scarab527

14 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

No one is being forced to play on turf. HS sports are elective extra-curricular activities.

Yes, no one is being forced to sign up for sports.

Those who choose to sign up are being forced to play on surfaces that are not optimal for safety in the name of saving money and expedience for administrators. Pretty shameful if you ask me. 

24 minutes ago, temptation said:

Got it.  So admitting defeat?  Burden of proof is on you.  

Perhaps, you are getting confused with the OOB forum?  

Lol oh brother, so your stuff about the MIC never got political? 

4 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

Go run on Rose Hulman's Football field, any turf field, and any high school that has Natural grass and let me know what difference you feel (I have done all of the above. The people who play the game at the highest level possible aren't playing on High School natural grass when they do play on Natural Grass. Rose Hulman happens to have NFL grass that was installed when the Colts used their facility for training camp.

Except they’ve done studies specifically focused on high school and found the exact same stuff: 

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13 hours ago, temptation said:

Waiting…

You have Temp, you know it. I could name examples, but as much as I know you’d like to, I’m not really trying to argue about this right now. 

I think it's funny that all of the people who play the game at the highest level possible are in near-unanimous agreement that grass is easier on the body, while a bunch of guys sitting on their couches watching them go "Nuh-uh you're wrong!"

Week 5 Pick ‘Em Games:

1. FW Carroll @ FW Snider

2. NorthWood @ Warsaw

3. Southport @ Beech Grove

4. Merrillville @ Michigan City

5. Castle @ Vincennes Lincoln

6. Hammond Central @ Pioneer

7. Leo @ East Noble

8. New Prairie @ South Bend St. Joseph

9. Southridge @ Gibson Southern

10. North Harrison @ Brownstown Central

11. Carroll (Flora) @ Eastern (Greentown) 

Standings after Week 4:

1. @LC_Bears_04 32 points

T2. @Bears62 + @temptation 31 points

T3. @Boilernation + @DumfriesYMCA 30 points

4. @PCFan1996 29 points 

T5. @CJJL + @sbriant20 28 points 

T6. @gonzoron + @swcgillespie 27 points

T7. @00NWP, @FridayNightLights, @WCGrad92, + @whiteshoes 26 points

T8. @Formerly Number 39 + @Komets2727 25 points 

T9. @Mongo, @Muda69, @NE8_Fan, @NLCTigerFan07, + @scarab527 24 points 

T10. @1st_and_10, @bigcityp, + @TransplantedPanther  21 points

Missing 1 Week:

1. @Football Guru 25 22 points

2. @wvigo13 21 points

3. @Whitehat 15 points 

Missing 2 Weeks: 

1. @Caleb 7 points 

As always please double check scores! 

7 hours ago, Boilernation said:

Agreed on the matchups with the Catholic League Blue, DuPage Valley, West Suburan Silver and Southwest Suburban Blue . The problem with the Catholic League Blue though is they're notorious for backing out of home and home deals when it's their turn to travel. Loyola Academy did it to Cincinnati St. Xavier this year. But, the Catholic League Blue and some of the Western/SW Suburban teams are very good for the same reasons Cathedral and HCC teams are good. It's tough to schedule them though as they start a week later and a lot of the teams just schedule OOC against teams from other Chicagoland conferences. 

I've often wondered how East St. Louis can be so good at HS football when the town itself is a disaster and looks like Gary with neighborhoods completely abandoned. But, I've noticed once their players hit colleget their hometown is typically listed as St. Louis. I think they even got into trouble recently with the amount of "recruits" they were bringing in from St. Louis.

I’ve heard the same thing. I believe Mt Carmel used to play Warren in the late 80s/early 90s. A guy can dream. 

East St Louis recruits the entire city of St Louis. They’ve gotten in trouble a few times over the years for doing so. 
 

I’m not sold on CP. Didn’t look good at all first half vs LC. If they beat up on Valpo like they’ve been doing everyone else then I’ll finally buy in. As of now I don’t think they’ll make it out of the Regional. 
 

