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On 4/13/2022 at 10:16 AM, Muda69 said:

If this comes to pass the drive between Frankfort and Jay County is a ball buster, especially with $4 gallons of gas.  The IHSAA would need to kick in a gas stipend for such a ridiculous drive.  Or maybe both sides could agree on a neutral site, say at Alexandria, Frankton, or Elwood.

 

 

Nah, I used to drive FW to Frankfort every day to work.  Haha.  Once in a while is a piece of cake.  

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21 minutes ago, Robert said:

Nah, I used to drive FW to Frankfort every day to work.  Haha.  Once in a while is a piece of cake.  

Not everyone is a glutton for punishment, and spending tons of gas $, like you are Robert.

 

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18 minutes ago, whiteshoes said:

Any bets on who wins the Class 3A title next season?

Do we get odds? :classic_laugh:

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49 minutes ago, superjay said:

Hearing Chatard, Guerin and Mishawaka Marian are in same sectional.  It’s a straight shot up US31.

Wonder what the odds are that honorary P/P, West Lafayette, will be in that sectional too?

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Directors meet today, Exec Committee meets tomorrow (5/3).  Sectional assignments could be released any time after that.

Side note:  Appears IHSAA may be voting to throw out/modify the 300 mile rule for contests.

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What happened with Pioneer?  I would bet the farm that when the reclassifications came out that Pioneer was listed as a 2A staying up because of SF.  It is even listed that way in the maps created in the original post for this topic.  What happened?

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Class 2A SOUTHERN FOOTBALL SECTIONALS
 
When you look at a map there are 16 teams in the south, 8 teams in the southeast {sectional 39 below} and 8 teams in the southwest {sectional 40 below}, which would have been two perfect geographical based sectionals.  Then sectional 37 would have been Indianapolis then to the West, while sectional 38 would have been Indianapolis then to the East. Both sectional 37 & 38 would also have been better geographically which I describe later on. 
This would NOT affect the 4 northern sectionals.
 
CLASS 2A SOUTHERN SECTIONALS BASED ON GEOGRAPHY
37- Cascade, Christel House, Greencastle, Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter, Indianapolis Scecina Memorial, North Putnam, South Vermillion & Southmont
 
38- Eastern Hancock, Heritage Christian, Lapel, Northeastern, Shenandoah, Triton Central, Union County & Winchester
 
39- Brown County, Brownstown Central, Clarksville, Crawford County, Eastern {Pekin}, Mitchell, Paoli & Switzerland County
 
40- Evansville Mater Dei, Forest Park, Linton-Stockton, North Knox, North Posey, Perry Central, Sullivan & Tell City
 
        Sectional 40- was an easy adjustment, why was it changed??
        a} Past 3 years Linton-Stockton & North Knox have been in sectional 40, why move them to sectional 37?
        b} South Spencer dropped to 1A, Sullivan dropped to 2A, easy switch, put Sullivan in Sectional 40. They have been in Sectional 40 before.
        c} Perry Central moved up to 2A- they are farther west then Crawford County, Perry Central in sectional 40 and move Crawford County to 39.
 
Approved Sectionals
Instead of what's listed above the Class 2A sectional 39 that was approved, has one team on the Ohio River {Switzerland County}, plus Eastern, Clarksville and Brownstown Central having to drive to Indianapolis {Scecina Memorial HS, Christel House HS & Triton Central HS} instead of being in the same sectional as Paoli, Mitchell & Crawford County. To be honest, this does not make any sense to us? 
 
Listed below are different mileage Comparison for sectionals 37, 38, 39 & 40
 
1} Approved Sectional 39
    a} Brownstown Central - 
        to Scecina Memorial 77 miles
         to Christel House 71 miles,      
         to Triton Central  68 miles
    
  b} Clarksville - 
         to Scecina Memorial 114 miles, 
         to Christel House 107 miles,
         to Triton Central  104 miles
 
   c}  Eastern
        to Scecina Memorial 113 miles
        to Christel House 108 miles
        to Triton Central  105 miles
 
   d} Switzerland County- 
       to Scecina Memorial 105 miles
        to Christel House 108 miles
        to Triton Central  88 miles
 
