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I think we got it now.

Holy hell! I hope the rest of the teams playing in the semi state don’t suck as bad as these guys. I gotta go

I believe I am going on close to 5 years since I turned on any sort of ESPN/FOX/NFL network talk show, pundit show, insert loud mouths in front TV type show. Its all garbage and meant to illicit responses and clicks, ESPN is on my TV for live sports that is it.

There you go with them fancy lawyerin words. That doesn’t usually come out until the weeee hours and empty liquor vessels.

Try Brad's brass flamingo Plenty of tvs to put the game on

Good God…get over yourself and the imputed false virtue….it’s boring and way too self-congratulating. My best bet is that you’ve never heard of Laurel, Indiana (God forbid got liquored up there at the Long Branch, rode/wrecked dirt bikes there…or have pre-teen scars from the muffler burns), long closed Whitewater HS…..or Fairfield, Indiana where my relative’s unremembered farm and family life is at the bottom of a reservoir. Being “from” a place doesn’t make anyone special….whether large or small. Neither does being a pretentious @sshole….whether large or small.

Well, having read the region sports board from the link above, some quotes are out there: 1. Merrillville’s defense is far superior to Snider - Wow, that is quite a statement. Not sure what games that poster watched of Snider, but the Panthers defense is pretty good. Must be the 11 D-1 starters on defense for the Pirates… 2. Snider hasn’t seen speed like Merrillville - Uh, Snider plays plenty of speed teams. FYI, Snider has plenty of speed as well… 3. The real state title game was Valpo vs. Merrillville - Let’s see how that plays out… Pretty damn sure Snider isn’t going to lay down against the Pirates and whoever comes out of the South is pretty damn good as well… It is only Tuesday so let’s see what else is said from the Region…

Ugly? As my fraternity brothers would say, “Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.’” I’m out of reactions, but this is me giving the rest of your post a standing ovation. Well, at least once I put the leg rest down on my Lazy Boy. My only question is who will be the other 5 teams to join Brebeuf, Chatard, and Roncalli in the IHSAA mandated sectional? I guess this is the thread where the p/p arguments came to reside. At least it’s better than arguing over the Knox High Commanders nickname.

Chatard has two kids that start both ways but multiple that get snaps on both sides depending on the situation. I think the 137 includes the freshman team. They started with 52 freshman and ended with 48. An absurd number of kids in a class of less than 200 (about half being boys). That’s how you know the entire school has a football culture and not just the football team. That football culture is a huge source of pride and the school identity. Everyone participates in Friday nights: Students, faculty, parents, alumni, people who just live in the neighborhood. That culture and football champion identity is why so many of the CYO kids choose to go there.

That was probably the last show I watched. I stopped years ago. The only way I watch any talking head show at this point is if I catch the tail end of a Fox or CBS pre-game show just before the Big Noon Kickoff on Fox or prior to the start of an NFL game. The absolute worst for me right now is Mike Greenburg. Just awful. I didn't think it was possible, but I found someone to rate below Skip Bayless.

There we go. I had to pinpoint the problem. If you read the now enhanced/bold words, you will likely find where the problem actually is. As someone that uses said words healthcare system for veterans, I can attest that they probably aren't good at running education platforms either.

I think you are out here arguing with yourself on this game. There is one Knox poster in this group and he/she has only said that the team has to believe they can win in order to win.

so just unlucky for those teams that his year's version of Chatard got to head back to 3a They would be very difficult to handle coming out of 4a North, wish we could get that East Central vs Chatard this year, that would be quite the slobberknocker

Or instead of “yes”, it could be “you” Not calling you one mind you; although @Lysander may have a different opinion 🤣🤣😂 just kidding. I love when topics get derailed 😂

My grandparents lived in Owensville. I spent many a weekend down there. my Aunt (Kickapoo Grad) and Uncle have lived there in the same house. I'm old enough to remember the Kickapoos and Twigs... Haubstaut, Cynthiana and Griffin (my Mom's alma mater! Altho I think that's North Posey turf.... amazing that 3 PAC schools are involved in Semi-States...