Don’t think we can glean anything from the Moeller matchups other than EC will not be touched in 4A this year.

I think this Top 25 is really accurate other than the Bloomington schools being on it. North beating South was more reflective of South being frauds than North actually being good. Think teams 19-25 all beat the Bloomington schools by 3+ TDs. Conference Indiana is not good.

52 minutes ago, BTF said:

I just don't know anything about Cristian Brothers or Detroit King. I do feel like Indiana has closed the gap with Ohio and has probably surpassed Michigan, Kentucky, and Illinois. 

I don’t follow Michigan enough to speak on it, but I watched Mount Carmel and East St Louis play a couple weeks ago and I gotta say I’m not sure anyone in Indiana this year could beat either of them. Would love to see some MIC/HCC vs Catholic League Blue matchups in the near future. 

37 minutes ago, temptation said:

Nah, I’m human.  Look at my record picking games this week.

Anyone who brings attempts to bring politics into a high school football thread is a loser, that’s all I was saying.

LOL pot calling the kettle black right here.

HSE

BNL

Marion

Greenfield-Central

Brebeuf

FW Wayne

Tri-West

South Adams

Knox

Linton-Stockton

Bremen

Seems like there's comments on both sides of this issue

I really would like to think that there aren’t actually any coaches who run up scores of high school football games for the sake of Sagarin ratings. 

And if there are, I don’t think that doing so even makes their teams better. If you can score that easily on a team, you can probably get better reps against your own guys in practice.

Besides all that, I think there’s really an argument that being underrated in Sagarin might actually be an advantage, but that’s a whole different conversation. 

Just get the running clock on and get out of there. 

27 minutes ago, temptation said:

Tell us more.  If they “do it all the time” surely you have dozens of examples…

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2014/08/08/indianas-controversial-high-school-transfer-rules-draw-scrutiny-in-wake-of-eron-gordon-case/13773041/
 

Here’s a link to a story from back in 2014 written by Neddenriep where multiple players are mentioned and the way in which the IHSAA handles transfers is questioned. The IndyStar has written about this quite a bit, especially Doyle in the past few years, and those articles have been discussed on this forum before. A quick google search of “ihsaa transfer indystar” will get you everything.

But anyway, this is probably the most disgusting story we’re heard yet in terms of IHSAA transfer horror stories. Many of the “adults” in this story should be downright ashamed of themselves. 

Week 4 Pick ‘Em Games

1. Hamilton Southeastern @ Fishers

2. New Albany @ Bedford North Lawrence 

3. Anderson @ Marion

4. Greenfield-Central @ Pendleton Heights

5. Guerin Catholic @ Brebeuf Jesuit

6. Fort Wayne Luers @ Fort Wayne Wayne

7. Tri-West @ Western Boone

8. Heritage @ South Adams

9. North Judson @ Knox

10. Linton-Stockton @ Sullivan

11. Bremen @ Triton 

Standing after Week 4:

1. @Bears62 24 points

2. @LC_Bears_04 23 points

T3. @Boilernation + @temptation 22 points

T4. @CJJL, @DumfriesYMCA, @FridayNightLights, @PCFan1996 21 points

T5. @sbriant20 + @WCGrad92 20 points 

T6. @Formerly Number 39, @Muda69 + @swcgillespie 19 points 

T7. @00NWP+ @whiteshoes 18 points

T8. @gonzoron, @NE8_Fan+ @NLCTigerFan07 17 points

T9. @Komets2727 + @scarab527 16 points

T10. @1st_and_10, @Mongo +@TransplantedPanther 15 points

11. @bigcityp 13 points 

For People that have missed a week:

T1. @Football Guru 25+ @wvigo13 14 points

T2. @Jbk2 + @Plymouthfan91 11 points 

T3. @CLKeller16  + @Whitehat 7 points 

I’m removing anyone who’s missed two weeks just so that I’m not tagging anyone in stuff they don’t care about, feel free to hop back in though. 
 

