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I don’t know if it matters, but it looks like Southridge would have bumped regardless of success due to enrollment. This would leave Pioneer as the only team in the state affected by the 2020 points. As others have pointed out the IHSAA needs to provide an explanation on what’s going on. If there is this much confusion why not just wipe the success factor slate clean and restart with this cycle to get aligned?

https://www.ihsaa.org/Portals/0/ihsaa/documents/quick resources/Enrollments & Classifications/2022-23 2023-24/2022-23 2023-24 Football Assignments.pdf The link has been updated to reflect Pioneer now in 1A sectional 41.

Wouldn't it be great if the IHSAA issued a statement explaining the situation? Obviously nobody knows why Pioneer is now down along with Chatard. It also seems that no one has a clue as to why LCC is up in 2A. Heck, Pioneer has been in 2A, back down to 1A, aligned in Sectional 34 in 2A, and the realigned into a 1A sectional...all in a 4 week span. So does the IHSAA even know why?

Class 2A SOUTHERN FOOTBALL SECTIONALS When you look at a map there are 16 teams in the south, 8 teams in the southeast {sectional 39 below} and 8 teams in the southwest {sectional 40 below}, which would have been two perfect geographical based sectionals. Then sectional 37 would have been Indianapolis then to the West, while sectional 38 would have been Indianapolis then to the East. Both sectional 37 & 38 would also have been better geographically which I describe later on. This would NOT affect the 4 northern sectionals. CLASS 2A SOUTHERN SECTIONALS BASED ON GEOGRAPHY 37- Cascade, Christel House, Greencastle, Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter, Indianapolis Scecina Memorial, North Putnam, South Vermillion & Southmont 38- Eastern Hancock, Heritage Christian, Lapel, Northeastern, Shenandoah, Triton Central, Union County & Winchester 39- Brown County, Brownstown Central, Clarksville, Crawford County, Eastern {Pekin}, Mitchell, Paoli & Switzerland County 40- Evansville Mater Dei, Forest Park, Linton-Stockton, North Knox, North Posey, Perry Central, Sullivan & Tell City Sectional 40- was an easy adjustment, why was it changed?? a} Past 3 years Linton-Stockton & North Knox have been in sectional 40, why move them to sectional 37? b} South Spencer dropped to 1A, Sullivan dropped to 2A, easy switch, put Sullivan in Sectional 40. They have been in Sectional 40 before. c} Perry Central moved up to 2A- they are farther west then Crawford County, Perry Central in sectional 40 and move Crawford County to 39. Approved Sectionals Instead of what's listed above the Class 2A sectional 39 that was approved, has one team on the Ohio River {Switzerland County}, plus Eastern, Clarksville and Brownstown Central having to drive to Indianapolis {Scecina Memorial HS, Christel House HS & Triton Central HS} instead of being in the same sectional as Paoli, Mitchell & Crawford County. To be honest, this does not make any sense to us? Listed below are different mileage Comparison for sectionals 37, 38, 39 & 40 1} Approved Sectional 39 a} Brownstown Central - to Scecina Memorial 77 miles to Christel House 71 miles, to Triton Central 68 miles b} Clarksville - to Scecina Memorial 114 miles, to Christel House 107 miles, to Triton Central 104 miles c} Eastern to Scecina Memorial 113 miles to Christel House 108 miles to Triton Central 105 miles d} Switzerland County- to Scecina Memorial 105 miles to Christel House 108 miles to Triton Central 88 miles 2} Geographical based sectional 39 that's listed above- All 4 schools are considerably closer to Crawford Co, Mitchell & Paoli then to Scecina Memorial, Christel House & Triton Central a} Brownstown Central to Crawford County 62 miles to Paoli 43 miles to Mitchell 36 miles b} Clarksville to Crawford County 43 miles to Paoli 48 miles to Mitchell 56 miles c} Eastern to Crawford County 38 miles to Paoli 32 miles to Mitchell 35 miles d} Switzerland County to Crawford County 112 miles to Paoli 84 miles to Mitchell 86 miles 3} Mileage Comparison For Scecina Memorial in sectional 37 listed above instead of approved sectional 39- All schools are closer to Scecina (and Christel House) in this sectional 37- then the approved sectional 39 to South Vermillion 98 miles to Southmont 55 miles to North Putnam 52 miles to Greencastle 48 miles to Cascade 36 miles 4} Mileage Comparison for Triton Central in sectional 38 listed above instead of approved sectional 39- All schools are closer to Triton Central in this sectional 38- then the approved sectional 39 to Winchester 85 miles to Northeastern 85 miles to Union County 60 miles to Shenandoah 46 miles to Lapel 45 miles to Eastern Hancock 29 Miles 5} Mileage Comparison - Geographical based sectional 40, compared with approved sectional 39- All 3 schools have less travel in Sectional 40- then Brownstown Central, Clarksville, Eastern & Switzerland County have in approved 39. Sullivan - to Perry Central 101 miles to Forest Park 80 miles to North Posey 79 miles to Mater Dei 87 miles Linton- to Perry Central 91 miles to Forest Park 69 miles to North Posey 83 miles to Mater Dei 98 miles North Knox- to Perry Central 82 miles to Forest Park 60 miles to North Posey 65 miles to Mater Dei 73 miles In conclusion, over the past few months the IHSAA has made some changes in regards to mistakes made in enrollment classifications (with the private schools) and the success factor (with Pioneer). Hopefully they will take the time to look over the approved Class 2A sectional assignments and realize that there is a better geographical way to align the south. With inflation and the rise in gas prices it would benefit all schools to align the sectionals based on geography. Reed May Head Football Coach Brownstown Central HS

