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Try Brad's brass flamingo Plenty of tvs to put the game on

There are several large high schools in Indiana that have 2 "AD's" sometime one for boys sports and one for girls, sometimes they just separate the sports up based on expertise/interest/workload. Not unusual at all in 6A especially

Germans? Pearl Harbor? Forget it. He's on a roll.

Reminds me of the good 'ole days of the GID.

You are new here, aren’t you? 🤣 What’s the line from that commercial? Oh yeah That’s not how this works at all 🤣

*barf*

While some has been self inflicted, other societal issues are put on schools that they were never meant to handle are a HUGE problem. You also cannot ignore what politicians in the Statehouse are doing that negatively impact schools that serve predominantly poor communities.

They need to work harder and get better.

And don't forget the Music Department. They produced that famous rapper Vanilla Flav.

Sad is the PC world we live in, isn't it? Goshen H.S. (Go Redskins) got forced to guzzle the PC Kool-Aid a number of year ago, nice to know the Knox community is still rightfully resisting it.

Not enough sand in this state to fill the bags these guys are filling !

They do things the right way and are a true 3A peer....as it should be. They fight the same battles we fight. I respect that.

"It's 5:00 somewhere"

Coach, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you don’t know the history of Chatard in 4A….but it’s going to be Tolstoy in length…but hardly as literary…I’ll leave that to @Muda and his misspelled acronyms. For the record, anyone bothering to read this likely should grab a cup of coffee. For the record, nobody is any less happy about Chatard being in 3A than Chatard football fans….at least this one, anyway. Pretty sure I represent a majority, though. With that, 4A is not always better than 3A..but it is in most years. Regardless, either 3A or 4A is almost always better than 5A – I include in this the 70% of the time 5A is ACTUALLY WON BY A BUMPED UP 4A TEAM. If Chatard could somehow ultimately claw its way through 4A into 5A, I doubt it would ever leave 5A. With that, let’s start with a recent history primer of Chatard in 3A and 4A (4A boldfaced and underlined😞 2013: (Year 1 of the Success Factor with 4 Points required to stay in 4A) Chatard wins Sectional v. Roncalli 28-8. They lose Regional, in a game that was decided late, v. New Palestine. This year was the start of New Pal’s great success under Coach Ralph. Their Chatard win was the first statewide sign something special was cooking there. Chatard earns 1 point. 2014: Chatard rolls over and supines itself to Roncalli 31-6 in Sectional after beating them 20-7 in the regular season. No further comment. Chatard earns 0 points…back to 3A. 2015: Chatard wins 3A State 2016: Chatard loses to Danville in 3A Sectional (Coach Vince Lorenzano’s last year) 2017: Chatard loses to Danville in 3A Sectional (Coach Rob Doyle’s first year) 2018: Chatard loses 3A Semi-State to Evansville Memorial…admittedly losing ugly. 2019: Chatard wins 3A State (CalPreps had Chatard ranked #3 All Classes…New Pal was ranked #1 All Classes) 2020: Chatard wins 3A State (CalPreps had Chatard ranked #6 All Classes). For the record, they beat later 4A state champion Roncalli 28-7 that year (Roncalli’s sole loss). 2021: Chatard loses to Roncalli in 4A Sectional 35-21. Lest folks forget, this was the year Roncalli with their monster line (just coming off a State Championship) was talked about much like East Central today….until they lost in an upset to Mt Vernon (who easily won State). Chatard earns 0 points. 2022: Chatard is put back in 3A (don’t ask me why…I still don’t understand it). Chatard wins 3A State. This is the history. Chatard has only ever been in 4A for 3 years. They’ve only been knocked out of 4A once in 2014 where they needed 4 points to stay up. That said, in 2024, have no doubt the slack jaws at the IHSAA will put Brebeuf, Chatard, Roncalli, Cincy Elder, Cincy St.X and Cincy Moeller in the same Sectional….or dream about it, anyway. Regardless, Brebeuf, Chatard and Roncalli WILL be in the same Sectional….because…. In its absolute worst years, Chatard will almost always be a top 5-10 4A team (I believe they should be in the North...for the record). Frankly, Chatard doesn’t seem to experience the same high/low swings Roncalli does. Still, historically Chatard will almost always also split 50/50 with Roncalli…who has a bit of a tradition, as well (but tends to have bigger “lows” than Chatard does in off years). When Roncalli is “good”, they’re “State Champion good”. Regardless, I have been told until my ears bleed that the IHSAA DEEPLY evaluates these Sectional groupings considering a multitude of factors including historic conferences…..yada, yada, yada….BS, BS, BS….smoke blowing up my hindquarters. Which has always been used to explain just how Roncalli’s next door, talking over the fence neighbor New Palestine is never paired with Roncalli in Sectional…but 45 minute North Indianapolis cross-county Chatard is ALWAYS paired with Roncalli. That said, can’t the IHSAA figure out a way to simply put Chatard, New Pal and Roncalli in 3 different Sectionals? Just that little effort would likely keep a prolonged and forever peace in 3A. Tragically, the IHSAA has continued to give us year after year the “Sectional of Death” in 3A (copyright to @foxbat) or equivalent which, by any consideration, is gerrymandered as Hell but always has Chatard in the crosshairs (along with every Indiana HS Catholic north of the Mason Dixon line)….but ultimately screws over tons of great teams like TV, HH, WL, Guerin and too many teams to mention. I’m still p!ssed off as to how badly Tippecanoe Valley was screwed over between Sectional pairings and the damn ping pong balls. I have no doubt they will continue that proud tradition into 4A next year…wherever those Catholic Schools might be. If the IHSAA truly gave a sh!t about the principle behind the Success Factor shouldn’t it ALSO be a consideration in that DEEP evaluation of Sectional pairings…or do you just let another equivalent of the 3A TW AD (some of you get the “code”) make the pairings in 4A as well? Up to this point, the IHSAA Sectional pairings appear nothing more than self-interested groupings by those school administrators involved in the decision making process with no actual consideration of the overall picture….those non-decision makers get the “Sectional of Death”. I’m as angry as anybody about Chatard being in 3A (whether they win or lose this Friday…or possibly the following week). The Success Factor can actually work if the IHSAA actively considers the principle behind it as regards Sectional groupings. I say this as someone who was a very vocal sceptic…just ask Coach Gallogly. If they don’t, and just allow it to become the playground for self-interested 4A ADs…like those behind the "Sectional of Death" in 3A, then nothing will be resolved. My guess is that, ultimately, those involved in the decision process at the IHSAA will most likely place self-interest over principle come Sectional announcement time. Please, prove me wrong. You can now return to the original thread....

