1859 Fort Wayne Snider 1830 Decatur Central 1818 McCutcheon 1805 Anderson 1786 Plainfield 1744 LaPorte 1737 Concord 1676 Bloomington South 1666 Bloomington North 1582 Franklin 1582 Munster 1572 Columbus East 1565 Michigan City 1554 Kokomo 1552 Fort Wayne North Side 1547 Seymour 1538 Mishawaka 1499 Huntington North 1478 Hammond Morton (est.) 1700 Hammond Central (est.) 1700 New Palestine 1160 Indianapolis Cathedral 1042 Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger 985 4A Enrollment Bedford-North Lawrence 1463 Terre Haute South 1463 Evansville North 1455 Greenfield-Central 1445 Terre Haute North 1431 Fort Wayne South Side 1415 Northridge 1407 Fort Wayne Wayne 1395 Pendleton Heights 1394 Mt Vernon (Fortville) 1372 Mooresville 1341 Muncie Central 1330 Logansport 1289 Martinsville 1288 East Central 1280 Hobart 1264 Richmond 1260 Hammond Morton 1231 Greenwood 1213 Gary West Side 1189 Jennings County 1163 Indianapolis Crispus Attucks 1142 Shelbyville 1137 South Bend Riley 1133 East Chicago Central 1104 Evansville Reitz 1101 East Noble 1097 Plymouth 1094 Lowell 1092 DeKalb 1080 Columbia City 1072 Jasper 1068 Indianapolis Shortridge 1064 Indianapolis Roncalli 1062 Highland 1061 Marion 1036 Connersville 1034 Lebanon 1017 Kankakee Valley 1015 Beech Grove 1005 Northview 995 New Haven 978 New Prairie 977 Leo 963 Wawasee 947 Boonville 927 Evansville Harrison 923 Evansville Central 919 New Castle 907 Jay County 904 Frankfort 899 Northwood 884 Silver Creek 868 South Bend Clay 858 Culver Academies 831* South Bend Saint Joseph 831 Norwell 829 Western 824 Brebeuf 816 Angola 814 Delta 806 Indianapolis Bishop Chatard 673 Evansville Memorial 559 3A Enrollment South Bend Washington 805 Indianapolis Washington 789 Yorktown 782 Madison 776 Scottsburg 767 Hamilton Heights 763 Edgewood 763 Mississinewa 761 Hanover Central 748 West Lafayette 743 Charlestown 743 Danville 739 Franklin County 732 Gibson Southern 728 Corydon Central 728 Washington 727 South Dearborn 723 Guerin Catholic 719 Hammond Clark 716 Twin Lakes 700 Batesville 697 Lawrenceburg 696 Greensburg 696 North Harrison 689 Crawfordsville 675 Rushville 673 West Noble 669 Owen Valley 664 Mishawaka Marian 661 Griffith 660 Calumet 660 Peru 657 Maconaquah 656 Bellmont 647 John Glenn 637 Mt Vernon (Posey) 633 Evansvill Bosse 631 Vincennes Lincoln 623 Heritage 622 Fort Wayne Concordia 621 Princeton 616 Northwestern 597 Garrett 586 Indian Creek 585 Knox 583 Jimtown 582 Tri-West 578 Tippecanoe Valley 571 Heritage Hills 570 Lakeland 568 Brown County 548 Benton Central 548 Salem 541 Western Boone 538 South Vermillion 535 Pike Central 528 Speedway 527 Fairfield 523 North Montgomery 521 Alexandria 520 Woodlan 519 Monrovia 519 Southridge 513 2A Enrollment West Vigo 518 Centerville 515 Sullivan 514 Rochester 513 Brownstown Central 512 Oak Hill 509 Bremen 507 Evansville Mater Dei 505 River Forest 500 Cascade 496 Frankton 496 Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter 496 Boone Grove 495 Rensselaer Central 494 Southmont 488 Whiting 486 Wheeler 485 Blackford 484 Greencastle 484 Tipton 481 Bluffton 477 Fort Wayne Bishop Luers 477 Eastbrook 471 Eastern (Greentown) 468 Lapel 468 Hammond Bishop Noll 466 Wabash 465 Heritage Christian 463 Triton Central 463 Manchester 460 Delphi 451 Mitchell 450 Central Noble 436 Union County 434 Crawford County 427 Lewis Cass 426 Linton-Stockton 423 North Putnam 422 North Posey 421 Tell City 420 Shenandoah 418 Prairie Heights 416 Indianapolis Scecina 415 Eastern (Pekin) 414 Indianapolis Manual 414 Whitko 413 Northeastern 409 Switzerland County 405 Eastside 400 Elwood 399 Eastern Hancock 395 North Knox 391 Lake Station Edison 389 Churubusco 388 Winchester 387 South Spencer 386 LaVille 385 Paoli 385 Andrean 384 Perry Central 372 Adams Central 368 Madison-Grant 368 Pioneer 297 Lafayette Central Catholic 288 1A Enrollment Forest Park 367 Seeger 367 Clinton Prairie 365 South Putnam 360 North Newton 355 Knightstown 354 Clarksville 353 Parke Heritage 350 Winamac 349 Taylor 347 South Adams 346 Covenant Christian (Indpls.) 