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Also the only state in the union who refused to change times for decades to keep the cow milking on the same schedule. Indiana is a central time zone state pretending to be an eastern one.

Agree with this post. I've wondered numerous times how far can we go before the cumulative effect of numerous or prolonged shutdowns makes the treatment worse than the disease. I'm all for masks, distancing, sanitizing and as much temperature taking/testing we can do. Lets isolate those at greatest risk but the rest of us live our lives while practicing the aforementioned precautions and using common sense.

I think you’ve stated the issues very well. My only disagreement with what you said is the part about “I still think we let the parents, coaches, kids, and fans decide.“ As we have discussed in other contexts, the freedom to decide is largely a fable in kids that age. Peer pressure makes the notion of free choice illusory.

It is close enough to July 6th. Just like the previous topic, this one spiraled off course. Seriously, some of you just need to put each other on ignore.........SERIOUSLY

No, it doesn't.

It's about managing risk. Think of it on a scale of 0 to 100. To achieve a risk of 0 you would avoid the flight entirely. To achieve a risk of 100 you would attend the flight in a packed plane with nobody wearing a masks, no deep cleaning between flights and flight attendants shaking your hand as you get off an one. Empty middle seats, spacing on lines to board, pre-packaged food you grab yourself, everyone wearing masks would have a risk of 20. Taking your mask off for the purpose of eating maybe increases your risk to 25 or 30. I'm making up these numbers for demonstration purposes, but you get the idea. Yes, taking off your mask to eat increases your risk, but only slightly compared to not doing anything. And the only way to completely eliminate the risk is to not get on the plane in the first place.

Good post. This is why we will have school and why we will have sports. If a kid gets sick they will be asked to go home and quarantine. The rest of the time there will be (some significant percentage) of kids walking around asymptomatic and no one will know or care. Just as there are at the graduations and grad parties we have been at, baseball tournaments, summer basketball, Lacrosse tournaments, Walmart etc. this summer. At the big Toyota plant in Gibson county they wear masks and have a walk through temperature scanner. Sick people don't come to work. No pressure to close that place ...there are 7,000 employees in there at least. And yes to Bobrefs point...more people are going to die because of this head in the sand methodology. I'm a 50 year old fat guy...I'm concerned for my safety. My youngest two will be freshmen...they will walk the halls and play sports.

He does. Always thinks hes the smartest man on the digest too.

It Was Obama All Along https://spectator.org/it-was-obama-all-along/ (Note: this probably means they listened to partial recordings of the Flynn–Kislyak conversations) Obama directs the investigation of Flynn to proceed. He doesn’t say, “Have your best people on it”; he says, “have the right people on it,” which means something entirely different: have politically reliable people investigate Flynn. Obama directed Yates and Comey to have people who could be relied on to pursue Flynn perform the investigation. The next relevant meeting we know about is the one that took place on January 23, 2017, after Trump’s inauguration and long after Comey told Obama that the Flynn–Kislyak conversations appeared to be legitimate. Bill Priestap, then the FBI’s head of counterintelligence, made the notes of that meeting either during or after it. The meeting was between Comey, then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, and himself. Priestap’s notes recall conversations in which the three apparently decided to not warn Flynn of his constitutional rights or that there was a risk of Flynn being prosecuted for lying to the FBI. Priestap’s now-famous notes say, “What is our goal? Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired? … If we get him to admit to breaking the Logan Act, give facts to DOJ + have them decide.” Comey, Priestap, and McCabe were following Obama’s orders and setting up the interview to entrap Flynn into lying or admitting a violation of the Logan Act, the 1807 law precluding American citizens who lack governmental authority from negotiating policy matters with representatives of foreign governments. Comey had already determined that the Flynn–Kislyak conversations appeared to be legitimate. There is absolutely no doubt about their legitimacy: Flynn, as incoming national security adviser to the already-elected Trump, would be highly derelict in his duty if he hadn’t had such conversations with Kislyak and a wide variety of foreign government representatives on any subject relevant to Trump’s concerns. But the investigation continued, the FBI interviewed Flynn on the record and, after the investigation was continued by special counsel Robert Mueller and his team of partisan Democratic prosecutors, Flynn pleaded guilty rather than have Mueller persecute Flynn’s son. Go back to the meeting with Obama, Biden, Yates, Comey, and Rice. This wasn’t an extraordinary event. It was a routine event for the president to be briefed on a counterintelligence investigation. What made it unique is — as Obama noted — these were unusual times. The Flynn investigation “Crossfire Razor” was nothing more than an offshoot from original “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation into Trump’s campaign. We have, as yet, no proof that Obama was directly involved in and directed the “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation. But think about the people who ran it: CIA Director John Brennan, Comey, and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. There is zero chance that the three ran “Crossfire Hurricane” without Obama’s knowledge. And there is no reason to believe that he was more reluctant to issue them orders on how to conduct that investigation than he was to direct Comey and Yates to investigate Flynn and “put the right people” on it despite the obvious legitimacy of Flynn’s actions. For those who have forgotten, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court’s surveillance warrants against Carter Page — all four of them — were based on the fictitious “Steele dossier,” the compilation of opposition research materials paid for by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign. Which brings us around to the January 6, 2017, declaration by the Director of National Intelligence that the entire U.S. intelligence community (IC) that the Russian interference in the 2016 election was intended to benefit candidate Trump. We know now — and the intelligence community knew then — that the Steele dossier was a product of Russian intelligence activities. Steele had based his series of memos on Russian sources. But the IC was determined to defeat Trump and then to disrupt his transition to the presidency. In short, the January 6 declaration was as false as the Steele dossier itself. It’s a great pity that you can’t impeach someone who is no longer in office, because Obama’s actions — clearly in violation of the law and of the constitutional rights of Flynn, Trump, Carter Page, and others — were entirely worthy of impeachment. During the Watergate investigation of President Richard Nixon’s actions, Sen. Howard Baker (R-Tenn.) famously asked, “What did the president know and when did he know it?” In the case of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation, the question is what did Obama do and when did he do it? So where do we go from here? One trusted source tells me that Susan Rice — she who took to the airwaves and lied about the Benghazi attack on five Sunday news shows and participated in the push to investigate Flynn — is high on Joe Biden’s list of possible vice-presidential running mates. Biden’s participation in the unjustified pursuit of Mike Flynn (of which he says he was aware, but doesn’t admit its illegitimacy) makes him unfit for the presidency. And if he chooses Susan Rice as his running mate and wins the election, we’ll be governed by the two of the worst people. It’s a kakistocracy in the making.

