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Maybe the haste of wanting to the be deliverer of the Bad News got the best of the Stat Guy??

I felt like I had seen this topic before...

Sorry they're missing out. No need to make the rest of the State suffer because of a few.

You bone head..lol...I believe I will be there if GS is or not!

A considerable amount of forum members are involved in education and have had their jobs shut down during the past 5 months. Their lives have had a major impact. Our plant has worked 6 days per week since the coronavirus outbreak and we are scheduled 7 days per week through the end of August. Other than not being able to go to a bar, my life has not changed at all since March. I am in management, therefore I must comply with the mandatory mask policy. I'm about the only person in my department who consistently wears a mask. I also comply with the Indianapolis public mask policy out of respect for others.

And another downward spiral is going full force. Come on guys.

How can you be on this site and not know about a multiple state championship county?

So, instead of double checking for yourself, you took information that you received from a 3rd party source and took that information IMMEDIATELY, to post onto this forum? Got it.

I would suspect: Order of importance 1. PARENTS OF PLAYERS 2. STUDENT SECTIONS 3. GENERAL PUBLIC I would imagine that our spouses would be cut 1st, my Mrs. will be thrilled, my daughter will be bummed. Just speculation

The virus is real whether you believe or not accept it or not. End of that topic The concept of the masks is to prevent transmission - NOT STOP IT It is in particles that come out of your mouth - and right now in Indiana over 40% of the cases are in people 29 and under So it shows it is there You want football like I do - god for sake take the politics out of the discussion and follow the suggestions - It is not fail safe but remember neither is the flu shot since it is based on the previous year's strain. But if the season gets interrupted or stopped and if you have not done your part - do not blame anyone but look at yourself It spikes after July 4 and Labor Day - the final weekend of summer is coming

And there it is! IB!?!? 😎

Man, Nick Hart doesn’t mess around. I love that about him. Win or lose, competition like that will do wonders for the Titans in the tournament.

This forum wasn't made for speculating, you mistook a county for a state...Thats not misreading, that is being ignorant...or simply not doing diligence to confirm a story. Don't post a believed fact without a source. TA coached my family growing up. I played under him for 3 seasons. He would be disheartened by all these threads being shut down and argument over whether we are having a season and letting this turn into a political mess. He would have rooted for a season to happen if it was safe to do so and if people followed proper guidance to do so. Share an opinion or two, even open a topic to discuss one, but don't simply banter across multiple threads on the High School Board to push your agenda/beliefs or to get off on doing so. Move to the OOB (or whatever it is called). This was created to promote and discuss IN high school football - Keep it at that. I coach and am blessed to do so, here's hoping for a season...I'll do my part with the mask mandate and social distancing. I'd simply encourage all to do the same. And the same goes for the other side also spitting ignorance. Mask up - only possible solution to slow this that is being suggested by experts. Social Distance and be patient with reduced crowds. We're all in this together. DO YOUR PART!!!

Kids will do that. Challenge them to do something different. Pass out seat cushions for kids to put between each other. Make every night costume night Have them dress up is astronaut space suits...or as AquaMan......or in full body hot dog outfits...so they're covered up and cant spread the virus... Schedule the older boys and girls to have a 'Divorce Night' ...... where you sit as far away from your girlfriend as possible.... (too much?)

He said that he was "open" to that. So I assume that it will be allowed this year for officials. Didn't go beyond 4 games though

I disagree. The season would start after signing day. Any D1 kid would likely be told to skip the season, or work to get those kids on campus early. I am sure a few of those kids were actually planning to be on campus for the 2nd semester. There may even be FCS schools, and D2 schools doing the same; especially with many of them moving their seasons to the Spring already.

Full pads and contact entire practice today for us! Are you ready for some football?!?!?!?!

Not surprised. Expected them, lake county, and marion county to do this. You can not shut out rest of state because of 3 counties. Hopefully they look at the before 28th. Would make more sense to do every 2 weeks.

You all need a Snickers bar...

Isn’t that Amish country they even play football?

I hear you on the law enforcement. We have several deputies at our games. I don't know if they will enforce or if staff will enforce it but my gut feeling is there will be some pretty strict control on this. You can follow the rules or go home....being a spectator this year will be a privilege. Inevitably some red neck is going to say it's his constitutional right to breathe on everyone.....I don't think there will be any tolerance for "that guy" this season.