 
2} Geographical based sectional 39 that's listed above- 
    All 4 schools are considerably closer to Crawford Co, Mitchell & Paoli then to Scecina Memorial, Christel House & Triton Central
   a} Brownstown Central 
       to Crawford County 62 miles       
       to Paoli  43 miles                    
       to Mitchell  36 miles
 
   b} Clarksville                    
      to Crawford County 43 miles      
      to Paoli  48 miles                    
      to Mitchell  56 miles
 
   c} Eastern                       
       to Crawford County 38 miles      
       to Paoli  32 miles                   
       to Mitchell  35 miles
 
   d} Switzerland County     
       to Crawford County 112 miles     
       to Paoli   84 miles                   
       to Mitchell 86 miles
 
 
3} Mileage Comparison For Scecina Memorial in sectional 37 listed above instead of approved sectional 39- 
    All schools are closer to Scecina (and Christel House) in this sectional 37- then the approved sectional 39
    to South Vermillion  98 miles      
    to Southmont 55 miles
    to North Putnam 52 miles
    to Greencastle 48 miles
    to Cascade 36 miles
 
 
4} Mileage Comparison for Triton Central in sectional 38 listed above instead of approved sectional 39- 
    All schools are closer to Triton Central in this sectional 38- then the approved sectional 39
   to Winchester 85 miles
   to Northeastern  85 miles
   to Union County 60 miles
   to Shenandoah 46 miles
   to Lapel  45 miles
  to Eastern Hancock 29 Miles
 
 
5} Mileage Comparison - Geographical based sectional 40, compared with approved sectional 39- 
    All 3 schools have less travel in Sectional 40- then Brownstown Central, Clarksville, Eastern & Switzerland County have in approved 39.
   Sullivan -        
    to Perry Central 101 miles       
    to Forest Park  80 miles     
    to North Posey  79 miles   
    to Mater Dei 87 miles
 
   Linton-           
    to Perry Central  91 miles       
    to Forest Park  69 miles   
     to North Posey  83 miles     
     to Mater Dei 98 miles
 
   North Knox-   
    to Perry Central  82 miles      
    to Forest Park  60 miles  
    to North Posey   65 miles     
    to Mater Dei 73 miles
 
 
In conclusion, over the past few months the IHSAA has made some changes in regards to mistakes made in enrollment classifications (with the private schools) and the success factor (with Pioneer).  Hopefully they will take the time to look over the approved Class 2A sectional assignments and realize that there is a better geographical way to align the south. With inflation and the rise in gas prices it would benefit all schools to align the sectionals based on geography.
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On 4/11/2022 at 4:58 PM, crimsonace1 said:

A few changes from what we had expected ... 

Bishop Chatard listed in Class 3A (instead of success bump to 4A). Adjustment in Culver Academies' enrollment pushes them to 4A. River Forest was on the 2A/3A line, they go up to 3A. 

Class changes

New in 6A
Zionsville (up)
Jeffersonville (up)
FW Northrop (up)
Cathedral (up-success)

New in 5A
Chesterton (down)
Merrillville (down)
FW Snider (down)
Hammond Morton (up)

New in 4A
Kokomo (down)
Bedford NL (down)
New Palestine (down)
Ind. Washington (up)
Ev. Bosse (up)
Brebeuf (up)
Edgewood (up)
SB Washington (up)

New in 3A
Delta (down)
SB Clay (down)
Madison (down)
South Dearborn (down)
Ind. Chatard (down)
Griffith (down)
Purdue Poly - Indy (new)
Woodlan (up)
Speedway (up)
Fairfield (up)
Monrovia (up)
Boone Grove (up)
Western Boone (up)

New in 2A
Benton Central (down)
Brown County (down)
Ind. Ritter (down)
Brownstown (down)
Greencastle (down)
Sullivan (down)
Churubusco (up)
Lake Station (up)
Winamac (up)

New in 1A
North Newton (down)
Gary Bowman (down)
Dugger Union (new)

NOTE: FW Dwenger (5A) and Lafayette Catholic (2A) will be reevaluated and possibly moved back down a class if they do not win a sectional title this upcoming year. 

Official classes

Maps of each classification

Snider was 5A last year. 

