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Lol. Yeah, you can say that. It's definitely more blue collar than it was 30 years ago. Many white collar families in the area send their kids to Bishop Dwenger, Concordia, and Blackhawk Christian. And for anyone wondering, the money comment about the Snider district is mainly due to the amount of homes in St. Joe Township. Per capita income certainly isn't what it is in the outlaying districts. Back in the 80's, I imagine that Snider was probably in the top half of 5a in enrollment. But as other communities grew, Snider's enrollment shrunk. So they were probably in the bottom half sometime in the late 90's, and certainly toward the bottom their last ten years in the big school division. Free lunch rate was probably in the teens in the 80's and slowly crept up to where we are now in the 40's. That being said, Snider is where they belong at the 5a level, but will gladly compete with the 6a big boys with any opportunity they get. They'll be good in 2022, but whether they are 'Snider of old' good remains to be seen.

........or the failure by some to understand basic genetics and biology and recognition of a level playing field

IHSAA rules only apply to IHSAA sanctioned sports. Is it fair? No. But it's also not fair that I'm overweight and losing my hair.

I'd add coaches in other sports who discourage students from participating in multiple sports.

Lack of parent, administration & community support.

I'm in. I'll start my door to door sales pitch soon

So the 2 keys are 1) be a 1A school and 2) have Jack Kiser got it

Wait, I thought the “big lie” was something else?

We need to hold the media accountable as well. They are complicit in this BIG LIE.

I agree. Now, go out and find about another 100+ varsity-qualified officials.

That is not the source I was using nor the metric we were using here. We were using % of Free/Reduced lunch. I provided my source previously. Frankfort High School had a 41.66% mark for Free/Reduced lunch. Besides, doesn't really add the the discussion. They would fit right into @temptation arguement that if a school is in the bottom half of their class by enrollment, and above 50% free/reduced lunch, they likely do not see sustained success.

Great news.

What changed several years ago was removing the requirement one of the blocks needed to be delayed. A simultaneous high/low block was legal. The low block was defined as the knee or below which always seemed odd.

Actually a very easy call for the U. It's not where the pass crosses the sideline, it's where it lands or would have landed. As for the wings, they should not be in a huge hurry to move downfield unless a pass is thrown deep. And if a pass is thrown deep obviously it will have crossed the LOS. They'll usually have a good idea of the relation to the LOS.

Unintended consequence or intended? (#greatreset) https://thecovidworld.com/canadian-bank-runs-appear-to-be-under-way-as-the-trudeau-regime-declares-war-on-bank-assets-of-citizens/ Canadian Bank Runs Appear To Be Under Way As The Trudeau Regime Declares WAR On Bank Assets Of Citizens The COVID World post date: February 18th, 2022 By Mike Adams Thanks to the tyrannical actions of Chrystia Freeland — a Davos group devotee and the Deputy Prime Minister of Canada — the people of Canada are now rapidly withdrawing their funds from Canada’s largest banks. Three days ago, Freeland announced that Canada’s financial terrorism laws would be expanded to seize all funds — bank accounts, crypto, crowdfunding hubs, etc. — belonging to individuals who supported the peaceful convoy trucker protest… even if that person merely donated $10 to the convoy. And just like that, Chrystia Freeland broke the social contract between bank retail customers and the banks themselves. In one fell swoop, Freeland red-pilled the entire nation into understanding that their money isn’t safe in any bank in Canada, since the government can now seize all your private funds without due process, evidence or any rule of law. The entire promise of banking is that your deposits are your money and that you can withdraw them at any time. But Trudeau and Freeland just declared that all your bank deposits are their assets, and they can loot them at any time without notice, without any due process whatsoever. Suddenly the question emerges in the minds of everyone: So why deposit anything in the banks in the first place? The lawless dictatorship of Trudeau / Freeland Under the invocation of emergency powers, Canada’s government has become a lawless dictatorship, and they are using their tyrannical powers to loot the bank accounts of innocent people who merely want to participate in the peaceful protest against medical tyranny. Making good on the threat, not only have private bank accounts been seized by the Canadian government regime, Trudeau has ordered crypto exchanges to seize the funds of 34 crypto wallets now named by the government itself. These 34 crypto wallets are apparently being used to help fund the peaceful protesters, and the tyrannical (lawless) government of Canada has decided to declare all-out war against cryptocurrency in order to try to stop the bouncy castles and honking. Ezra Levant of RebelNews.com tweeted out: The answer, of course, is a classic bank run as the people of Canada rush to pull their deposits out of the country’s banks before the government steals all their money. The dynamic duo of Trudeau and Freeland, in less than 30 days, has managed to reveal to the people of Canada that not only is their government a terrorist authoritarian regime, but that all their life savings and business assets can and will be looted by that same government without notice, for almost any reason whatsoever. It’s amazing: The Trudeau regime is red pilling people faster than Alex Jones.

My first exposure to serious football was my best friend's much older brother playing for Coach Wilbur at BD.

And we have a winner. Funny. Something major is coming up around November. The timeline looks OH TOO FAMILIAR from 2 years ago. Watch for constant red flags (look here, NOT there). Just so glad CT is over and the innocent kids stop getting screwed.

Excellent example. I believe there are a few more factors that are in play. It appears he has complete support from upper admin-building admin (philosophy, hiring of staff that teach at MCSC, etc.)