I was wondering about our area like that just today. My guess is ...and it is just a guess....you will be told to mask up and social distance in those areas or law enforcement will move you or ask you to leave.

You haven't had to deal with it when my email buzzer goes off and I have coaches/admins from across the state over the 10 years of helping running the site and them asking, WHY DID THIS GET POSTED in YOUR SITE?? Because that has absolutely happened to me on multiple occasions.

My record is SPOTLESS when it comes to reporting serious information such as: Schools cancelling, games cancelling, coaching hires, coaching resignations et. al. So please go find where I have made a false claim on something as important as this topic. That is why our long standing standard set by Coach Tim Adams, was to verify and not engage in rumor. You are defending yourself countless times on here lately about not 'rooting' for schools to shut down this fall, and advocating for Spring, however, when you make such a hasty post and to be so completely wrong, that does not help you defend against the other users who have labeled you as the poster getting joy out of schools not playing. Just some advice, you can take it or leave it. just a 3rd party eyes with ZERO agenda on here.

looks like my question was already answered. I withdraw the question.

Speaking of spokesmen, don't you have some hydroxychloroquine to peddle?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/ron-swanson-is-smiling/ As I have said in other threads it is smart to buy gold. And seeds. Plant the seeds and keep the gold in a safe place where you can quickly retrieve it.

Yep, Delaware, the state, announced yesterday that that they were moving to around mid-February start. https://www.maxpreps.com/news/Ewln-Uk6sEyWWqi5jUyXrA/hawaii-and-delaware-are-11th-and-12th-states-to-move-football-to-2021.htm

This isn't a new article, but https://twitter.com/BradMyersTNJ/status/1291415307047690240?s=20

Per The Star Press website (Muncie Paper) no headline or news article has been published in the last 24 hours stating this or alluding to a discussion on it. Delaware County girls golf teams had a match yesterday, though. Possible your mistaken for the state of Delaware that pushed fall sports to the spring, which hit the news cycle about two hours ago?

"Wildfire". You. Are. Amazing. By the way, everyone's phone now has Covid 19 tracing on it. Don't believe me? Check. I'll wait.

Sad....Imagine my dismay thinking this would be a Lagavulin thread!

We almost certainly cant have contact sports indoors until we have an answer for the virus.............Coaches, refs, fans are all at risk... Its just this year's reality.......We havent had open schools in 5 months....we dont know what's about to hit us/

Will you sit next to me at the state championship games Thanksgiving weekend? I’ll wear a mask.

Pretty sure we live in the same world, other wise you wouldn't be able to speak to me. Sorry about being realistic, there are a lot that feel the same way I do.

Jesus that's one of his relatives (in coat)... He's not being dragged. I really can't wait till he kicks trump's ass in the debates and in the election.

AND ITS THE SAME GROUP EVERYTIME. Color me SHOCKED Maybe its time to see if @DK_Barons can figure out ways to restrict users to only certain portions of the website??? Hmmmmmmm This concept is NOT that hard to follow folks. We are getting dangerously close on putting about 5 accounts on MOD PREVIEW only...... which is sad to say about adults

Doing all of those guidelines, still isn't enough for some people. Look to what just happened with the Indy 500 for example. They had ALL of those plans in place and had agreements with the state and still got the rug pulled out from under them. Because IU Health decided to throw some weight around at the very last minute. There are a lot of people, suddenly with a lot of power, who don't really like sports. Don't like the attention they get. Don't like the money they generate. And using this virus is a way to bring sports down. Which we are seeing happen right in front of our eyes everyday.

Time to take a victory lap.…...congrats.

Coming down with what? 5 of the 13 Cardinals that tested positive have no symptoms. The other 8 have "very minor symptoms" (in other words...they have a cold). The other 28 teams have had zero issues.

Just to show how completely idiotic this decision is... Adams County has a grand total of 81 cases. Total. In 5 months. Their current % positive rate is 2.9%. They have had a grand total of 2 deaths. One in early April and one in mid July. Their in-over-his-head health officer for the county, Micheal Ainsworth had this gem of a comment in the story... The only "light at the end of the tunnel" is a train of stupidity rolling over the top of us that is ruining society.

Gibson Southern has scheduled Jackson High School from Missouri on week 2 to replace Owensboro. They were 5A Runner Up in Missouri

Well there you go. Have Warren travel to Gibson Southern. It’ll be a culture shock for all involved. Problem solved.

