6A Tournament Discussion

[GOLDRUSH1985]

17 minutes ago, BTF said:

Hey now, don't bring that up. 

Hard to believe that was 28 years ago . I was there with my 10 year old daughter freezing our ass off . I'm thinking Snider gives Carroll a much better game this go around .  

[Komets2727]

7 minutes ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

Hard to believe that was 28 years ago . I was there with my 10 year old daughter freezing our ass off . I'm thinking Snider gives Carroll a much better game this go around .  

I’m hoping you are right

[BTF]

10 hours ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

Hard to believe that was 28 years ago . I was there with my 10 year old daughter freezing our ass off . I'm thinking Snider gives Carroll a much better game this go around .  

That was back in the day when fans traveled well. There were more Penn fans there on that rainy muddy night than there are fans nowadays on a perfect evening. 

[Justasportsfan]

19 hours ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

Would be awesome if Penn pulls the shocker and takes out CP and Snider takes out Carroll . Be like old times for the Regional . 

Id tailgate for that!

[Boilernation]

3 hours ago, BTF said:

That was back in the day when fans traveled well. There were more Penn fans there on that rainy muddy night than there are fans nowadays on a perfect evening. 

Snider rolled into the '94 5A Semi State at Portage with multiple charter busses and completely packed the visitor side, which was before Portage replaced their bleachers and had a fairly large visitor side. No chance that happens in 2024. To easy to avoid the long drive west on 30 and just watch the game on Summit City Sports. 

[Boilernation]

16 hours ago, BTF said:

I have to agree. Would probably be safe to say that their offense is in the bottom half of 6A. And that's not an insult to their program considering there's about 20 teams in 6A that would be considered "very good" football teams regardless of class. They have some big kids and some athletes on that side of the ball, but something's obviously missing. Their "athletes" burnt Snider on a few pretty big plays, but ultimately couldn't do much after the "big play."

And those big plays were on poorly thrown jump balls. I just don't understand why a team would go spread and try to throw the ball around the field when accuracy is a major issue. 

[Justasportsfan]

17 hours ago, BTF said:

I have to agree. Would probably be safe to say that their offense is in the bottom half of 6A. And that's not an insult to their program considering there's about 20 teams in 6A that would be considered "very good" football teams regardless of class. They have some big kids and some athletes on that side of the ball, but something's obviously missing. Their "athletes" burnt Snider on a few pretty big plays, but ultimately couldn't do much after the "big play."

Not passing blame..their play calling could use some adjustments maybe..veer..trap..veer..I kid 

[PDB26]

19 minutes ago, Justasportsfan said:

Not passing blame..their play calling could use some adjustments maybe..veer..trap..veer..I kid 

But only kind of.

[WestfieldRocks]

23 hours ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

I'm still not sold on CP winning a Semistate game against an INDY area team this year . They may win the Regional but it ends there . Crown Point has only played 3 teams with a winning record . 

Especially if they have to travel down this way. I'd assume it would be a Friday night game like last year, and not moved to Saturday? By the way, is that a decision made by the home team, both schools agreement, or an IHSAA decision as to what day those long road trip games are played. I remember when Westfield played at Tell City for a 2A Semi-State. That game was moved to a late afternoon Saturday start.

[BTF]

2 hours ago, Boilernation said:

Snider rolled into the '94 5A Semi State at Portage with multiple charter busses and completely packed the visitor side, which was before Portage replaced their bleachers and had a fairly large visitor side. No chance that happens in 2024. To easy to avoid the long drive west on 30 and just watch the game on Summit City Sports. 

Correct, in the 80's and 90's it was common to see 1500-2500 fans travel to see those games. Now you're looking at 200-800 depending on how deep in the playoffs we get. However, I'm willing to bet Merrillville brought approximately 1500 to Fort Wayne last year. 

[RocksFan23]

35 minutes ago, WestfieldRocks said:

Especially if they have to travel down this way. I'd assume it would be a Friday night game like last year, and not moved to Saturday? By the way, is that a decision made by the home team, both schools agreement, or an IHSAA decision as to what day those long road trip games are played. I remember when Westfield played at Tell City for a 2A Semi-State. That game was moved to a late afternoon Saturday start.

I've always understood it to be the away team's choice, with some coaches not wanting to veer from the routine of a Friday night game, or the alternative, choosing Saturday and not making that long trip after a day of being in school. Especially in recent years in 3A/4A, where Lawrenceburg and East Central have been regularly running into the Gibson Southern and Memorial's of the world, those always ended up on Saturdays. 

2021 Lawrenceburg at Gibson Southern still one of the best atmospheres I've seen.

[GOLDRUSH1985]

2 hours ago, WestfieldRocks said:

Especially if they have to travel down this way. I'd assume it would be a Friday night game like last year, and not moved to Saturday? By the way, is that a decision made by the home team, both schools agreement, or an IHSAA decision as to what day those long road trip games are played. I remember when Westfield played at Tell City for a 2A Semi-State. That game was moved to a late afternoon Saturday start.