344 Providence 344 Park Tudor 343* Sheridan 338 Hagerstown 336 Carroll (Flora) 331 North Decatur 330 North Judson 326 Monroe Central 322 South Central (Union Mills) 320 Milan 317 Cloverdale 309 Eastern Greene 308 Fountain Central 305 South Decatur 304 Tecumseh 300 Riverton Parke 298 North Daviess 297 West Washington 295 Bowman Academy 290 North Central (Farmersburg) 289 North Miami 284 Cambridge City Lincoln 284 Fremont 284 Covington 276 Clinton Central 273 Southern Wells 272 Northfield 269 Wes-Del 261 Southwood 259 Springs Valley 259 Anderson Prep Academy 258 Triton 253 North White 247 Tri 246 Union City 243 North Vermillion 240 Tri Central 240 Barr Reeve 239 South Newton 238 Culver 233 Edinburgh 228 West Central 222 Caston 218 Tri-County 211 Indianapolis Tindley 207 Indianapolis Lutheran 203 Oldenburg Academy 203 Frontier 199 Dugger Union 189 Attica 183 Traders Point Christian 121 Indiana Deaf 113 *school does not report enrollment to DOE. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWFan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I wonder in 1A with alot of schools dropping are south (Forest Park, Providence, Clarksville) and North schools moving up (LCC, busco) which teams will move north in sectionals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestfieldRocks Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 16 hours ago, crimsonace1 said: At first glance, and again, nothing is official until the IHSAA releases it ... No surprise that Zionsville is moving to 6A, but i am a bit surprised Jeffersonville's enrollment has jumped enough to move it up. If this holds, it looks like (once again) there will be some crazy sectional travel in northern Indiana. And Carmel will likely be back in the northern half of the bracket. Somewhat surprised by Merrillville possibly moving down. They are a state contender in 5A. When all is said and done, I would expect Evansville North to be in 5A - their DOE school enrollments tend to be less than the IHSAA enrollments, which would send Huntington North to 4A. This will probably be Whiteland's last cycle in 5A before moving up to 6A next year. The Terre Haute schools dropping to 4A is a bit surprising. Both were solidly middle-5A programs a few years ago. TH doesn't seem to be bleeding population, but schools like Mt. Vernon, Greenfield-Central, Pendleton Heights and Northridge will probably continue to grow and push into 5A, eventually bumping FW North and BNL (as well as the TH schools) more permanently into 4A, as has already happened with former 5A teams Richmond, Marion & Muncie Central. Not a huge surprise there's lots of movement between 2A and 3A, as there are a ton of schools between 475-525 enrollment and one large or one small class can cause lots of movement. i'm wondering why you think Carmel will be moved back north? With Zionsville up to 6A, wouldn't they be the choice to replace Merrillville? Two northern teams moving down to 5A, but Zionsville and the Hammond consolidation up to 6A, to me it seems logical that those two new 6A teams will be placed north, with Carmel staying put in the south. Unless I'm missing something here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxawax Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 hours ago, WestfieldRocks said: i'm wondering why you think Carmel will be moved back north? With Zionsville up to 6A, wouldn't they be the choice to replace Merrillville? Two northern teams moving down to 5A, but Zionsville and the Hammond consolidation up to 6A, to me it seems logical that those two new 6A teams will be placed north, with Carmel staying put in the south. Unless I'm missing something here. Zionsville was south last year and Carmel north. Why would it be any different now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsCoach Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I mistakenly included Barr-Reeve in 1A. No football for the Vikings. Adams Central would go