4A Tournament: OFFICIAL Thread

[temptation]

10 minutes ago, Just a dad said:

So what are the 4A games to keep an eye on this week?

Reitz/Heritage Hills

Danville/Roncalli

 

[tango]

9 hours ago, temptation said:

Reitz/Heritage Hills

Danville/Roncalli

 

Reitz won't compete with HH. 

[HHPatriots]

SECTIONAL 24 HH vs REITZ

Friday, October 31st **EARLY KICKOFF** 6:30 pm CDT @ Heritage Hills - The Jungle

History Of The Matchup

Evansville Reitz (7-3) @ Heritage Hills (9-1) Heritage Hills High School Friday, October 31, 2025 6:30 pm CDT Kickoff   This Friday our Patriots will host Evansville Reitz in the Sectional 24 Semifinal. The matchup is the first ever meeting between Heritage Hills and Evansville Reitz on the gridiron.   Reitz and Heritage Hills are two of only five teams in Southwestern Indiana with 2 State titles in football; the other three teams are Mater Dei, Memorial and Castle.   Since the start of the football playoffs in Indiana, Reitz has won 17 Sectional, 6 Regional, 2 Semi-State & 2 State championships. The Patriots have won 15 Sectonal, 12 Regional, 5 Semi-State & 2 State championships.   This season the Patriots are averaging 53.2 points per game on offense, while only allowing 9.4 ppg on defense. Reitz comes into this week averaging 29.1 ppg and has allowed opponents 14.5 ppg.     PACK THE JUNGLE this Friday to cheer for the RED, WHITE, & BLUE!     See who the stat leaders are for our Patriots so far this season at: https://www.hhqbclub.com/stats/   Check out all of the awesome photos taken weekly at: https://www.hhqbclub.com/photos

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[temptation]

5 minutes ago, HHPatriots said:

SECTIONAL 24 HH vs REITZ

Friday, October 31st **EARLY KICKOFF** 6:30 pm CDT @ Heritage Hills - The Jungle

History Of The Matchup

Evansville Reitz (7-3) @ Heritage Hills (9-1) Heritage Hills High School Friday, October 31, 2025 6:30 pm CDT Kickoff   This Friday our Patriots will host Evansville Reitz in the Sectional 24 Semifinal. The matchup is the first ever meeting between Heritage Hills and Evansville Reitz on the gridiron.   Reitz and Heritage Hills are two of only five teams in Southwestern Indiana with 2 State titles in football; the other three teams are Mater Dei, Memorial and Castle.   Since the start of the football playoffs in Indiana, Reitz has won 17 Sectional, 6 Regional, 2 Semi-State & 2 State championships. The Patriots have won 15 Sectonal, 12 Regional, 5 Semi-State & 2 State championships.   This season the Patriots are averaging 53.2 points per game on offense, while only allowing 9.4 ppg on defense. Reitz comes into this week averaging 29.1 ppg and has allowed opponents 14.5 ppg.     PACK THE JUNGLE this Friday to cheer for the RED, WHITE, & BLUE!     See who the stat leaders are for our Patriots so far this season at: https://www.hhqbclub.com/stats/   Check out all of the awesome photos taken weekly at: https://www.hhqbclub.com/photos

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Wow, I guess it makes sense but that statement about it being the first ever meeting between these two historical programs made me do a double take.

[GOLDRUSH1985]

I'm looking forward to a possible Mishawaka vs East Noble/Dwenger matchup . 

[oldtimeqb]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Wow, I guess it makes sense but that statement about it being the first ever meeting between these two historical programs made me do a double take.

Even more odd - Reitz was 5A when it was the largest class. So they have played Ben Davis, Center Grove, and Avon but never the Patriots. 

I remember watching Avon at the Reitz Bowl. 

[TommyTwoTimes]

Am I missing it somewhere in another thread or is NOBODY talking about the Chatard vs. Roncalli matchup?  I've heard Roncalli has improved a great deal and isn't the same team that took it on the chin from Chatard earlier in the year, but I don't know. That's just what I heard.

[fenderbender]

44 minutes ago, TommyTwoTimes said:

Am I missing it somewhere in another thread or is NOBODY talking about the Chatard vs. Roncalli matchup?  I've heard Roncalli has improved a great deal and isn't the same team that took it on the chin from Chatard earlier in the year, but I don't know. That's just what I heard.

Roncalli has found another RB (Junior) that shifted their SR starter to slot/wing back, giving a little more triple option look out of the spread.   Also found a JR WR/TE that has started to make some big plays.   QB has also started to throw the ball better and emerged as big run/pass threat.   