I'm telling ya...the show will go on even with a chunk of schools not participating. Which is better than a condensed spring schedule any day of the week. Because one thing is certain, having to manage "cases" and preventative measures won't be gone in the spring either. Vaccine or not.

Think the most surprising thing is stat boy didn't get text from a friend to break this story.

Autopsy shows the young lady that passed away in April that her understandably distraught husband blamed on lack of PPE that caused her to catch COVID, didn't have COVID........ https://cbs12.com/news/local/autopsy-shows-wellington-nurse-died-of-kidney-infection-not-covid-19?fbclid=IwAR0WZAIWAV-GOmN4OKkmBW7xSQXJYMaT8ksv-Uy_EP5DIVezwo03Kr268mY WELLINGTON, Fla. (CBS12) — A report from the Palm Beach County Medical examiner obtained by CBS12 News shows that a young Wellington nurse believed to have passed from COVID-19, was never infected with the virus at all. The report shows that 33-year-old Danielle DiCenso died from "complications of acute pyelonephritis," otherwise known as a kidney infection. DiCenso was quarantining at home when she died suddenly in her sleep. Before she passed away, DiCenso was tested for COVID-19 after she was reportedly exposed to the virus at work. Her husband, David DiCenso told CBS12 News that the young nurse was not given proper PPE at her job at Palmetto General in Hialeah. He said she began experiencing coronavirus symptoms in late March, and her test came back inconclusive. DiCenso was still waiting on official results from the coroner when he spoke to CBS12 News back in April, but he said he had no doubt that she was exposed to COVID-19 at work. He was surprised when his wife, who he believed had no preexisting conditions, died suddenly. "It looked like the oxygen was just taken out of her," he told CBS12 News in a prior interview. CBS12 News reached out to DiCenso for comment but has not heard back. Yeah, SF will assume you probably won't hear back either, nor will the hospital reimburse the Government for the additional funds it got for the COVID death.......

Delware county (Muncie) suspended fall sports to spring.