Ok, I was a freshman in 1981 and I went to the Snider/Carmel game. Think we had about 3 fan buses that went. It was cold and rainy, brutal weather, totally negated the speed advantage we had Dunbar team was fantastic, right at the top of all time best Panther teams

I hate to be that guy…but I don’t even live in Indiana and know you didn’t check the weather either lol. gotta love the blind confidence of repeating what others told you and the mentality of “you gotta play on grass and in mud to be a real football player”

Awesome. Need some additional rags for the garage. Send me your size…have a few T’s for you.

They have 12oz Grape Gatorade too.

That's pretty cool, but I'm too cheap to pay for a vanity plate. Also looks like that car might be nice enough to have comprehensive coverage. If I were going to ever spend money on a vanity plate, it would be one that I saw in a McDonald's on the way back from a baseball tourney that was "RSH YYZ."

Menards!

If your argument is "the school's haven't given us the opportunity" you lose the debate before it starts. CYO is just an organization....like any community. It's involved parents that make the difference and it takes years. You're crying "poor me" because whatever community you're from hasn't done the same. CYO doesn't provide anything except scheduling and organization. It's not a government problem at all. Yoi don't need government to have an involved community or youth sports program. Like I said...just a convenient excuse. What Chatard has was built over 50 years. It doesn't happen overnight and ultimately, you can be jealous and blame the government if you want to, but that's just a smoke screen. Chatard has done it right for a long time.

