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Heard West Lafayette was caught eating burgers on Friday during Lent and excommunicated from the Catholic Invitational Sectional.

Fully aware my opinion may not be popular with some.... RE: Teacher pay. Some of this is relative to the corporation contract structure. Speaking personally, we have a rather favorable contract structure for experienced teachers with a Master's. I do not feel "underpaid", considering I'm contracted for a little over 180 days a year. If you prorated my salary out over an entire year, my teacher salary is very competitive with most anything else I'd be interested or qualified to do. RE: Coaching pay. For the vast majority of coaches, the off-season commitment has increased exponentially over the years ....your coaching stipend has not. And because these commitments, by their nature, generally occur outside of the school day...it has a much more significant impact on your own family obligations. And its generally not compensated for. Now none of us got into coaching high school football to get rich. But I suspect the turnover your seeing is a direct reflection of the expectation that football coaches give so much more of their offseason time, while still expecting them to have full time teaching workloads and not increasing their extracurricular stipend to an amount commensurate with that time commitment. Off-season weights, off-season football workouts (now ok to do), a full summer weight and football practice schedule, multiple summer scrimmages, throw in a team camp, clinics, etc, etc ....My wife would trade my being MIA during two weeks of 2 a Days, for June/July rules going back to their previous versions. When you have kids with their own Winter, Spring, Summer stuff and a wife that works her own job, the off-season time starts to require sacrifices of more than just Dad...most of that load goes on Mom. We all know this, we signed up for it, we love the game; but a lot of coaches are finding that when it comes to raising a family in the 2020's...the balance just isn't there anymore. With some exceptions, your "mega-schools" will be able to manage this better due to a wide variety of resources, and your tiny schools, won't have as much commitment of time due to the number of athletes that are shared with other sports. Its the schools somewhere in the middle that are really putting the squeeze on their coaches. Of course there are exceptions to this. Notice I don't have any answers... People knock on some schools that created internal positions for head coaches, coordinators, etc. But the reality is, those schools understand what is being asked in terms of the time commitment to have a successful program. If your community has a football program with 75-100+ kids, with an expectation that it will be successful. You want good coaches with staff continuity, that's only gonna happen if the coaches feel the juice is worth the squeeze every year. In some places it isn't. (I'm sure there are a variety of typos, etc above....I don't have the energy to proof read since this was more or less a rant of 🤮mental word vomit)

That would've been me. Two Indy-area schools had to go north, and that was the most natural thing to do was send HSE/Fishers up I-69 to Homestead/Carroll.

Mt. Vernon is top notch, just ask them. Hey, for the record I didn't even look at Memorials sectional :).

How? Cakewalk sectional then a CG with massive talent losses in regionals is all they could ever ask for. Dodging Cathedral/Ben Davis until Semi State

I've posed this question elsewhere, but is Pioneer really even in 1A? They won a regional in 2020 which would keep us in 2A unless I missed a different rule posting than what was originally released. Between 1A and 2A just line us up and we'll play whoever. Our biggest issue at the 2A level is simply depth. Big difference going against teams with 40-60 kids on the roster compared to us only having 20-30 kids JV-Varsity.

https://www.ihsaa.org/Portals/0/ihsaa/documents/quick resources/Enrollments & Classifications/2022-23 2023-24/2022-23 2023-24 Football Assignments.pdf

Having made that drive to East Central several times, it is terrible. There really is no straight line to get there from here, and it doesn’t matter which way you go. But their facilities are nice.

Three of the four 2A teams in the Hoosier Conference showed 40+ players in 2021 and Lewis Cass, the 4th, showed 38.

I wouldn’t go that far and I definitely don’t want to act like GS is unbeatable or that these other schools are just the worst. but it’s definitely not the same as being in 32 with Memorial, Heritage Hills, and Southridge

Sagarin won't ever be the same, but not having to make that drive to Northview is nice. Sectional 24 should forever be known as the Habsburg Sectional.

Was he wearing his Timberlands when he went to get his physical? Might explain Curry's issue.

People move into areas all the time. Not sure why that is seen as a negative. Russ' Dad Craig, former NFL player himself, moved into the area when he took over as offensive coordinator at Franklin College. I am sure he received some direction as to the best place for Russ and his sister, who is currently a standout in track at the University of Louisville for education and athletics. Whether Russ grew up in CG or not, he sure understood the offense, (and D when he played that side of the ball) Not living in an area one's entire life doesn't diminish anything and Russ will hardly be the last to move into a given area later in his high school career.