to 1A and Madison-Grant would be 2A since they have a larger freshman class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Fan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 They way I see it for 6A, Zionsville definitely goes south. Carmel goes north. Now that’s going to get interesting for sectional alignments. I really did not think Jeffersonville would be back to 6A. Obviously numbers can change from now until whenever the Ihsaa releases the new enrollments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsCoach Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 55 minutes ago, Indiana Fan said: They way I see it for 6A, Zionsville definitely goes south. Carmel goes north. Now that’s going to get interesting for sectional alignments. I really did not think Jeffersonville would be back to 6A. Obviously numbers can change from now until whenever the Ihsaa releases the new enrollments The alignment committees tend to prefer to modify the current alignment as little as possible. I think 6A is pretty easy. Sectional 1 Lake Central Crown Point Lafayette Jefferson Harrison (West Lafayette) Sectional 2 Penn Elkhart Portage Chesterton Sectional 3 Noblesville Homestead Carroll (F.W.) Warsaw Sectional 4 Carmel Fishers Hamilton Southeastern Westfield Sectional 5 Pike Avon Brownsburg Zionsville Sectional 6 Ben Davis Perry Meridian Southport Indianapolis Arsenal Tech Sectional 7 North Central (Indpls.) Warren Central Lawrence North Lawrence Central Sectional 8 Franklin Central Center Grove Jeffersonville Columbus North Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Fan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 39 minutes ago, HoopsCoach said: The alignment committees tend to prefer to modify the current alignment as little as possible. I think 6A is pretty easy. Sectional 1 Lake Central Crown Point Lafayette Jefferson Harrison (West Lafayette) Sectional 2 Penn Elkhart Portage Chesterton Sectional 3 Noblesville Homestead Carroll (F.W.) Warsaw Sectional 4 Carmel Fishers Hamilton Southeastern Westfield Sectional 5 Pike Avon Brownsburg Zionsville Sectional 6 Ben Davis Perry Meridian Southport Indianapolis Arsenal Tech Sectional 7 North Central (Indpls.) Warren Central Lawrence North Lawrence Central Sectional 8 Franklin Central Center Grove Jeffersonville Columbus North Yes I agree. I love to see different and new matchups, but I think if these end up being the enrollment numbers that this is what the sectionals will look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Fan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I don’t think those numbers will stay the same though. According to the DOE school compass, Harrison (West Lafayette) is tracking their population downwards and they are at 1,950 at the moment. Some of the other numbers on that list are different as well. There is a chance Whiteland jumps up to 6A with as fast as they are growing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsCoach Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Indiana Fan said: I don’t think those numbers will stay the same though. According to the DOE school compass, Harrison (West Lafayette) is tracking their population downwards and they are at 1,950 at the moment. Some of the other numbers on that list are different as well. There is a chance Whiteland jumps up to 6A with as fast as they are growing The DOE’s compass site shows last year’s (19-20) enrollments. Harrison is up 100 students over last year. The 2020 senior class had around 470. Their freshman class this year has 574. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Indiana Fan said: I don’t think those numbers will stay the same though. According to the DOE school compass, Harrison (West Lafayette) is tracking their population downwards and they are at 1,950 at the moment. Some of the other numbers on that list are different as well. There is a chance Whiteland jumps up to 6A with as fast as they are growing 1 minute ago, HoopsCoach said: The DOE’s compass site shows last year’s (19-20) enrollments. Harrison is up 100 students over last year. The 2020 senior class had around 470. Their freshman class this year has 574. Harrison is probably actually tracking up. I'm basing this on the past couple months of driving my son to football practice out there. There's a new subdivision going in within a mile east of Harrison and another one going in roughly a mile west. I don't know the specifics, but I thought I'd heard that there were supposed to be about close to 300 new households between the two of those. I'd be surprised if Harrison doesn't end up in 6A in the 2023 cycle, but it may well go in the 2021 cycle. Either way, I think it's just a matter of time before Harrison passes up Jeff as the largest school in the Lafayette/West Lafayette area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilLee Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 hours ago, HoopsCoach said: The alignment committees tend to prefer to modify the current alignment as little as possible. Yes, how dare them spend any time to do something different. Better to keep the status quo and make sure we continue to have as many blowouts in championship games as we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psaboy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Staxawax said: Zionsville was south last year and Carmel north. Why would it be any different now? But this year, Carmel was in south while Zionsville was north in 5A. Geographically, Carmel is further north than Zionsville, so I could see them going back to north section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxawax Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 49 minutes ago, psaboy said: But this year, Carmel was in south while Zionsville was north in 5A. Geographically, Carmel is further north than Zionsville, so I could see them going back to north section. apples to oranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XStar Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I took a shot at 3A with HoopsCoach's classifications: 25 - Calumet, Hanover Central, Hammond Clark, Griffith, Knox, Benton Central, Twin Lakes, West Lafayette 26 - Mishawaka Marian, SB Washington, John Glenn, Jimtown, Fairfield, Tippecanoe Valley, Peru, Maconaquah 27 - (only put 7 in this one) West Noble, Garrett, Lakeland, Woodlan, FW Concordia, Heritage, Bellmont 28 - Western Boone, North Montgomery, Crawfordsville, Guerin Catholic, Hamilton Heights, Speedway, South Vermillion, Tri-West 29 - Danville, Monrovia, Indy Washington, Washington, Owen Valley, Indian Creek, Brown County, Edgewood 30 - Mississinewa, Alexandria, Northwestern, Yorktown, Rushville, Batesville, Greensburg, Franklin County 31 - Salem, North Harrison, Corydon Central, Madison, South Dearborn, Scottsburg, Charlestown, Lawrenceburg 32 - Mt Vernon, Evansville Bosse, Gibson Southern, Pike Central, Southridge, Heritage Hills, Vincennes Lincoln, Princeton I like this alignment. Sectional 25 had a hole in it and West Lafayette makes more geographic sense than anyone else to fill it I think with Benton Central and Twin Lakes already in it as well. I put Mississinewa in Sectional 30 rather than 27 partially because they fit in geographically with schools like Alexandria and Northwestern and I think that program could beef up that sectional a little. Sectional 28 looks a little different with Chatard moving up. I put Western Boone in their spot and while I moved West Lafayette to 25, I shifted Tri-West from 29 to 28 so it still looks plenty tough to me. As for balance, I count 11 teams in the "new" 3A that finished in the top 100 in Sagarin in 2020. All 8 sectionals has at least one and only one (Sectional 28) has 3. I'd love to move one of those 3 to a different sectional but can't figure out a way to do it that makes sense. I think the teams in 31 and 32 pretty much have to be where they are based on geography but that's just from me looking at a map. That's the part of the state I'm least familiar with. Any thoughts? Complaints? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombkicker Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 10 hours ago, XStar said: I took a shot at 3A with HoopsCoach's classifications: 25 - Calumet, Hanover Central, Hammond Clark, Griffith, Knox, Benton Central, Twin Lakes, West Lafayette 26 - Mishawaka Marian, SB Washington, John Glenn, Jimtown, Fairfield, Tippecanoe Valley, Peru, Maconaquah 27 - (only put 7 in this one) West Noble, Garrett, Lakeland, Woodlan, FW Concordia, Heritage, Bellmont 28 - Western Boone, North Montgomery, Crawfordsville, Guerin Catholic, Hamilton Heights, Speedway, South Vermillion, Tri-West 29 - Danville, Monrovia, Indy Washington, Washington, Owen Valley, Indian Creek, Brown County, Edgewood 30 - Mississinewa, Alexandria, Northwestern, Yorktown, Rushville, Batesville, Greensburg, Franklin County 31 - Salem, North Harrison, Corydon Central, Madison, South Dearborn, Scottsburg, Charlestown, Lawrenceburg 32 - Mt Vernon, Evansville Bosse, Gibson Southern, Pike Central, Southridge, Heritage Hills, Vincennes Lincoln, Princeton I like this alignment. Sectional 25 had a hole in it and West Lafayette makes more geographic sense than anyone else to fill it I think with Benton Central and Twin Lakes already in it as well. I put Mississinewa in Sectional 30 rather than 27 partially because they fit in geographically with schools like Alexandria and Northwestern and I think that program could beef up that sectional a little. Sectional 28 looks a little different with Chatard moving up. I put Western Boone in their spot and while I moved West Lafayette to 25, I shifted Tri-West from 29 to 28 so it still looks plenty tough to me. As for balance, I count 11 teams in the "new" 3A that finished in the top 100 in Sagarin in 2020. All 8 sectionals has at least one and only one (Sectional 28) has 3. I'd love to move one of those 3 to a different sectional but can't figure out a way to do it that makes sense. I think the teams in 31 and 32 pretty much have to be where they are based on geography but that's just from me looking at a map. That's the part of the state I'm least familiar with. Any thoughts? Complaints? Hammond Clark wont exist anymore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsCoach Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, bombkicker said: Hammond Clark wont exist anymore. My mistake - I took out Gavit and forgot to take out Clark. That would shift West Vigo to 3A and Adams Central to 2A. 63 in all classes from 1A to 4A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Harvey Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 My best guess for 5a. 9: Merrillville, Munster, Hammond Morton, Hammond Central 10: Michigan City, LaPorte, South Bend Adams, Valparaiso 11: Huntington North, Goshen, Concord, Mishawaka 12: FW Northrop, FW North Side, FW Bishop Dwenger, FW Snider 13: New Palestine, Kokomo, McCutcheon, Anderson 14: Whiteland, Decatur Central, Indpls. Cathedral, Plainfield 15: Bloomington South, Bloomington North, Columbus East, Franklin 16: New Albany, Floyd Central, Castle, Seymour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XStar Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, HoopsCoach said: My mistake - I took out Gavit and forgot to take out Clark. That would shift West Vigo to 3A and Adams Central to 2A. 63 in all classes from 1A to 4A. Taking out a Hammond school and putting one in from Terre Haute changes things. Moved John Glenn over to sectional 25 to take the place of the Hammond school. Moved Northwestern into 26 (out of 30). Moved Mississinewa back north to fill 27 (out of 30). Moved Guerin Catholic out of 28 to make room for West Vigo. Moved Guerin Catholic into 30 to replace both Northwestern and Mississinewa going north. Sectional 30 now only has 7. I actually like this a little better because I think moving Guerin Catholic to 30 balances everything a bit better than having them stay in 28. 