Nice plate Foxy... didnt know u were so vain!! LoL

In all fairness, I don't think that hit impacted the outcome of the game anymore than the no holding call the year before on Valpo's game winning 2pt conversion at semi-state. It appears that the ball sailed through the Valpo players hands slightly before the hit is made. He saw the Merrillville player coming and wasn't making that catch.

Shoot me your size so I can order you a B10 champs T-shirt next month.

Oh yes, the 2007 semistate, won by Lowell on a field goal with about 30 sec. left, 10-7. I was never so glad to see a game not go into overtime … One of my favorite games of all time.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSzG2aGkgcfTsaj3F43ZayN410HvYnV_Dl64LVgOG58aic_eiu8taErApPltau2WiR9V06dPJIV0d2a/pubhtml Approved broadcasters above. There won't be any free TV broadcasts from here on out that are live at least.

When talking about Luers they have 11 state championships and multiple runners up. So I wouldn't put this years team isn't in the top 20 teams.

Gonna hav to watch that whole movie again tonite.... timeless!!! 🤣

You really are obtuse. When you come to Chatard on Friday have your mommy bring your big wheel. There is a great place for you to ride it back behind the scoreboard. You should probably leave the football discussions to the adults.

Certainly, and all of those schools had their pro’s and con’s. My wife and her brother both went to North Central (30 years ago). When we moved to Indy we moved into that school district (and my dtr was attending a NC middle school). Then a student was stabbed by another student in the HS hallways. Time to look for a new school before my daughter got to that danger zone. What was left was P/P if we wanted to raise the odds of that not happening to her (at least in our minds). We wanted something smaller (out goes Cathedral), not as expensive (goodbye Park Tudor & Brebeuf) and closer to where we were living (out goes HC and Guerin). Oh yeah, and the Chatard football coach shares a backyard fence with my brother in law. Not all choices in life are as simple as “let’s buy a ring for my kid”. Sometimes circumstances lead you home. At the end of the day there are far more important things than kids getting rings for playing a game that they love.

If you are not following this guy on the Xitters, you should….he is a true American patriot

Interesting, I think the ability to be an adult is declining in our society, quickly.

You'll probably be in the same sectional with Frankfort. Yay, 96-0 baby! I am in my mid-50's. You should try having a bit of fun sometimes, Lysander. Catholicism or something seems to make you very uptight.

*Penix

I am not close to the program but @Lysander can't keep secrets and on rare occasions our brain waves sync up (when we actually use them) or at least reminisce about the days of CJB and Ly gets a sugar high. I digress in honor of Lysander's utter appreciation for how the IHSAA handles things with infinite wisdom, he will be suggesting to Coach Doyle to take all non starters and those not on the two-deep and write them on ping pong balls and select the 2 unlucky contestants. Unless of course one of those unlucky contestants mother is on the list to wash the uniforms from the previous game, then a 3rd ping pong ball will be drawn. Just had to go out and bring up "Coach Junction Boy" some of the newer posters can't handle learning about CJB. Careful with those Bit 'O Honey's we don't want too many dentist visits!

I just looked it up on the IHSAA site and it seems that IHSAAtv.org has cornered the market. The regionals is the last round other broadcasting stations (including the schools media depts.) could show the games. It says $12 for 1 game or all 12 for $20. Like I said before, it never hurts to ask the restaurant. I've had pretty good luck with asking (and I tip very well).

We are 3 1/2 weeks into this thing, and I have more questions than answers. Right off the top of my head: What was Conor Stalion’s actual job description at Michigan? To whom did he report? Where did the $$ come from to cover the cost of the “advance scouting?” The number I heard was tickets to 30 games, plus travel expenses. What happened to Stalion’s work product containing the information obtained through “advance scouting?” Has the allegation of a connection between Ryan Day and the private investigators who supplied the NCAA with evidence been conclusively debunked? If Ryan Day was not the instigator of the “investigation,” who was? Anyone have information on these issues?