Also welcoming feedback on game selections so far. Please let me know how you think I’ve done so far. And as always please double check your scores. 

Only issue CP has had tonight is the kicking. They score again. They’re gonna put the running clock on the Ville it looks like. 
 

CP 32

Ville 0 

3Q

Crown Point takes a run 50 yards to the house. Putting the beats to the Pirates now.

CP 26

Ville 0

3Q

CP punches it in again. This time the 2pt is good.

CP 20

Ville 0

2Q

CP takes advantage of a Merrillville turnover, 2 pt no good.

CP 12

Ville 0

2Q

Crown Point 6 

Merrillville 0 

End of 1st

Crown Point 

Franklin

Decatur Central

Michigan City

Wawasee

New Haven

New Palestine

Hamilton Heights

Forest Park

Triton Central

Cloverdale

@whiteshoes @CLKeller16 @Komets2727 @Plymouthfan91 @Caleb @hallrc @Landrys Hat few more hours to get picks in this week 

Week 3 Pick 'Em Games:

1. Merrillville @ Crown Point

2. Franklin @ Perry Meridian 

3. Decatur Central @ Whiteland

4. Chesterton @ Michigan City

5. Wawasee @ Goshen 

6. DeKalb @ New Haven

7. Yorktown @ New Palestine

8. Lafayette Central Catholic @ Hamilton Heights

9. Forest Park @ Tell City

10. Triton Central @ Indianapolis Lutheran 

11. Cloverdale @ Brown County 

Standings after Week 2:

1. @LC_Bears_04 16 points

2. @Bears62 15 Points

T3. @Boilernation + @FridayNightLights 14 Points

T4. @CJJL, @DumfriesYMCA, + @temptation 13 Points

T5. @Muda69, @PCFan1996, + @swcgillespie 12 Points

T6. @Formerly Number 39, @Jbk2, @Plymouthfan91, @sbriant20, @WCGrad92, + @whiteshoes 11 Points

T7. @bigcityp, @NE8_Fan, @NLCTigerFan07, + @TransplantedPanther 10 Points

T8. @1st_and_10 + @Komets2727 9 Points

T9. @00NWP, @gonzoron, @Mongo , + @scarab527 8 Points

10. @CLKeller16 7 Points

Standings for people who've missed a week (keeping these separate for now to keep track, will throw everyone in together later in the season). 

T1. @Landrys Hat + @Football Guru 25 7 Points

2. @hallrc 6 Points

3. @wvigo13 5 Points

T4. @Whitehat + @Caleb 1 Point

Again, did my best to double check everything, but please let me know if there's an error in scores. 

On 8/26/2023 at 8:40 AM, whiteshoes said:

Wow, did I wipe out.

Finishing up the scoring now, seems like everyone founds this week's slate of games harder than week 1's

On 8/21/2023 at 1:51 PM, scarab527 said:

Week 2 Pick 'Em Games:

1. Cathedral @ Brownsburg Cathedral

2. Homestead @ Noblesville Noblesville 

3. Roncalli @ Franklin Central Roncalli

4. Harrison @ Plainfield Harrison

5. LaPorte @ Lowell LaPorte

6. Evansville Mater Dei @ Castle Mater Dei

7. Culver Academy @ Mishawaka Marian Marian

8. Franklin County @ Connersville Connersville

9. Brownstown Central @ Charlestown Brownstown

10. Owen Valley @ South Putnam Owen Valley 

11. North Decatur @ Eastern Hancock North Decatur

22 hours ago, BTF said:

East Noble over Snider by 7. This game eerily reminds me of 1993 when the Panthers played Homestead for the first time ever. They coasted into that game and wasn't ready for the truck that ran them over. This is their first meeting ever with East Noble. Snider's struggled against good passing teams in past. Upset special of the week. 

No disrespect to the Knights, but picking them over Snider after what the Panthers did to Warren last week is pure lunacy.

19 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

I don’t see a total for me…

Sorry, had you on the notes but didn’t transfer it over. 7 points