Should be rephrased to what happens when you FIND out 5-20% of your team is ALREADY infected and asymptomatic? Keep in mind some of the things we do KNOW about all this. Most people are asymptomatic (especially young healthy people - high school athletes). It would go without saying, temperature checks will NOT identify these individuals (which will be almost all of the players who are positive). However, once someone tests positive and the contact tracing starts....expect to find that anywhere from 5-20% (based on reported data) of a "random" population will test positive for either COVID or Antibodies. I teach Human Anat/Phys and Vertebrate Zoology. I promise you my kids did not get what they should have from the course. They did ok with the watered down version they were forced into. re: Grandpa & Grandma being forced to make the decision about having a burger with their grandkids. Total red herring question. Are these kids NOT going to school? Football should not be in the calculus for that decision, if you are worried about that...the kids are already riding buses and sitting in classrooms with hundreds/thousands of other kids each day. That should already force that decision. Here's the reality....unless we go back to eLearning, kids are going to be in class and on buses much like they always were (schools may tell you otherwise, but I don't see it). Football or other sports is NOT significantly raising their risks above what they are encountering during the school day.

So we are just completely ignoring the OBVIOUS major faux pas in the restroom urinal rules????

I know it's not a shot 🙂 Last year was my 1st time teaching ELA, and we re-did curricular materials part-way through the 1st quarter. Part of the curricular materials was a computer-based literacy program, which the kids by and large hated. However, the ELA MAPS scores went up (my 8th Graders had 100% growth). Learning is happening, and we are able to measure it, we just need to align curricular materials correctly. Google Classroom is free for non-profits 🙂

Biden says 120 million have died from COVID and 150 million have died from guns. Apparently only 60 million are still alive in America.

Covid-19 was probably as shot across the bow from the group who paid for the creation of the Georgia Guidestones.

I believe Pelley will go back to calling Offense

The only state in the union who’s time is dictated by metro areas in other states.

CST is much better. KY is only EST from about Louisville east which makes sense geographically (Owensboro, Madisonville, Bowling Green and Paducah are CST). We have CST here in in SW Indiana and on the shortest day of the year (December 21) sunset was 4:35. It's worth it to have Monday night football start at 8:00 and over at 11:00. And the 10:00 news is actually at 10:00. Far superior time than EST.

I think the question is what qualifies a program as “elite?” To me Memorial has been elite the last 4 years but not anyone else around SW Indiana..

Michigan and Kentucky are EST. If you enjoy sunset at 4pm in December switch us. Just saying.

DST isn't the issue...the issue is the SW and NW corners of the state being on CST. I think it is nuts that any of Indiana is on EST...just my opinion.

I guess that would up to the grandparents. I wouldn't recommend it. That age bracket has another set of rules. If I'm over 65, I'm probably watching the game on TV.

West Washington Livestreams on YouTube. Thats all I can contribute to this thread. 🤣

I prefer a donation to the Gridiron Digest......

They would have to win Regional this year for the bump.

I'm encouraged by the open mindedness of the new Leadership to consider change. It is needed in regards to current playoff system. I'd love them to expand the discussion to review neutral sites for Regional and especially Semi Sate games. One step at a time I guess. Also agree 100% with DT's last post, it is home field advantage for local Indy schools. Hard to deny this fact. Having said that, I still think Indy/LOS is the ideal location to host and it's encouraging to see new leadership open to ideas/ways to mitigate and get more butts in seats.

Excuses, excuses! You Tipton guys sing the same song every year on here.

yes

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The coronavirus doesn't spread when people are rioting, looting or during arson attacks. Mass protests, eating and drinking are also considered safe from virus spread.

Perhaps CNN is racist. CNN says 80,000 have been killed in Mexican Cartel Drug War between 2015 - 2018. https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/02/world/americas/mexico-drug-war-fast-facts/index.html

Robert F. Kennedy blasts Dr. Fauci

The Feds Sent More than 1 Million Coronavirus Stimulus Payments to Dead People, GAO Says https://reason.com/2020/06/25/the-feds-sent-more-than-1-million-coronavirus-stimulus-payments-to-dead-people-gao-says/ All to be paid by our children and grandchildren.

Interesting points from Switzerland. Unfortunately, we cannot trust any information from Dr. Fauci, the CDC or the FDA.