25 - Calumet, Hanover Central, Griffith, Knox, Benton Central, Twin Lakes, West Lafayette, John Glenn 26 - Mishawaka Marian, SB Washington, Northwestern, Jimtown, Fairfield, Tippecanoe Valley, Peru, Maconaquah 27 - West Noble, Garrett, Lakeland, Woodlan, FW Concordia, Heritage, Bellmont, Mississinewa 28 - Western Boone, North Montgomery, Crawfordsville, West Vigo, Hamilton Heights, Speedway, South Vermillion, Tri-West 29 - Danville, Monrovia, Indy Washington, Washington, Owen Valley, Indian Creek, Brown County, Edgewood 30 - (only 7 in this one) Guerin Catholic, Alexandria, Yorktown, Rushville, Batesville, Greensburg, Franklin County 31 - Salem, North Harrison, Corydon Central, Madison, South Dearborn, Scottsburg, Charlestown, Lawrenceburg 32 - Mt Vernon, Evansville Bosse, Gibson Southern, Pike Central, Southridge, Heritage Hills, Vincennes Lincoln, Princeton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 12 hours ago, XStar said: I took a shot at 3A with HoopsCoach's classifications: 25 - Calumet, Hanover Central, Hammond Clark, Griffith, Knox, Benton Central, Twin Lakes, West Lafayette 26 - Mishawaka Marian, SB Washington, John Glenn, Jimtown, Fairfield, Tippecanoe Valley, Peru, Maconaquah 27 - (only put 7 in this one) West Noble, Garrett, Lakeland, Woodlan, FW Concordia, Heritage, Bellmont 28 - Western Boone, North Montgomery, Crawfordsville, Guerin Catholic, Hamilton Heights, Speedway, South Vermillion, Tri-West 29 - Danville, Monrovia, Indy Washington, Washington, Owen Valley, Indian Creek, Brown County, Edgewood 30 - Mississinewa, Alexandria, Northwestern, Yorktown, Rushville, Batesville, Greensburg, Franklin County 31 - Salem, North Harrison, Corydon Central, Madison, South Dearborn, Scottsburg, Charlestown, Lawrenceburg 32 - Mt Vernon, Evansville Bosse, Gibson Southern, Pike Central, Southridge, Heritage Hills, Vincennes Lincoln, Princeton I like this alignment. Sectional 25 had a hole in it and West Lafayette makes more geographic sense than anyone else to fill it I think with Benton Central and Twin Lakes already in it as well. I put Mississinewa in Sectional 30 rather than 27 partially because they fit in geographically with schools like Alexandria and Northwestern and I think that program could beef up that sectional a little. Sectional 28 looks a little different with Chatard moving up. I put Western Boone in their spot and while I moved West Lafayette to 25, I shifted Tri-West from 29 to 28 so it still looks plenty tough to me. As for balance, I count 11 teams in the "new" 3A that finished in the top 100 in Sagarin in 2020. All 8 sectionals has at least one and only one (Sectional 28) has 3. I'd love to move one of those 3 to a different sectional but can't figure out a way to do it that makes sense. I think the teams in 31 and 32 pretty much have to be where they are based on geography but that's just from me looking at a map. That's the part of the state I'm least familiar with. Any thoughts? Complaints? Thought about starting a separate thread for Southern 3A sectional alignment possibilities ...but this could/would serve the same purpose. Don't hate what you have down here - but I think it could be improved. (I don't believe you can but Missinneswea and Alexandia in the SOUTHERN sectionals....also, believe you left off some teams)Here is what I've come up with and reasoning with it. Sectional 29 (we'll call this the "Indy Sectional") - Danville, WeBo, Tri-West, Ritter, Indian Creek, Indy Washington, Manual, and Guerin Catholic Sectional 30 (HAD to be fixed. We'll call this the "come on up Highway 41 Sectional) - West Vigo, Washington, Princeton, Gibson Southern, Vincennes Lincoln, Edgewood, Greencastle, and Brown County Sectional 31 (We'll call this Eastern Indiana) - Franklin County, Lawrenceburg, North Harrison, Batesville, Charleston, Scottsburg, Owen Valley, and Rushville. *Not sure about the competitive balance here..but I think it's better than the ol Sectional 30... Sectional 32 (What's left in Southern