Class 6A (32 Schools) 1. (4): Crown Point, Lake Central, Lafayette Jefferson, Portage 2. (4): Carroll (Fort Wayne), Elkhart, Penn, Warsaw 3. (4): Fishers, Fort Wayne Northrop, Hamilton Southeastern, Homestead 4. (4): Carmel, Noblesville, Westfield, Zionsville 5. (4): Avon, Ben Davis, Brownsburg, Pike 6. (4): Indianapolis Cathedral, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, North Central (Indianapolis) 7. (4): Indianapolis Arsenal Technical, Perry Meridian, Southport, Warren Central 8. (4): Center Grove, Columbus North, Franklin Central, Jeffersonville Class 5A (32 Schools) 9. (4): Hammond Central, Hammond Morton, Merrillville, Munster 10. (4): Chesterton, LaPorte, Michigan City, Valparaiso 11. (4): Concord, Goshen, Mishawaka, South Bend Adams 12. (4): Anderson, Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger, Fort Wayne North Side, Fort Wayne Snider 13. (4): Decatur Central, Harrison (West Lafayette), McCutcheon, Plainfield 14. (4): Franklin Community, Terre Haute North Vigo, Terre Haute South Vigo, Whiteland Community 15. (4): Bloomington North, Bloomington South, Columbus East, Seymour 16. (4): Castle, Evansville North, Floyd Central, New Albany Class 4A (63 Schools) 17. (8): Culver Academies, East Chicago Central, Gary West Side, Highland, Hobart, Kankakee Valley, Lowell, New Prairie 18. (8): Logansport, Northridge, NorthWood, Plymouth, South Bend Riley, South Bend St. Joseph, South Bend Washington, Wawasee 19. (8): Angola, Columbia City, DeKalb, East Noble, Fort Wayne South Side, Fort Wayne Wayne, Leo, New Haven 20. (8): Frankfort, Huntington North, Jay County, Kokomo, Marion, Muncie Central, Mississinewa, Western 21. (8): Brebeuf Jesuit, Indianapolis Crispus Attucks, Indianapolis George Washington, Indianapolis Shortridge, Lebanon, Mooresville, Northview, Roncalli 22. (8): Beech Grove, Connersville, Greenfield-Central, Pendleton Heights, Mt. Vernon (Fortville), New Castle, New Palestine, Richmond 23. (8): Bedford North Lawrence, East Central, Edgewood, Greenwood, Jennings County, Martinsville, Shelbyville, Silver Creek 24. (7): Boonville, Evansville Bosse, Evansville Central, Evansville F.J. Reitz, Evansville Harrison, Evansville Memorial, Jasper Class 3A (64 Schools) 25. (8): Boone Grove, Calumet, Griffith, Hanover Central, Rensselaer Central, River Forest, Twin Lakes, West Lafayette 26. (8): Fairfield, Glenn, Jimtown, Knox, Lakeland, Mishawaka Marian, South Bend Clay, West Noble 27. (8): Bellmont, Delta, Fort Wayne Concordia Lutheran, Garrett, Heritage, Norwell, Woodlan, Yorktown 28. (8): Guerin Catholic, Hamilton Heights, Indianapolis Bishop Chatard, Maconaquah, Northwestern, Oak Hill, Peru, Tippecanoe Valley 29. (7): Crawfordsville, Danville Community, Monrovia, North Montgomery, Purdue Polytechnic (2023), Speedway, TriWest Hendricks, Western Boone 30. (8): Gibson Southern, Mt. Vernon, Owen Valley, Pike Central, Princeton Community, Vincennes Lincoln, Washington, West Vigo 31. (8): Batesville, Centerville, Franklin County, Greensburg, Indian Creek, Lawrenceburg, Rushville, South Dearborn 32. (8): Charlestown, Corydon Central, Heritage Hills, Madison Consolidated, North Harrison, Salem, Scottsburg, Southridge Class 2A (63 Schools) 33. (7): Andrean, Bremen, Hammond Bishop Noll, Lake Station Edison, LaVille, Wheeler, Whiting 34. (8): Benton Central, Delphi, Lafayette Central Catholic, Lewis Cass, Pioneer, Rochester, Seeger, Winamac 35. (8): Central Noble, Churubusco, Eastside, Fort Wayne Bishop Luers, Manchester, Prairie Heights, Wabash, Whitko 36. (8): Alexandria, Blackford, Bluffton, Eastbrook, Eastern (Greentown), Elwood, Frankton, Tipton 37. (8): Cascade, Greencastle, Linton-Stockton, North Knox, North Putnam, South Vermillion, Southmont, Sullivan 38. (8): Eastern Hancock, Heritage Christian, Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter, Lapel, Northeastern, Shenandoah, Union County, Winchester 39. (8): Brown County, Brownstown Central, Christel House, Clarksville, Eastern (Pekin), Indianapolis Scecina Memorial, Switzerland County, Triton Central 40. (8): Crawford County, Evansville Mater Dei, Forest Park, Mitchell, North Posey, Paoli, Perry Central, Tell City Class 1A (63 Schools) 41. (7): Bowman Academy, Culver Community, North Judson-San Pierre, North Newton, South Central (Union Mills), South Newton, Triton 42. (8): Attica, Clinton Central, Clinton Prairie, Covington, Fountain Central, North Vermillion, Park Tudor, Traders Point Christian 43. (8): Carroll (Flora), Caston, Frontier, North White, Taylor, Tri-Central, Tri-County, West Central 44. (8): Adams Central, Fremont, Madison-Grant, North Miami, Northfield, South Adams, Southern Wells, Southwood 45. (8): Anderson Preparatory, Hagerstown, Indiana School for the Deaf, Monroe Central, Sheridan, Tindley, Union City, Wes-Del 46. (8): Cambridge City Lincoln, Edinburgh, Knightstown, Milan, North Decatur, Oldenburg Academy, South Decatur, Tri 47. (8): Cloverdale, Covenant Christian (Indianapolis), Dugger Union (2023), Indianapolis Lutheran, North Central (Farmersburg), Parke Heritage, Riverton Parke, South Putnam 48. (8): Eastern Greene, North Daviess, Providence, Rock Creek Academy, South Spencer, Springs Valley, Tecumseh, West Washington