Really overwhelmed Northview and Danville on the line of scrimmage

[temptation]

53 minutes ago, TommyTwoTimes said:

Am I missing it somewhere in another thread or is NOBODY talking about the Chatard vs. Roncalli matchup?  I've heard Roncalli has improved a great deal and isn't the same team that took it on the chin from Chatard earlier in the year, but I don't know. That's just what I heard.

No doubt.  It’s intriguing for sure.

Chatard won a shootout last week it appears.  Did Brebeuf score late against 2s and 3s?

Meanwhile, Roncalli looks to be clicking on all cylinders on offense.

[TheDoctor22]

1 hour ago, TommyTwoTimes said:

Am I missing it somewhere in another thread or is NOBODY talking about the Chatard vs. Roncalli matchup?  I've heard Roncalli has improved a great deal and isn't the same team that took it on the chin from Chatard earlier in the year, but I don't know. That's just what I heard.

What @fenderbender and @temptation said. This will without a doubt be a much different game than week 3. Roncalli’s offense has become a juggernaut, and I’m not sure Chatard can slow them down this time around. It’s been an odd year for Chatard. Lots of guys in and out of the lineup week to week in both sides of the ball.

4A has a lot of interesting story lines, parity. Should be a fun class to watch from here on.

57 minutes ago, temptation said:

Chatard won a shootout last week it appears.  Did Brebeuf score late against 2s and 3s?

Yes, Brebeuf added one late score after Chatard cleared the benches, but it was most definitely a shootout in the first half. Brebeuf’s starting QB was back after missing most of the season, and he was very impressive. Made Brebeuf’s offense look much similar to last years version than what I saw week 5 vs Chatard.

[Gipper]

On 10/29/2025 at 6:50 AM, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

I'm looking forward to a possible Mishawaka vs East Noble/Dwenger matchup . 

I also think Lowell-Hobart will be epic.

[Tin Cup]

Chatard (-3)

HH (-17)

Hobart (-3)

Mishawaka (-14)

FW Dwenger (-3)

Lebanon (-6)

Pendleton Heights (-14)

BNL (-10)

[Lysander]

On 11/5/2025 at 12:53 PM, TommyTwoTimes said:

Am I missing it somewhere in another thread or is NOBODY talking about the Chatard vs. Roncalli matchup?  I've heard Roncalli has improved a great deal and isn't the same team that took it on the chin from Chatard earlier in the year, but I don't know. That's just what I heard.

On average, I think Roncalli has been playing playing better ball than Chatard for the last several weeks…..they definitely appear to be more consistent.  Chatard seems to be playing to the level of the competition as often as not recently (admittedly, I think Chatard was VERY guilty of looking towards Roncalli during the Brebeuf game last Friday).  

Both MaxPreps and Sags (although I REALLY have some question about Sags this season) have this as  #1 v #2 in 4A much like the Chatard/New Pal Regional last year (yes, I know many favor HH but it appeared they had a lot more difficulty v. an average Reitz team last week than I would have anticipated….I’m just not as high on them as I was).  Whatever happens on Friday, it DEFINITELY won’t look like the 31-10 game Chatard won in Week 2.  

[FastpacedO]

7 hours ago, Lysander said:

On average, I think Roncalli has been playing playing better ball than Chatard for the last several weeks…..they definitely appear to be more consistent.  Chatard seems to be playing to the level of the competition as often as not recently (admittedly, I think Chatard was VERY guilty of looking towards Roncalli during the Brebeuf game last Friday).  

Both MaxPreps and Sags (although I REALLY have some question about Sags this season) have this as  #1 v #2 in 4A much like the Chatard/New Pal Regional last year (yes, I know many favor HH but it appeared they had a lot more difficulty v. an average Reitz team last week than I would have anticipated….I’m just not as high on them as I was).  Whatever happens on Friday, it DEFINITELY won’t look like the 31-10 game Chatard won in Week 2.  

Can some of Chatard's inconsistent (playing to level of competition) be Harrington getting into the swing of things/game speed returning back after a knee injury.

[Lysander]

18 minutes ago, FastpacedO said:

Can some of Chatard's inconsistent (playing to level of competition) be Harrington getting into the swing of things/game speed returning back after a knee injury.

Hard to say but I doubt it.  He completely tore the ACL back in the 1st game against Brebeuf (I believe) so he’s played a lot of ball since then.

With that, even with inconsistent play, as a team, they’ve proven talented enough to later make up for it - with the exception of Cincy Elder who was just that good.  

I just don’t think they can afford to be inconsistent against this much improved late season Roncalli team who will make them pay for it.  