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6 hours ago, coachmay said:
Class 2A SOUTHERN FOOTBALL SECTIONALS
 
When you look at a map there are 16 teams in the south, 8 teams in the southeast {sectional 39 below} and 8 teams in the southwest {sectional 40 below}, which would have been two perfect geographical based sectionals.  Then sectional 37 would have been Indianapolis then to the West, while sectional 38 would have been Indianapolis then to the East. Both sectional 37 & 38 would also have been better geographically which I describe later on. 
This would NOT affect the 4 northern sectionals.
 
CLASS 2A SOUTHERN SECTIONALS BASED ON GEOGRAPHY
37- Cascade, Christel House, Greencastle, Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter, Indianapolis Scecina Memorial, North Putnam, South Vermillion & Southmont
 
38- Eastern Hancock, Heritage Christian, Lapel, Northeastern, Shenandoah, Triton Central, Union County & Winchester
 
39- Brown County, Brownstown Central, Clarksville, Crawford County, Eastern {Pekin}, Mitchell, Paoli & Switzerland County
 
40- Evansville Mater Dei, Forest Park, Linton-Stockton, North Knox, North Posey, Perry Central, Sullivan & Tell City
 
        Sectional 40- was an easy adjustment, why was it changed??
        a} Past 3 years Linton-Stockton & North Knox have been in sectional 40, why move them to sectional 37?
        b} South Spencer dropped to 1A, Sullivan dropped to 2A, easy switch, put Sullivan in Sectional 40. They have been in Sectional 40 before.
        c} Perry Central moved up to 2A- they are farther west then Crawford County, Perry Central in sectional 40 and move Crawford County to 39.
 
Approved Sectionals
Instead of what's listed above the Class 2A sectional 39 that was approved, has one team on the Ohio River {Switzerland County}, plus Eastern, Clarksville and Brownstown Central having to drive to Indianapolis {Scecina Memorial HS, Christel House HS & Triton Central HS} instead of being in the same sectional as Paoli, Mitchell & Crawford County. To be honest, this does not make any sense to us? 
 
Listed below are different mileage Comparison for sectionals 37, 38, 39 & 40
 
1} Approved Sectional 39
    a} Brownstown Central - 
        to Scecina Memorial 77 miles
         to Christel House 71 miles,      
         to Triton Central  68 miles
    
  b} Clarksville - 
         to Scecina Memorial 114 miles, 
         to Christel House 107 miles,
         to Triton Central  104 miles
 
   c}  Eastern
        to Scecina Memorial 113 miles
        to Christel House 108 miles
        to Triton Central  105 miles
 
   d} Switzerland County- 
       to Scecina Memorial 105 miles
        to Christel House 108 miles
        to Triton Central  88 miles
 
 
2} Geographical based sectional 39 that's listed above- 
    All 4 schools are considerably closer to Crawford Co, Mitchell & Paoli then to Scecina Memorial, Christel House & Triton Central
   a} Brownstown Central 
       to Crawford County 62 miles       
       to Paoli  43 miles                    
       to Mitchell  36 miles
 
   b} Clarksville                    
      to Crawford County 43 miles      
      to Paoli  48 miles                    
      to Mitchell  56 miles
 
   c} Eastern                       
       to Crawford County 38 miles      
       to Paoli  32 miles                   
       to Mitchell  35 miles
 
   d} Switzerland County     
       to Crawford County 112 miles     
       to Paoli   84 miles                   
       to Mitchell 86 miles
 
 
3} Mileage Comparison For Scecina Memorial in sectional 37 listed above instead of approved sectional 39- 
    All schools are closer to Scecina (and Christel House) in this sectional 37- then the approved sectional 39
    to South Vermillion  98 miles      
    to Southmont 55 miles
    to North Putnam 52 miles
    to Greencastle 48 miles
    to Cascade 36 miles
 
 
4} Mileage Comparison for Triton Central in sectional 38 listed above instead of approved sectional 39- 
    All schools are closer to Triton Central in this sectional 38- then the approved sectional 39
   to Winchester 85 miles
   to Northeastern  85 miles
   to Union County 60 miles
   to Shenandoah 46 miles
   to Lapel  45 miles
  to Eastern Hancock 29 Miles
 