They will get help from pranksters

He can't spell acronyms correctly, what makes you think he can even USE words?

I bet you do! Maybe Chatard can exorcise those demons next year if we’re lucky enough to get a November matchup.

MY MAN!! Who are the 2 poor players who get left off the field if they punch their ticket? Unless IHSAA increased roster size over 75?

I just looked it up on the IHSAA site and it seems that IHSAAtv.org has cornered the market. The regionals is the last round other broadcasting stations (including the schools media depts.) could show the games. It says $12 for 1 game or all 12 for $20. Like I said before, it never hurts to ask the restaurant. I've had pretty good luck with asking (and I tip very well).

Thanks littledog…..you get it!

Gotta give the guy credit. Covering his ass on both ends…

Thats pretty funny that your take on my simple comment that nobody should be dismissed at this point is condescending and hard headed! Thats a good one and honestly sounds quite the opposite my friend. Its funny you go on a rant throwing shade on “rural” teams and people talking trash yet nobody mentioned that but you. Saying teams at the semi state level should not be dismissed is in no way talking trash. Unless you are incredibly sensitive! I am not and never have said that Knox is going to control Chatard because they played Lakeview (By the way, congrats on using max prep for that quick look up and that is meant to be condescending). The only thing I am saying and the only thing I have ever said is that NO team should be dismissed at this point in the tourney. I am not predicting a score or trash talking Chatard but…if you want to take it that way, good for you.

"It's 5:00 somewhere"

We are 3 1/2 weeks into this thing, and I have more questions than answers. Right off the top of my head: What was Conor Stalion’s actual job description at Michigan? To whom did he report? Where did the $$ come from to cover the cost of the “advance scouting?” The number I heard was tickets to 30 games, plus travel expenses. What happened to Stalion’s work product containing the information obtained through “advance scouting?” Has the allegation of a connection between Ryan Day and the private investigators who supplied the NCAA with evidence been conclusively debunked? If Ryan Day was not the instigator of the “investigation,” who was? Anyone have information on these issues?

You think the bar/restaurant will add the pay per view fee to your bill???

Semi-state pick: Bloomington South @ Decatur Central - This is a tough game to pick and DC has really been rolling in tournament play and will be playing at home. After giving up quite a few points on defense in their first seven games of the season, the Hawks have really clamped down and have given up just 6.2 ppg over their last five games to include a couple of shutouts. It's time that the Panthers get off the schneid when it comes to semi-state games. South has gone 0-4 in their last semi-state appearances since winning the state with Rex Grossman back in 1998. Their best showing in those games was an overtime loss to Cathedral back in 2014 with the Irish going on to win state. South has gotten off to slow starts in their last two games, letting both Seymour and Ev. North take very early 7-0 leads before South took over the games. South is averaging 46 ppg which is 5th in the state, while giving up 13.4 ppg on the season. South has not had a turnover in their last four games. The Hawks ran all over Whiteland to the tune of 362 yards on the ground last week and the question is, can they run on the Panthers' quick and speedy front seven with any consistency. We will see, and I see South winning a hard-fought game by 7 points.

I reserve that appellation for only the most deserving.

Ditto for little 1A Lcc... The Fort dosenst seem to understand that Great Lcc teams manage to somehow win over Great WL teams... but one of these two r gonna b eaten up by N Posey... what I heard.... so what's it matter...

Passion without knowledge = 💩

(From her:) I am reading it with my friend from Santa Claus, hunny. We have a lot to talk about tonight. Soon to be Ms Dumfries

I stomped the North Side playgrounds with my "Bit 'O Honey" after CJB finally checked into the nursing home. Have them all to myself these days.