I'm sure nobody is looking forward to playing you guys right now . Since your loss to Brownsburg , you have taken everyone behind the woodshed for an old fashioned beating . 

[WestfieldRocks]

On 11/4/2024 at 2:43 PM, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

I'm sure nobody is looking forward to playing you guys right now . Since your loss to Brownsburg , you have taken everyone behind the woodshed for an old fashioned beating . 

Well, Zionsville was right in our conference game here in September until the 4th qtr. I also look for HSE to take out Fishers, and our conference game with them went to OT. Maybe the loss at Brownsburg was a good thing, because that game was right there for the taking, but they just didn't get it done. Who knows!

[FastpacedO]

2 hours ago, WestfieldRocks said:

Well, Zionsville was right in our conference game here in September until the 4th qtr. I also look for HSE to take out Fishers, and our conference game with them went to OT. Maybe the loss at Brownsburg was a good thing, because that game was right there for the taking, but they just didn't get it done. Who knows!

Also didn't help with Melvin getting knocked out of the Brownsburg game in the 3rd qtr. losing 17-13

[temptation]

Temp's 6A Title Odds...who is the best value?

Lawrence North - 3/1

Westfield - 3/1

Brownsburg - 5/1

Center Grove - 6/1

Cathedral - 7/1

Crown Point - 10/1

Warren Central - 10/1

Hamilton Southeastern - 12/1

Fishers - 15/1

Carroll (Fort Wayne) - 20/1

Ben Davis - 25/1

Fort Wayne Snider - 40/1

Zionsville - 50/1

Penn - 60/1

Franklin Central - 60/1

Perry Meridian - 100/1

 

 

[Footballking16]

HSE best value, Brownsburg best bet

[Justasportsfan]

Wc

[WestfieldRocks]

4 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

Also didn't help with Melvin getting knocked out of the Brownsburg game in the 3rd qtr. losing 17-13

True. That was one of the three times that Westfield went for it on 4th and goal. This one he was stopped short. Same with one other time. I do believe that if Melvin is in the game in the 4th, they may well have won and be undefeated at this time.

[BTF]

The Top 8 looks pretty good. Nine through twelve is a crapshoot though. The gap Temp has between Fishers and Snider is way too wide. Probably shouldn't be a gap at all. I might even place Carroll ahead of Fishers.............body of work. 

[temptation]

17 minutes ago, BTF said:

The Top 8 looks pretty good. Nine through twelve is a crapshoot though. The gap Temp has between Fishers and Snider is way too wide. Probably shouldn't be a gap at all. I might even place Carroll ahead of Fishers.............body of work. 

C’mon.  Just look at how both matched up against HSE.

[BTF]

47 minutes ago, temptation said:

C’mon.  Just look at how both matched up against HSE.

I've been saying the last few years that you're one of the least biased posters on the forum. That stock is going downhill fast. Transitive property only seems to make sense when it favors Indy. What you're telling me is that Snider would beat HSE this year and Ben Davis last year? C'mon Temp. You even mentioned earlier in the year that Snider's best shot at beating WC was in Week 1, given that WC would improve throughout the season. Is Carroll no better now than they were in Week 1? Based on your logic, I'm very close to anointing Snider as the mythical all around champion of 2023 if you want to keep playing this game. 

[FastpacedO]

12 hours ago, BTF said:

The Top 8 looks pretty good. Nine through twelve is a crapshoot though. The gap Temp has between Fishers and Snider is way too wide. Probably shouldn't be a gap at all. I might even place Carroll ahead of Fishers.............body of work. 

With Sturgill at QB for Fishers I would keep Fishers above Carroll. Without Sturgill I would place Carroll ahead. Their back-up has played solid, but I feel Sturgill brings a lot more to their offense with his mobility along with throwing the ball. 

He got knocked out with just over 6 minutes in the 4th qtr with a 27-24 lead in a Week 5 31-30 loss to Brownsburg. He was 17 of 29 for 277 yds 1 TD 0 Int, and had 8 carries for 40 yds 1 TD before being injured. Not sure if he will be back for the Tigers this year, but with him they are a very solid team.

[Bash Riprock]

Really nIce article about the Center Grove and Franklin Central matchup tonight and the relationship between coaches Eric Moore and Jayson West.

https://dailyjournal.net/2024/11/07/former-colleagues-carry-mixed-emotions-into-sectional-matchup/

[psaboy]

On 11/4/2024 at 12:25 PM, BTF said:

Correct, in the 80's and 90's it was common to see 1500-2500 fans travel to see those games. Now you're looking at 200-800 depending on how deep in the playoffs we get. However, I'm willing to bet Merrillville brought approximately 1500 to Fort Wayne last year. 

That would have been a hard & long drive home for those fans last year 😊

[BDGiant93]

I'm not a betting man, but I'd take 25/1 odds on Ben Davis. I'd probably lose my money, but I'd take 'em. I think that's fair, too.