[Rodney]

5 minutes ago, Lysander said:

Hard to say but I doubt it.  He completely tore the ACL back in the 1st game against Brebeuf (I believe) so he’s played a lot of ball since then.

With that, even with inconsistent play, as a team, they’ve proven talented enough to later make up for it - with the exception of Cincy Elder who was just that good.  

I just don’t think they can afford to be inconsistent against this much improved late season Roncalli team who will make them pay for it.  

3 touchdown game

[TommyTwoTimes]

7 hours ago, Lysander said:

On average, I think Roncalli has been playing playing better ball than Chatard for the last several weeks…..they definitely appear to be more consistent.  Chatard seems to be playing to the level of the competition as often as not recently (admittedly, I think Chatard was VERY guilty of looking towards Roncalli during the Brebeuf game last Friday).  

Both MaxPreps and Sags (although I REALLY have some question about Sags this season) have this as  #1 v #2 in 4A much like the Chatard/New Pal Regional last year (yes, I know many favor HH but it appeared they had a lot more difficulty v. an average Reitz team last week than I would have anticipated….I’m just not as high on them as I was).  Whatever happens on Friday, it DEFINITELY won’t look like the 31-10 game Chatard won in Week 2.  

I would agree with you at this point.  To me Chatard vs Roncalli is definitely a #1 vs #2.  Up to now HH  doesn't have the quality of wins to put them in the top 2, nor have they been playing the caliber of football for the ranking.  Of course, nothing we say or think matters.  At this point wins are wins, losses are permanent, and all that really matters is who wins after Thanksgiving!  

But I think Roncalli is going to be playing in regionals next week.

[Just a dad]

The Chatard/Roncalli game will come down to turnovers and missed opportunities. Bonus points to Chatard for getting to play this game at home. Not sure if Chatard has the athletes to slow down the Roncalli QB. Not sure if Roncalli has the size to handle the Chatard OL (shocked myself by saying that). Big plays for Roncalli vs a grind for Chatard. Eventually Roncalli’s defense wears out like 2 years ago when Chatard held the ball for nearly the entire 4th quarter. if the game is clean, Chatard likely pulls away at the end and wins 31-20 but it’s football and anything can happen. 

[fenderbender]

Roncalli is on a roll.  Catching fire at the right time. 

[Lysander]

14 hours ago, Rodney said:

3 touchdown game

Well….you called it.

33 minutes ago, fenderbender said:

Roncalli is on a roll.  Catching fire at the right time. 

Yep.  Congrats…..total domination.  Good luck the rest of the season.

[fenderbender]

4 minutes ago, Lysander said:

Well….you called it.

Yep.  Congrats…..total domination.  Good luck the rest of the season.

The QB has turned into a different player vs start of season.  Always had elite speed to run away from people, but now he is hitting the passes when people load up on run.  Jarvis has come out of nowhere.  (Heard he was injured a lot last two seasons.)

[TigerFan20]

13 minutes ago, Lysander said:

Well….you called it.

Yep.  Congrats…..total domination.  Good luck the rest of the season.

Doesn’t Chatard drop back down to 3A next season?

[Lysander]

9 minutes ago, TigerFan20 said:

Doesn’t Chatard drop back down to 3A next season?

Yes…..unfortunately.  They only earned 1 point last year and none this year.

[fenderbender]

9 minutes ago, TigerFan20 said:

Doesn’t Chatard drop back down to 3A next season?

This is where success factor looks foolish.  Chatard moves up, they stuck them in Roncalli sectional, they split the next two years and Chatard moves back down.  
 

Similar thing happened when Roncalli moved up to 5A.  Put them in Cathedral sectional.  R lost close game, then got thumped and back down to 4A.  

[Lysander]

13 minutes ago, fenderbender said:

This is where success factor looks foolish.  Chatard moves up, they stuck them in Roncalli sectional, they split the next two years and Chatard moves back down.  
 

Similar thing happened when Roncalli moved up to 5A.  Put them in Cathedral sectional.  R lost close game, then got thumped and back down to 4A.  

Agreed.  Chatard and Roncalli are effectively .500 against each other over the entirety of their history.  Makes it hard to get the needed points to stay up if they are always paired in the same 4A Sectional.

To be clear, I don’t want Chatard to be in 3A and I’ve said as much for years…..nobody does including the IHSAA.  It’s part of the reason we have a success factor at all…..but the IHSAA just can’t resist putting all the Catholics in the same Sectional whenever and wherever possible.  Btw, it’s entirely possible Cathedral, Chatard and Roncalli ALL end up in the same 4A Sectional 3 years from now if Cathedral can’t get past New Pal next year.

 

Edited November 8, 2025 by Lysander