Initial thoughts: Lafayette schools have to be happy. Jeff avoids any Indy schools until Semi State. Harrison doesn’t have it easy with Decatur Central and Plainfield but they’ll take that over Zionsville any day.

If this does come to pass, the ensuing sh*tstorm will be of truly epic proportions. I am very interested to watch the various states try to put the genie back in the bottle. And in situations like this, keep in mind the most important law of all: The Law of Unintended Consequences.

You hit the nail on the head, everybody’s all in until it gets to actually doing the work.

The problem will only worsen. When I first began I knew, accepted, and (potentially wrongly) assumed teaching was a low pay/high status job. In my opinion, it has moved to a low pay/low status job. I'm okay with one, but not both. Why teach when you can make transition into another career with immediate hefty raises? Seems like we're on a sinking ship.

And Temptation DEFENDING a guy wearing scarlet and grey!!!

He's got a good gig at Ohio State, but he's expendable. Brian Hartline is the most immeasurable piece to their coaching staff. Not sure the last recruiting battle he lost. @temptationcan vouch for the evil empire.

Temptation and HHF/DT get into a spat.

I think your spot on with this. Who the Administrators are has also changed over time. When I started teaching, Principals and Athletic Directors were often veteran teacher coaches that chose to go the Admin route for the last 5-10 years of their career in order to boost their salary #s for retirement. More recently I've worked for administrators that have never coached, and many taught less then 5 years before they came to the conclusions you mentioned above. So what does that mean?...........It means that often the people calling the shots in our schools have less experience and a narrower view than most of the people that they govern. This will only get worse as teacher pay scales have now changed to stop giving credit for Master's degrees and years of experience. That will either push more very young teachers into Administration before they are ready to increase their salary AND/OR create a shortage of teachers with a Master's in Administration. This creates a real talent gap for admin jobs. 15 years ago a lot of veteran teachers had a masters in ed leadership that they obtained in order to move up the pay scale, even if at the time they obtained it they never thought they would use.........and as a result you saw 50+ applicants for principal jobs.....fast forward to 2022 where there is no incentive for teachers to obtain their masters combined with nasty parents and the general attack on public education that you see in many places and forms around our country and those jobs are now getting 5-15 applicants. So now the people that are doing the hiring in schools often lack the experience to See the big picture of coaching hires being good for kids and school culture See beyond the interview to what the individual can actually bring to the position Not be intimidated by someone recommending a candidate to them (because they see taking input as a sign of weakness when it should be viewed as a strength) This truly is a multi-tiered problem.