Yes. That would be easy. I can just switch jobs, sell my house, sell my in-laws house, move them into a nice place in the country nearby my new job and my new house, uproot my kid from all of her friends, ask my wife to completely revamp her life and quietly settle into a peaceful life of yelling at cows to stay off of my lawn. So easy a caveman (like me) could do it. Conversely, you can enroll your kid in a P/P in the city and drive them to school daily, pay the added costs to your wallet (and lifestyle) and join the privileged elites all for the honor of telling some dudes on a high school message board in thirty years that you once helped your kid win a state title in the sport of your choosing. Legal Disclaimer: This message is in no way meant to be misconstrued as a recruiting effort.

Another reason why there shouldn't be an automatic Class bump for P/Ps. Outside of football......Chatard.....well....I think you fairly well know.

Please don't. What you are currently using is perfectly fine.

Should be the study case of what to fix with the success factor.

That was probably the last show I watched. I stopped years ago. The only way I watch any talking head show at this point is if I catch the tail end of a Fox or CBS pre-game show just before the Big Noon Kickoff on Fox or prior to the start of an NFL game. The absolute worst for me right now is Mike Greenburg. Just awful. I didn't think it was possible, but I found someone to rate below Skip Bayless.

I am a huge fan of the “We are the poor oppressed” argument here and the P/P’s are the oppressors. It is the cry of every group that currently loves to hang and wave their flag of choice. The unfortunate part is that it ends up sounding like whining. I miss the old days (like pre-pandemic) when it was “Underdogs vs the Favorites”. When the underdogs would swear to fight like hell in the face of odds seemingly stacked against them. Their victories were the victories of underdogs everywhere. We celebrated the victorious underdog. Today that underdog goes by the name of the oppressed. They whine and cry about things being “fair”, need safe spaces and call everyone who has a differing opinion a name or pejorative of some sort. They love to “pwn” people and, in the end, nobody cares when they actually win because society is tired of dealing with the insufferable twerps. Now leave me alone cuz I need to find my VHS of Villanova Basketball beating Georgetown in the NCAA finals.

I believe I am going on close to 5 years since I turned on any sort of ESPN/FOX/NFL network talk show, pundit show, insert loud mouths in front TV type show. Its all garbage and meant to illicit responses and clicks, ESPN is on my TV for live sports that is it.

Just to give one some idea how difficult it is to win an Indy CYO championship, I can recall a certain AAA Cadet St. Matthew team (very well coached btw….especially since I had nothing to do with it by that time) some years back that had what later turned out to be 2 future NFL lineman (8th graders) and a University of Louisville scholarship lineman (7th Grader)…..not to mention another lineman who ended up on the Top 50 Indiana HS players All Classes his Senior year. Literally a future D1 (plus) college line. By the time playoffs arrived, their two primary running backs were out. One (a later HS All-American in another sport) had broken his arm earlier in the season v. St. Simon and the other was concussed. Regardless, they still had a backup RB who later played for Ball State as a DB…a tough, athletic kid with speed. They lost to St. Michael in the semi-final in a 3-4 overtime game….and St. Michael later lost to St. Pius in the Championship. That’s how tough it is to claim an Indy CYO Championship. Guru, I’m truly sad to hear you are stepping away but have no doubt that you have had a life changing affect on these kids they will mark as definitive and guiding as they become great men, husbands and fathers. May God Bless you and yours, Sir.

LCC wins this one. Outside of Snider in Fort Wayne, wasn't impressed with the SAC at all this year, and Luers didn't even have to play them this year. If you can defend a fade and keep contain on a HB toss, you can beat Luers. LCC will be able to do that. In my opinion, the two best teams in the North met each other back in week 2 of Sectionals.

Exactly... The Red Knights have double everything the Blue Knights have... AND r SAC Co-Champs!! Don't care what stats r put up... this is a huge hill for the Blue Knights to climb..... keeping it close b awesome...

Ehh..in hs 37 yds in a regional game could be seen as "big/good"..the other with a minute left could definitely be seen as "good"..some may have shanked a chip shot when attempting the presumably game winner..I agree special teams play is major in november...Westfield kicking bombs in the rain years ago still brings agony...