I'll bet anyone $100 a PAC team plays at Lucas this year

Gag*

Seriously, are you like 10?

Whichever... teams are not people. Even if you were to use who/whom, it should be whoever ... it is replacing the subject. Also "lastly" because it is an adverb. Last is an adjective, so... "Whichever has the last ball (will win)"

Keep that Memorial Kryptonite away!!! Along with the Arctic weather. Go North Chatard!

Coach, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you don’t know the history of Chatard in 4A….but it’s going to be Tolstoy in length…but hardly as literary…I’ll leave that to @Muda and his misspelled acronyms. For the record, anyone bothering to read this likely should grab a cup of coffee. For the record, nobody is any less happy about Chatard being in 3A than Chatard football fans….at least this one, anyway. Pretty sure I represent a majority, though. With that, 4A is not always better than 3A..but it is in most years. Regardless, either 3A or 4A is almost always better than 5A – I include in this the 70% of the time 5A is ACTUALLY WON BY A BUMPED UP 4A TEAM. If Chatard could somehow ultimately claw its way through 4A into 5A, I doubt it would ever leave 5A. With that, let’s start with a recent history primer of Chatard in 3A and 4A (4A boldfaced and underlined😞 2013: (Year 1 of the Success Factor with 4 Points required to stay in 4A) Chatard wins Sectional v. Roncalli 28-8. They lose Regional, in a game that was decided late, v. New Palestine. This year was the start of New Pal’s great success under Coach Ralph. Their Chatard win was the first statewide sign something special was cooking there. Chatard earns 1 point. 2014: Chatard rolls over and supines itself to Roncalli 31-6 in Sectional after beating them 20-7 in the regular season. No further comment. Chatard earns 0 points…back to 3A. 2015: Chatard wins 3A State 2016: Chatard loses to Danville in 3A Sectional (Coach Vince Lorenzano’s last year) 2017: Chatard loses to Danville in 3A Sectional (Coach Rob Doyle’s first year) 2018: Chatard loses 3A Semi-State to Evansville Memorial…admittedly losing ugly. 2019: Chatard wins 3A State (CalPreps had Chatard ranked #3 All Classes…New Pal was ranked #1 All Classes) 2020: Chatard wins 3A State (CalPreps had Chatard ranked #6 All Classes). For the record, they beat later 4A state champion Roncalli 28-7 that year (Roncalli’s sole loss). 2021: Chatard loses to Roncalli in 4A Sectional 35-21. Lest folks forget, this was the year Roncalli with their monster line (just coming off a State Championship) was talked about much like East Central today….until they lost in an upset to Mt Vernon (who easily won State). Chatard earns 0 points. 2022: Chatard is put back in 3A (don’t ask me why…I still don’t understand it). Chatard wins 3A State. This is the history. Chatard has only ever been in 4A for 3 years. They’ve only been knocked out of 4A once in 2014 where they needed 4 points to stay up. That said, in 2024, have no doubt the slack jaws at the IHSAA will put Brebeuf, Chatard, Roncalli, Cincy Elder, Cincy St.X and Cincy Moeller in the same Sectional….or dream about it, anyway. Regardless, Brebeuf, Chatard and Roncalli WILL be in the same Sectional….because…. In its absolute worst years, Chatard will almost always be a top 5-10 4A team (I believe they should be in the North...for the record). Frankly, Chatard doesn’t seem to experience the same high/low swings Roncalli does. Still, historically Chatard will almost always also split 50/50 with Roncalli…who has a bit of a tradition, as well (but tends to have bigger “lows” than Chatard does in off years). When Roncalli is “good”, they’re “State Champion good”. Regardless, I have been told until my ears bleed that the IHSAA DEEPLY evaluates these Sectional groupings considering a multitude of factors including historic conferences…..yada, yada, yada….BS, BS, BS….smoke blowing up my hindquarters. Which has always been used to explain just how Roncalli’s next door, talking over the fence neighbor New Palestine is never paired with Roncalli in Sectional…but 45 minute North Indianapolis cross-county Chatard is ALWAYS paired with Roncalli. That said, can’t the IHSAA figure out a way to simply put Chatard, New Pal and Roncalli in 3 different Sectionals? Just that little effort would likely keep a prolonged and forever peace in 3A. Tragically, the IHSAA has continued to give us year after year the “Sectional of Death” in 3A (copyright to @foxbat) or equivalent which, by any consideration, is gerrymandered as Hell but always has Chatard in the crosshairs (along with every Indiana HS Catholic north of the Mason Dixon line)….but ultimately screws over tons of great teams like TV, HH, WL, Guerin and too many teams to mention. I’m still p!ssed off as to how badly Tippecanoe Valley was screwed over between Sectional pairings and the damn ping pong balls. I have no doubt they will continue that proud tradition into 4A next year…wherever those Catholic Schools might be. If the IHSAA truly gave a sh!t about the principle behind the Success Factor shouldn’t it ALSO be a consideration in that DEEP evaluation of Sectional pairings…or do you just let another equivalent of the 3A TW AD (some of you get the “code”) make the pairings in 4A as well? Up to this point, the IHSAA Sectional pairings appear nothing more than self-interested groupings by those school administrators involved in the decision making process with no actual consideration of the overall picture….those non-decision makers get the “Sectional of Death”. I’m as angry as anybody about Chatard being in 3A (whether they win or lose this Friday…or possibly the following week). The Success Factor can actually work if the IHSAA actively considers the principle behind it as regards Sectional groupings. I say this as someone who was a very vocal sceptic…just ask Coach Gallogly. If they don’t, and just allow it to become the playground for self-interested 4A ADs…like those behind the "Sectional of Death" in 3A, then nothing will be resolved. My guess is that, ultimately, those involved in the decision process at the IHSAA will most likely place self-interest over principle come Sectional announcement time. Please, prove me wrong. You can now return to the original thread....