 
5} Mileage Comparison - Geographical based sectional 40, compared with approved sectional 39- 
    All 3 schools have less travel in Sectional 40- then Brownstown Central, Clarksville, Eastern & Switzerland County have in approved 39.
   Sullivan -        
    to Perry Central 101 miles       
    to Forest Park  80 miles     
    to North Posey  79 miles   
    to Mater Dei 87 miles
 
   Linton-           
    to Perry Central  91 miles       
    to Forest Park  69 miles   
     to North Posey  83 miles     
     to Mater Dei 98 miles
 
   North Knox-   
    to Perry Central  82 miles      
    to Forest Park  60 miles  
    to North Posey   65 miles     
    to Mater Dei 73 miles
 
 
In conclusion, over the past few months the IHSAA has made some changes in regards to mistakes made in enrollment classifications (with the private schools) and the success factor (with Pioneer).  Hopefully they will take the time to look over the approved Class 2A sectional assignments and realize that there is a better geographical way to align the south. With inflation and the rise in gas prices it would benefit all schools to align the sectionals based on geography.

They already been approved. These are official we’re voted on and everything so there won’t be a fix 

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I apologize for reposting but it was pointed out to me that in #5 I convenientely left out the distance from Sullivan, Linton & North Knox to Tell City. I added those mileage comparison, which except for Sullivan to Tell City the other 2 are still shorter than the drives in the approved sectional 39. 
 
 
 
When you look at a map there are 16 teams in the south, 8 teams in the southeast {sectional 39 below} and 8 teams in the southwest {sectional 40 below}, which would have been two perfect geographical based sectionals.  Then sectional 37 would have been Indianapolis then to the West, while sectional 38 would have been Indianapolis then to the East. Both sectional 37 & 38 would also have been better geographically which I describe later on. 
This would NOT affect the 4 northern sectionals.
 
CLASS 2A SOUTHERN SECTIONALS BASED ON GEOGRAPHY
37- Cascade, Christel House, Greencastle, Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter, Indianapolis Scecina Memorial, North Putnam, South Vermillion & Southmont
 
38- Eastern Hancock, Heritage Christian, Lapel, Northeastern, Shenandoah, Triton Central, Union County & Winchester
 
39- Brown County, Brownstown Central, Clarksville, Crawford County, Eastern {Pekin}, Mitchell, Paoli & Switzerland County
 
40- Evansville Mater Dei, Forest Park, Linton-Stockton, North Knox, North Posey, Perry Central, Sullivan & Tell City
 
        Sectional 40- was an easy adjustment, why was it changed??
        a} Past 3 years Linton-Stockton & North Knox have been in sectional 40, why move them to sectional 37?
        b} South Spencer dropped to 1A, Sullivan dropped to 2A, easy switch, put Sullivan in Sectional 40. They have been in Sectional 40 before.
        c} Perry Central moved up to 2A- they are farther west then Crawford County, Perry Central in sectional 40 and move Crawford County to 39.
 
 
 
Approved Sectionals
Instead of what's listed above the Class 2A sectional 39 that was approved, has one team on the Ohio River {Switzerland County}, plus Eastern, Clarksville and Brownstown Central having to drive to Indianapolis {Scecina Memorial HS, Christel House HS & Triton Central HS} instead of being in the same sectional as Paoli, Mitchell & Crawford County. To be honest, this does not make any sense to us? 
 
Listed below are different mileage Comparison for sectionals 37, 38, 39 & 40
 
1} Approved Sectional 39
    a} Brownstown Central - 
        to Scecina Memorial 77 miles
         to Christel House 71 miles,      
         to Triton Central  68 miles
    
  b} Clarksville - 
         to Scecina Memorial 114 miles, 
         to Christel House 107 miles,
         to Triton Central  104 miles
 
   c}  Eastern
        to Scecina Memorial 113 miles
        to Christel House 108 miles
        to Triton Central  105 miles
 
   d} Switzerland County- 
       to Scecina Memorial 105 miles
        to Christel House 108 miles
        to Triton Central  88 miles
 