I like the changes! The Intentional Grounding Rule is now aligned with every level of college football and the NFL. Good change!

Medical field? You keep making comments and assumptions about me that are grossly inaccurate. Not only is it a tad creepy, but ignorant. Now unless you are a biologist or a geneticist with some very compelling science regarding basic reproductive theories that have been proved wrong, then you don't have anything other than a political opinion, which as you commonly remind this forum, that those are best served somewhere else other than the football threads. Since I refuse to follow you any further down this rabbit hole, you ride your own horse and believe the way you want. Just realize others may not desire the kool-aid you are offering.

Your point holds, but I think the right coach can make up for some of this. Since Phil Mason took over at MC 6 years ago, they’ve won 3 regionals. They’re one of the smallest schools in 5A and while I’m not sure, I’d bet the house they’re over 50% free/reduced lunch.

Yes Sir. Logic and Science is lost on some. Nice try.

extra insulation comes in handy during the winter months, and sexy guys like us don't lose hair....it just moves around to other parts of the body......

Bingo! (pun intended)

Don't forget the tip boards and raffles!

Conference Indiana has just been kind of surviving for years. Just kind of going along with members peeling off slowly. It's just kind of a group of schools that don't have anywhere else to go right now. Big schools that have no other big schools really around them interested in forming a conference... So, I think if a better offer comes along, I think you could definitely see some movement. As we saw with the departure of Carmel/CG from the MIC, rumors quickly can become reality. I get the feeling that the Mid-State is happy where it is right now. It's a fantastic conference that's very competitive.

Even a "unsuccessful" program can have success if it's providing opportunities for students to use athletics as a basis to stay in school, to stay focused on academics and to improve themselves as people. The win-loss results are an indicator of success to the outside world. Sometimes a loss can teach us more than a win. Overcoming adversity can teach us about ourselves. And, we all know that one great vision can turn a program around...especially when a school is ready to support that program. No one would have considered Ben Davis a success in 1973 when Bob Otolski was hired as head coach, stayed a couple of months, then bolted for IU. BD brought in alumnus Bob Wilbur. The Giants were 97-212-12 as a program. Coach Wilbur began to build the program. That got the attention of Carmel's coach at the time, Dick Dullaghan. Coach D will tell you he first began to realize what BD could be when Wilbur's Giants thumped his 1977 Greyhounds team in Sectional. When he left for stints at Purdue and Army with Jim Young and then decided to come back to high school, Ben Davis ended up being his destination. His vision with a supportive administration that wanted to win and a first-class and innovative weight program combined with the talent always present on the Westside took the remains of the program that Wilbur began to build and created the Ben Davis program as we know it that now has a record of 513-379-12 with nine State Championships. I think many have hit on what makes a program successful. I think it's also very difficult to break the cycle of losing these days, so I'd define success as focused more on students and outcomes rather than W-L (which is what we tend to look at from the outside as successful).

@Footballking16 doesn’t understand that it’s a moving target. He will bend, stretch and move the goalposts however far is necessary to try to deflect from the facts staring him right in the face. Its extremely entertaining.

Yep, the State Street and Maplecrest corridor has definitely turned into a ghetto. Way different from I was running those streets in the 70's & early 80's.

@Thor77 you know my stance from Indianamat about my displeasure with the IHSAA as well as the OHSAA. I think the national governing body NFHS needs revamped as well. The biggest problem is not working well enough with the coaches associations of each sport.

The socioeconomics of Snider High School have changed dramatically in the last 10-20 years. They were well below 50 percent (hell well below 40 percent) in the mid 2000s and still hover right around 50% even today.

I admit, I don’t follow the Clinton Central cheerleading program that closely.

I agree with all.... I would add lack of a strong youth program and lack of investment by the head coach in the youth program. Strong feeders, with youth have a friday night vision, is a must.

An unsuccessful program thumps their chest after pounding an opponent with less resources than they do chanting "we're the best!"

I know this and so are other sports like boys volleyball and lacrosse. But how it fair for some to be able to travel to such things and not others

Not all encompassing and in no particular order: Where kids are more important than the team. Parents more concerned with position, playing time, and recruiting than winning. Where coaches aren't willing to put the time into preparation and/or building a program rather than just a team. Lack of or inconsistent culture. Bitching about opponents having unfair advantages. Avoiding playing teams that would make your team better. Unsupportive administration. Lack of a sufficient strength and conditioning program. Coaches who are unwilling to adapt their style to the different personalities of players and coaches. And obviously too many free lunches. 🙄

Not defending the travel rule but cheerleading isn't an IHSAA sanctioned sport.

Darn. I won't be able to rub it in his face or Ellenwoods when Trump loses

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/justin-trudeau-safety-totalitarian-live-not-by-lies/ Safety! Of course. Keep this in mind when you see how the young are being taught that an “unsafe space” is intolerable. Whatever you think about the Truckers’ protest, this is going to be the reason that and the means by which a future American regime will use to punish its enemies — especially once we go to a cashless society. From Live Not By Lies: Now the Canadian state is learning from the Chinese … and the American state will learn from the Canadians. This is why I wrote Live Not By Lies — to wake up Americans who are, or are likely to be, dissidents from the emerging soft totalitarian regime, and show us ways to prepare. Read the signs of the times! I agree with Mr. Dreher, an ominous sign of things to come here in the U.S.A.

What about Snider’s long term success when there was only 5 classes? 6A been around for a handful of years.