Wishing both teams a healthy outcome that is so mentally taxing that they forget to go to practice for most of next week and then overeat on Thursday.

77 Varsity players for Chatard. @Lysander use to be a 3-way play (cooked, cleaned, and drove) now he retired. https://bishopchatardathletics.org/wp-content/uploads/Football-Roster.pdf

Might be the 3 biggest wins of Allen's coaching career 😁

I think some people would like to go back to the 1930's, when Catholic schools were not allowed to be members of the IHSAA.

Says the man who is even lazier and wants others to do the work for them.

Are you secretly a knox poster? I thought only rural communties had to deal with lag. lol

Oh, they’ll have some fear, alright. But it won’t be fear of Chatard. It will be fear of Coach Radtke.

The same here. PTI was always my favorite, but even I got tired of it after a while.

Just to give one some idea how difficult it is to win an Indy CYO championship, I can recall a certain AAA Cadet St. Matthew team (very well coached btw….especially since I had nothing to do with it by that time) some years back that had what later turned out to be 2 future NFL lineman (8th graders) and a University of Louisville scholarship lineman (7th Grader)…..not to mention another lineman who ended up on the Top 50 Indiana HS players All Classes his Senior year. Literally a future D1 (plus) college line. By the time playoffs arrived, their two primary running backs were out. One (a later HS All-American in another sport) had broken his arm earlier in the season v. St. Simon and the other was concussed. Regardless, they still had a backup RB who later played for Ball State as a DB…a tough, athletic kid with speed. They lost to St. Michael in the semi-final in a 3-4 overtime game….and St. Michael later lost to St. Pius in the Championship. That’s how tough it is to claim an Indy CYO Championship. Guru, I’m truly sad to hear you are stepping away but have no doubt that you have had a life changing affect on these kids they will mark as definitive and guiding as they become great men, husbands and fathers. May God Bless you and yours, Sir.

Either way, this is the state championship.