 
2} Geographical based sectional 39 that's listed above- 
    All 4 schools are considerably closer to Crawford Co, Mitchell & Paoli then to Scecina Memorial, Christel House & Triton Central
   a} Brownstown Central 
       to Crawford County 62 miles       
       to Paoli  43 miles                    
       to Mitchell  36 miles
 
   b} Clarksville                    
      to Crawford County 43 miles      
      to Paoli  48 miles                    
      to Mitchell  56 miles
 
   c} Eastern                       
       to Crawford County 38 miles      
       to Paoli  32 miles                   
       to Mitchell  35 miles
 
   d} Switzerland County     
       to Crawford County 112 miles     
       to Paoli   84 miles                   
       to Mitchell 86 miles
 
 
3} Mileage Comparison For Scecina Memorial in sectional 37 listed above instead of approved sectional 39- 
    All schools are closer to Scecina (and Christel House) in this sectional 37- then the approved sectional 39
    to South Vermillion  98 miles      
    to Southmont 55 miles
    to North Putnam 52 miles
    to Greencastle 48 miles
    to Cascade 36 miles
 
 
4} Mileage Comparison for Triton Central in sectional 38 listed above instead of approved sectional 39- 
    All schools are closer to Triton Central in this sectional 38- then the approved sectional 39
   to Winchester 85 miles
   to Northeastern  85 miles
   to Union County 60 miles
   to Shenandoah 46 miles
   to Lapel  45 miles
  to Eastern Hancock 29 Miles
 
 
5} Mileage Comparison - Geographical based sectional 40, compared with approved sectional 39- 
    All 3 schools have less travel in Sectional 40- then Brownstown Central, Clarksville, Eastern & Switzerland County have in approved 39, except Sullivan to Tell City
   Sullivan -      
   to Tell City 112 miles 
    to Perry Central 101 miles       
    to Forest Park  80 miles     
    to North Posey  79 miles   
    to Mater Dei 87 miles
 
   Linton-        
    to Tell City 98 miles   
    to Perry Central  91 miles       
    to Forest Park  69 miles   
     to North Posey  83 miles     
     to Mater Dei 98 miles
 
   North Knox-   
   to Tell City 86 miles 
    to Perry Central  82 miles      
    to Forest Park  60 miles  
    to North Posey   65 miles     
    to Mater Dei 73 miles
 
 
In conclusion, over the past few months you have made some changes in regards to mistakes made in enrollment classifications (with the private schools) and the success factor (with Pioneer).  Hopefully you will take the time to look over the approved Class 2A sectional assignments and realize that there is a better geographical way to align the south. With inflation and the rise in gas prices it would benefit all schools to align the sectionals based on geography.
Thank you for your time.
 
 
Reed May
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On 5/5/2022 at 12:59 PM, coachmay said:
I apologize for reposting but it was pointed out to me that in #5 I convenientely left out the distance from Sullivan, Linton & North Knox to Tell City. I added those mileage comparison, which except for Sullivan to Tell City the other 2 are still shorter than the drives in the approved sectional 39. 
 
 
 
When you look at a map there are 16 teams in the south, 8 teams in the southeast {sectional 39 below} and 8 teams in the southwest {sectional 40 below}, which would have been two perfect geographical based sectionals.  Then sectional 37 would have been Indianapolis then to the West, while sectional 38 would have been Indianapolis then to the East. Both sectional 37 & 38 would also have been better geographically which I describe later on. 
This would NOT affect the 4 northern sectionals.
 
CLASS 2A SOUTHERN SECTIONALS BASED ON GEOGRAPHY
37- Cascade, Christel House, Greencastle, Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter, Indianapolis Scecina Memorial, North Putnam, South Vermillion & Southmont
 
38- Eastern Hancock, Heritage Christian, Lapel, Northeastern, Shenandoah, Triton Central, Union County & Winchester
 
39- Brown County, Brownstown Central, Clarksville, Crawford County, Eastern {Pekin}, Mitchell, Paoli & Switzerland County
 
40- Evansville Mater Dei, Forest Park, Linton-Stockton, North Knox, North Posey, Perry Central, Sullivan & Tell City
 
        Sectional 40- was an easy adjustment, why was it changed??
        a} Past 3 years Linton-Stockton & North Knox have been in sectional 40, why move them to sectional 37?
        b} South Spencer dropped to 1A, Sullivan dropped to 2A, easy switch, put Sullivan in Sectional 40. They have been in Sectional 40 before.
        c} Perry Central moved up to 2A- they are farther west then Crawford County, Perry Central in sectional 40 and move Crawford County to 39.
 