Indiana) - Corydon, Salem, Pike Central, Southridge, Heritage Hills, Bosse, Mt. Vernon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestfieldRocks Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 23 hours ago, Staxawax said: Zionsville was south last year and Carmel north. Why would it be any different now? Ok I had forgotten that Z'ville was in 6A last year. Maybe if the IHSAA wants the north represented by someone other than Carmel every year, they may keep Carmel south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XStar Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, jets said: Thought about starting a separate thread for Southern 3A sectional alignment possibilities ...but this could/would serve the same purpose. Don't hate what you have down here - but I think it could be improved. (I don't believe you can but Missinneswea and Alexandia in the SOUTHERN sectionals....also, believe you left off some teams)Here is what I've come up with and reasoning with it. Sectional 29 (we'll call this the "Indy Sectional") - Danville, WeBo, Tri-West, Ritter, Indian Creek, Indy Washington, Manual, and Guerin Catholic Sectional 30 (HAD to be fixed. We'll call this the "come on up Highway 41 Sectional) - West Vigo, Washington, Princeton, Gibson Southern, Vincennes Lincoln, Edgewood, Greencastle, and Brown County Sectional 31 (We'll call this Eastern Indiana) - Franklin County, Lawrenceburg, North Harrison, Batesville, Charleston, Scottsburg, Owen Valley, and Rushville. *Not sure about the competitive balance here..but I think it's better than the ol Sectional 30... Sectional 32 (What's left in Southern Indiana) - Corydon, Salem, Pike Central, Southridge, Heritage Hills, Bosse, Mt. Vernon Well we have to agree on what teams there will be before trying to set up sectionals that make sense. Mine has the 63 that HoopsCoach provided (after the Hammond edit). And you have to include some schools in Indy and north of Indy in the south. The numbers don't work without it. 32 - Spencer and Dubois counties and everything directly west of them. 31 - Washington/Harrison counties directly through Dearborn county. 30 - This is my hodgepodge sectional. Basically 2 clusters of 3 counties. Hamilton/Madison/Delaware that all border northeast Indy. Rush/Franklin/Decatur all east or a little southeast of Indy. 29 - This basically starts with Daviess county and grabs everything heading north towards Indy including Danville in southern Hendricks county and Washington in Marion county until it is full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, jets said: Thought about starting a separate thread for Southern 3A sectional alignment possibilities ...but this could/would serve the same purpose. Don't hate what you have down here - but I think it could be improved. (I don't believe you can but Missinneswea and Alexandia in the SOUTHERN sectionals....also, believe you left off some teams)Here is what I've come up with and reasoning with it. Sectional 29 (we'll call this the "Indy Sectional") - Danville, WeBo, Tri-West, Ritter, Indian Creek, Indy Washington, Manual, and Guerin Catholic Sectional 30 (HAD to be fixed. We'll call this the "come on up Highway 41 Sectional) - West Vigo, Washington, Princeton, Gibson Southern, Vincennes Lincoln, Edgewood, Greencastle, and Brown County Sectional 31 (We'll call this Eastern Indiana) - Franklin County, Lawrenceburg, North Harrison, Batesville, Charleston, Scottsburg, Owen Valley, and Rushville. *Not sure about the competitive balance here..but I think it's better than the ol Sectional 30... Sectional 32 (What's left in Southern Indiana) - Corydon, Salem, Pike Central, Southridge, Heritage Hills, Bosse, Mt. Vernon If they want to kinda stick with the theme of the last realignment...you might be onto something here. But if they want to make it more like before....not so much. Edited November 30, 2020 by Titan32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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