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Sectional 1 - Someone not named Merrillville............Love it! Sectional 3 - should give Temptation and I something to banter over for old times sake. Sectional 2 - what's not to love? Carroll, Warsaw, Penn, and Elkhart. If that's not a crapshoot, I don't know what is. Sectional 4 - Carmel vs Westfield in the opening round. Not sure whether to laugh or cry. Seeding anyone?

Well done sir.

I think it is beneficial for the 3 heavy hitters in the PAC that HH, GS, Memorial (in 4A so doesn't matter) and Southridge are spread out a little bit. Mount Vernon is the only team that has a hope of competing with GS in that sectional and that is only if they have the increase that we all keep hearing about. As for us, Southridge is our oldest and most competitive rival (historically speaking) so that is always fun.....but not much else in the sectional. Charlestown can get a decent team together from time to time, not sure about lately. Last time, I think (not sure), we played Charlestown in sectional was in 2014 when we lost to the eventual state winner Tri West in semi state. They were decent that year--my memory may be messed up on that. I'm happy with this realignment....not that anyone cares.

Class 1A (63 Schools) 41. (8) Bowman Academy, Culver Community, North Judson-San Pierre, North Newton, Pioneer, South Central (Union Mills), South Newton, Triton 42. (8): Attica, Clinton Central, Clinton Prairie, Covington, Fountain Central, North Vermillion, Park Tudor, Traders Point Christian 43. (8): Carroll (Flora), Caston, Frontier, North White, Taylor, Tri-Central, Tri-County, West Central 44. (8): Adams Central, Fremont, Madison-Grant, North Miami, Northfield, South Adams, Southern Wells, Southwood https://www.ihsaa.org/Portals/0/ihsaa/documents/quick resources/Enrollments & Classifications/2022-23 2023-24/2022-23 2023-24 Football Assignments.pdf

1A is better when the Panthers a part of it. Welcome back Pioneer!

I think we need to add Pioneer as a clear winner. They go from having a potential regional matchup against Andrean to now potentially playing Park Tudor in regional.

2A South is incredibly poorly done.

Shades of 1A days past. LCC and Pioneer used to be ranked in the top 5 of 1A for several years when the tournament started, only to end each other's seasons before the sectional champion was crowned. Looks like they'll be split this coming cycle as Pioneer is back down in 1A with LCC remaining in 2A.

Way to logical my friend! You are way ahead of your time as it relates to IHSAA business.

Agreed. Could be a positive or negative depending how you look at it, but GS will be able to play a majority of their sectional games with their backups/JV team. Keeps them fresh and healthy but also could limit the starter reps. Either way, they will be heavy heavy favorites to win their sectional for years to come. MV Posey will be competitive with them this season and maybe in the near future, but that's really it. And oddly enough, GS now has the chance to see HH or Southridge in either regionals or semi-state (not sure which it would be off the top of my head) if those teams make runs. Interesting, if not confusing, realignment there.

Linton usually has 45 - 50 players on the roster. Linton is at the bottom of 2A in enrollment. They play a full middle school and JV schedule.

2A South Needs to be redone! It has been stated on the GID in a previous topic that 2A south should be a done deal. That post did not take into account how bad the IHSAA is at Geography. Here is how the 2A South should be aligned: 37- Cascade, Christel House, Greencastle, Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter, Indianapolis Scecina Memorial, North Putnam, South Vermillion & Southmont 38- Eastern Hancock, Heritage Christian, Lapel, Northeastern, Shenandoah, Triton Central, Union County & Winchester 39- Brown County, Brownstown Central, Clarksville, Crawford County, Eastern {Pekin}, Mitchell, Paoli & Switzerland County 40- Evansville Mater Dei, Forest Park, Linton-Stockton, North Knox, North Posey, Perry Central, Sullivan & Tell City

I was under the impression that Pioneer and Southridge were in the same boat in regards to SF points? (Both winning a regional in 2020 and nothing in 2021). We were told, regardless of what happened with our enrollment, that we were remaining up due to SF. Guess they changed their mind?

Heard West Lafayette was caught eating burgers on Friday during Lent and excommunicated from the Catholic Invitational Sectional.

Not sure what the crime would be. But if it’s one of the Justices’ clerks, I’d be worried about my law license.