 
 
Approved Sectionals
Instead of what's listed above the Class 2A sectional 39 that was approved, has one team on the Ohio River {Switzerland County}, plus Eastern, Clarksville and Brownstown Central having to drive to Indianapolis {Scecina Memorial HS, Christel House HS & Triton Central HS} instead of being in the same sectional as Paoli, Mitchell & Crawford County. To be honest, this does not make any sense to us? 
 
Listed below are different mileage Comparison for sectionals 37, 38, 39 & 40
 
1} Approved Sectional 39
    a} Brownstown Central - 
        to Scecina Memorial 77 miles
         to Christel House 71 miles,      
         to Triton Central  68 miles
    
  b} Clarksville - 
         to Scecina Memorial 114 miles, 
         to Christel House 107 miles,
         to Triton Central  104 miles
 
   c}  Eastern
        to Scecina Memorial 113 miles
        to Christel House 108 miles
        to Triton Central  105 miles
 
   d} Switzerland County- 
       to Scecina Memorial 105 miles
        to Christel House 108 miles
        to Triton Central  88 miles
 
 
2} Geographical based sectional 39 that's listed above- 
    All 4 schools are considerably closer to Crawford Co, Mitchell & Paoli then to Scecina Memorial, Christel House & Triton Central
   a} Brownstown Central 
       to Crawford County 62 miles       
       to Paoli  43 miles                    
       to Mitchell  36 miles
 
   b} Clarksville                    
      to Crawford County 43 miles      
      to Paoli  48 miles                    
      to Mitchell  56 miles
 
   c} Eastern                       
       to Crawford County 38 miles      
       to Paoli  32 miles                   
       to Mitchell  35 miles
 
   d} Switzerland County     
       to Crawford County 112 miles     
       to Paoli   84 miles                   
       to Mitchell 86 miles
 
 
3} Mileage Comparison For Scecina Memorial in sectional 37 listed above instead of approved sectional 39- 
    All schools are closer to Scecina (and Christel House) in this sectional 37- then the approved sectional 39
    to South Vermillion  98 miles      
    to Southmont 55 miles
    to North Putnam 52 miles
    to Greencastle 48 miles
    to Cascade 36 miles
 
 
4} Mileage Comparison for Triton Central in sectional 38 listed above instead of approved sectional 39- 
    All schools are closer to Triton Central in this sectional 38- then the approved sectional 39
   to Winchester 85 miles
   to Northeastern  85 miles
   to Union County 60 miles
   to Shenandoah 46 miles
   to Lapel  45 miles
  to Eastern Hancock 29 Miles
 
 
5} Mileage Comparison - Geographical based sectional 40, compared with approved sectional 39- 
    All 3 schools have less travel in Sectional 40- then Brownstown Central, Clarksville, Eastern & Switzerland County have in approved 39, except Sullivan to Tell City
   Sullivan -      
   to Tell City 112 miles 
    to Perry Central 101 miles       
    to Forest Park  80 miles     
    to North Posey  79 miles   
    to Mater Dei 87 miles
 
   Linton-        
    to Tell City 98 miles   
    to Perry Central  91 miles       
    to Forest Park  69 miles   
     to North Posey  83 miles     
     to Mater Dei 98 miles
 
   North Knox-   
   to Tell City 86 miles 
    to Perry Central  82 miles      
    to Forest Park  60 miles  
    to North Posey   65 miles     
    to Mater Dei 73 miles
 
 
In conclusion, over the past few months you have made some changes in regards to mistakes made in enrollment classifications (with the private schools) and the success factor (with Pioneer).  Hopefully you will take the time to look over the approved Class 2A sectional assignments and realize that there is a better geographical way to align the south. With inflation and the rise in gas prices it would benefit all schools to align the sectionals based on geography.
Thank you for your time.
 
 
Reed May
Head Football Coach

infinite wisdom of IHSAA

 

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