Nice Video Streaming Business You Got There… https://www.cato.org/blog/nice-video-streaming-business-you-got-there Let’s not mince words: This is the Mafia’s business model. “We’ll threaten your competitor, forcing them to sell the business cheap, but we expect our cut in return.” The national security powers of the executive branch are now officially muscle for hire. But how—one might reasonably wonder—could an app best known for videos of teenagers dancing and lip-syncing pose a national security threat in the first place? A threat so dire it justifies the use of emergency powers to close down an expressive platform used by millions of Americans every day? Can a president even do that? Let’s start with the supposed threat. Like many other apps, TikTok collects quite a bit of data about its users, some obvious (such as personal profile information), some less so (device configuration; location on videos that have been geotagged). That data is stored on U.S. servers (with backups in Singapore), and the American CEO of the company’s U.S. subsidiary says they would not share it with the Chinese government. But in theory, under China’s security laws, the parent company ByteDance could be ordered to produce that data to the Chinese government for some presumptively nefarious purpose. As other analysts have noted, there is something very odd about singling out TikTok as a focus of panic on this front, as the type of personal data collected would be of relatively low intelligence value to China. (Contrast the recent compelled divestiture of the gay dating app Grindr by Chinese firm Kunlun, where there was at least an intelligible argument that the specific nature of the data collected made it uniquely useful for blackmail.) One can imagine how such information might be abused by a government interested in monitoring its own citizens, but it’s harder to articulate any coherent reason midwestern teens posting cat videos should be fearful that Maoists are scrutinizing their system settings or geotags. As long as we’re spinning hypotheticals, however, TikTok is hardly the only potential corporate source of data about Americans. The Chinese firm Lenovo is one of the largest hardware manufacturers in the world, and owns the U.S. smartphone maker Motorola Mobility. The Qingdao-based Haier Group owns GE Appliances, which sells Internet-enabled devices to the American market. Chinese gaming giant Tencent owns the company that makes League of Legends—one of the most popular games in the world for over a decade—and holds a large stake in Epic Games, developers of the more recent megahit Fortnite. It’s not clear why the data collected by TikTok, in particular, poses a greater security threat than the data collected by innumerable other Chinese-owned companies—or, for that matter, by American companies that make use of overseas call or data centers. One might reasonably respond that we should be concerned about any foreign exfiltration of data on U.S. persons. But if so, the rational response is a generally applicable data framework guided by neutral rules and principles, not the arbitrary deployment of the most extreme possible policy response against individual companies that commit the sin of becoming too popular or prominent. The disproportionate panic over TikTok seems to be substantially driven by the fact that it’s the hot new thing—heavily used by teens, which helps trigger our protective instincts—and therefore attracts media attention more readily than denunciations of foreign-owned appliance makers. And the message to foreign companies considering investing or doing business in the United States is: You may be expropriated virtually overnight, subject to the whims of the president, without having done anything wrong or violated any preexisting rule. It’s also worth noting that the argument being deployed against TikTok could just as easily be turned on the United States. Under section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the U.S. government may demand warrantless access to foreign users’ information—including private communications—from American tech companies. In 2019, a stunning 204,968 foreign persons were targeted for “collection” under that single authority. Indeed, a data sharing agreement between the United States and the European Union was recently invalidated—and its future remains uncertain—in part because the E.U. high court deemed such authority inconsistent with the privacy rights of Europeans. The logic behind a ban on TikTok works equally well as a rationale for the rest of the world to ban Google and Facebook. None of this is to deny that TikTok might present a legitimate security risk for some users. Notwithstanding the company’s assurances, democracy activists with plans to travel to China would probably be wise to avoid installing it, and government agencies that handle sensitive information would be amply justified in barring it (and many other apps) from employees’ phones. But government agencies already have and enforce their own elaborate device security policies. (Recent legislative proposals to specifically bar TikTok from government devices suggest some lawmakers mistakenly believe these agencies require granular security guidance from Congress, at the level of individual apps—an unsettling prospect, but fortunately untrue.) The government need not impose on every citizen the security measures appropriate for NSA analysts, or threaten to kick millions of Americans off an expressive platform in order to protect Naval Intelligence officers. Others worry that TikTok could serve as a vehicle for Chinese propaganda and misinformation. But as the 2016 election should have made clear, foreign governments hardly need to operate their own media platforms to engage in such information operations, and there is no good reason to think that TikTok videos pose a bigger threat on this score—whether the platform is owned by Microsoft or ByteDance—than Facebook posts. So can the president “ban” TikTok? There are a number of legal mechanisms available to the executive that might have that practical effect, though given the thin and almost entirely hypothetical nature of the “national security threat” posed, it would be a gross abuse of power to do so. The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States can retroactively demand that ByteDance divest itself of TikTok. Trump could invoke the International Emergency Powers Act, declaring that the popularity of the video sharing app constitutes a “national emergency” and imposing sanctions on its parent company, which would force the Apple and Android app stores to delist the app. That would not remove it from the millions of phones on which it is already installed, however, and at least in theory the platform could continue to operate on overseas servers, both for existing users and those who access it via the Web rather than an app—a perverse result if the aim is to prevent Americans’ data from being exfiltrated to China. To truly prevent Americans from accessing a foreign platform would, ironically, require something akin to China’s “Great Firewall,” long considered an emblem of the country’s authoritarian repression of speech. However effective such a ban might ultimately be in practice, the prospect ought to be appalling from a First Amendment perspective. Again, this is a platform for expression used daily by millions of Americans. While—as with most social media—much of the content is frivolous, it has also become a vehicle for political speech and organizing. Perhaps not coincidentally, online teens, organizing primarily via TikTok, successfully pranked a recent Trump rally in Tulsa, submitting bogus registrations and inflating attendance expectations, which likely contributed to the spectacle of conspicuously empty seats that is said to have infuriated the president. It is hard not to wonder whether now that the president has announced that, absent a deal with Microsoft, he intends to attempt to shutter the entire platform for “security reasons” less than two months before a presidential election—a drastic response that would radically disrupt the legitimate speech of citizens. There may be valid data privacy concerns about foreign-owned online services that could be addressed by an appropriately general legislative framework. But killing a massively popular venue for speech by executive fiat would be, as Trump is fond of saying, a “cure worse than the problem.” In short, Trump’s threat is an egregious affront to American values on multiple levels. If Microsoft is unable to reach a deal with TikTok, the president has pledged to unilaterally use the powers of his office to destroy a vast platform for speech and expression whose users recently embarrassed him, invoking a vague and speculative “national security threat” ostensibly posed by a company that has not, as yet, been accused of any actual wrongdoing. If a deal is reached, Trump has announced that the coercion of foreign companies—coercion supposedly required by national security interests—is in fact a service to American corporations, for which the beneficiaries should pay a fee. It’s the sort of thing one might expect to see in China—not the United States. Agreed. Leave TikTok alone.