Wow. If GS ever loses a game in that sectional there ought to be an investigation.

New NLC Sectional groupings: Class 6A - Sectional 2: Carroll (Fort Wayne), Elkhart, Penn, Warsaw Class 5A - Sectional 11: Concord, Goshen, Mishawaka, South Bend Adams Class 4A - Sectional 18: Logansport, Northridge, NorthWood, Plymouth, South Bend Riley, South Bend St. Joseph, South Bend Washington, Wawasee

How? Cakewalk sectional then a CG with massive talent losses in regionals is all they could ever ask for. Dodging Cathedral/Ben Davis until Semi State

Fully aware my opinion may not be popular with some.... RE: Teacher pay. Some of this is relative to the corporation contract structure. Speaking personally, we have a rather favorable contract structure for experienced teachers with a Master's. I do not feel "underpaid", considering I'm contracted for a little over 180 days a year. If you prorated my salary out over an entire year, my teacher salary is very competitive with most anything else I'd be interested or qualified to do. RE: Coaching pay. For the vast majority of coaches, the off-season commitment has increased exponentially over the years ....your coaching stipend has not. And because these commitments, by their nature, generally occur outside of the school day...it has a much more significant impact on your own family obligations. And its generally not compensated for. Now none of us got into coaching high school football to get rich. But I suspect the turnover your seeing is a direct reflection of the expectation that football coaches give so much more of their offseason time, while still expecting them to have full time teaching workloads and not increasing their extracurricular stipend to an amount commensurate with that time commitment. Off-season weights, off-season football workouts (now ok to do), a full summer weight and football practice schedule, multiple summer scrimmages, throw in a team camp, clinics, etc, etc ....My wife would trade my being MIA during two weeks of 2 a Days, for June/July rules going back to their previous versions. When you have kids with their own Winter, Spring, Summer stuff and a wife that works her own job, the off-season time starts to require sacrifices of more than just Dad...most of that load goes on Mom. We all know this, we signed up for it, we love the game; but a lot of coaches are finding that when it comes to raising a family in the 2020's...the balance just isn't there anymore. With some exceptions, your "mega-schools" will be able to manage this better due to a wide variety of resources, and your tiny schools, won't have as much commitment of time due to the number of athletes that are shared with other sports. Its the schools somewhere in the middle that are really putting the squeeze on their coaches. Of course there are exceptions to this. Notice I don't have any answers... People knock on some schools that created internal positions for head coaches, coordinators, etc. But the reality is, those schools understand what is being asked in terms of the time commitment to have a successful program. If your community has a football program with 75-100+ kids, with an expectation that it will be successful. You want good coaches with staff continuity, that's only gonna happen if the coaches feel the juice is worth the squeeze every year. In some places it isn't. (I'm sure there are a variety of typos, etc above....I don't have the energy to proof read since this was more or less a rant of 🤮mental word vomit)

I've posed this question elsewhere, but is Pioneer really even in 1A? They won a regional in 2020 which would keep us in 2A unless I missed a different rule posting than what was originally released. Between 1A and 2A just line us up and we'll play whoever. Our biggest issue at the 2A level is simply depth. Big difference going against teams with 40-60 kids on the roster compared to us only having 20-30 kids JV-Varsity.

Administrators ego's are effecting this as well . It used to be when a teacher came in for an interview one of the questions asked was what sport could you coach ? Now I told a fellow young coach/teacher , don't even mention coaching unless they bring it up and most won't anymore . Head coaches need guys in the building and principals refuse to help, principals want to find a teacher on there own. I've seen numerous times were guys coach at one schools and teach at another and get constantly passed over for multiple positions in the district , good teachers already a little extra invested in that districts students can't get a sniff because there name was brought to an admin . its funny the misconception around many Football coaches . I've always said could you imagine the way the administration and the school cooperation as a whole would look at a teacher who - lets say was say "in charge of the year book" or the "Sophomore class sponsor and they spent even half the time outside of school with the students that Football coaches do? They would win teacher of the year every year. Its sad but I've always said most go into Administration for 1 of 3 reasons 1) The are tired and/or not very good in the classroom 2) They want Admin level money 3) Both 1 and 2

Just awful. Prayers to their family.

I spent the early part of my teaching career at Pike and worked closely with John Clark, Athletic Director at Ben Davis. Two of his grandchildren were killed this past weekend in Owen County. Somber situation at the funeral home today and a lot of athletic departments from all over Central Indiana here today. Please say a prayer for the Clark and Driver families.

It was a very tragic situation. The story is absolutely heartbreaking. https://fox59.com/indiana-news/family-releases-identity-of-indianapolis-siblings-killed-in-campground-accident-how-you-can-honor-them/

Biden Claims School Children Don’t Belong to Parents ‘When They’re in the Classroom’ https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-claims-school-children-dont-belong-to-parents-when-theyre-in-the-classroom/ Ahh, the "In loco parentis" baloney again. Just because it sound kind of cool in Latin doesn't make in any less onerous.