Easily. I have a number of in-laws that were born, raised, and still live there. Visited it often as youth, and still go there from time to time. As the automotive industry waxes and wanes so does the city. And the jobs that industry provides Kokomo are nothing what they were 30-40 years ago.

WKU is in Conference USA, not the MAC.

What happened with Pioneer? I would bet the farm that when the reclassifications came out that Pioneer was listed as a 2A staying up because of SF. It is even listed that way in the maps created in the original post for this topic. What happened?

Go Wildkats. Another deep 4A tourney run or a state championship could be a welcome shot in the arm for for the citizens of Kokomo, a city that is rapidly becoming a drug-infested hellhole.

I just leaned to read and saw the younger brother kicks at Missouri. So i wasn’t crazy just need to work on my reading stamina haha

Was there another really good Warsaw kicker a couple of years ago too or is this the same kid? Thought he went to Missouri maybe?

Choose a lane.

IU was on a roll heading into last season....and then ended up playing what was the hardest schedule in the country. Who knew when Indiana scheduled Cincinnati 6-7 years ago they'd be a playoff team? And they had massive injuries all over the field. They played 4 QB's last year and started a walk-on against Purdue. Their 2nd and 3rd leading ball carriers were both walk-ons. They had several key injuries to their secondary last year which coming into the year was the strongest unit on the team by far. It is what it is and water under the bridge at this point. IU still netted it's best recruiting class of all-time despite going 2-10 and added much more in the portal than what they lost. The only significant loss was Reese Taylor, a 5th year corner who was a spot starter last year only due to injury. IU is losing coaches to better programs which is a sign of a progressing team. Both of IU's coordinators in 2020 are now head coaches at the FBS level and Deland McCullough left to coach at Notre Dame. Can you really blame any of those departures?

If Pioneer doesn't/didn't want to go back down to 1A, couldn't they have requested to stay in 2A? I agree with what you wrote. If I were them, I'd look forward to the challenge of winning it all in 2A. But some believe the only thing that matters is winning the ring and would rather take a 80% chance of winning something less than a 20% chance at winning something more. I admire the way Pioneer handled their years in 2A as they competed and I didn't read much whining about it on here like you do from another public school that has recently had to play up a class.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10774981/Fauci-cozies-CNN-friend-Don-Lemon-crowded-WHCWs-pre-party.html Can we all just admit what a fraud this Anthony "Dog Torturer" Fauci guy is......

Administrators ego's are effecting this as well . It used to be when a teacher came in for an interview one of the questions asked was what sport could you coach ? Now I told a fellow young coach/teacher , don't even mention coaching unless they bring it up and most won't anymore . Head coaches need guys in the building and principals refuse to help, principals want to find a teacher on there own. I've seen numerous times were guys coach at one schools and teach at another and get constantly passed over for multiple positions in the district , good teachers already a little extra invested in that districts students can't get a sniff because there name was brought to an admin . its funny the misconception around many Football coaches . I've always said could you imagine the way the administration and the school cooperation as a whole would look at a teacher who - lets say was say "in charge of the year book" or the "Sophomore class sponsor and they spent even half the time outside of school with the students that Football coaches do? They would win teacher of the year every year. Its sad but I've always said most go into Administration for 1 of 3 reasons 1) The are tired and/or not very good in the classroom 2) They want Admin level money 3) Both 1 and 2

I mean Notre Dame only had 2 players drafted and like 4 or 5 UFA. Kelly and Freeman on hot seats too??? And Purdue benefitted greatly from a 5* DL from their own backyard and a generational type receiver in Bell.

Added this in another thread, but for the NLCers Andrew Mevis (K): Undrafted Free Agent: Jacksonville Jaguars via Iowa State and Fordham and Warsaw Community High School Mevis finished his only season in Ames (as a graduate transfer from Fordham) 20-of-23 on field goals, including 2-for-2 on kicks of 50+ yards, and was perfect on PATs. Mevis was arguably the best kicker in the entire draft, and will presumably have a shot at taking the starting job since the Jaguars released longtime kicker Josh Lambo midway through the 2021 season. His younger brother Harrison is the kicker at Missouri and will likely be a front-runner for the Groza award this season.

Just change a few words here and there, and you’ve described the officials shortage in a nutshell. Makes me wonder if there isn’t a common cause in there somewhere.

Looking at the brackets 6A: Pretty much as I expected. Two schools had to go north, and HSE/Fishers being paired with the two Fort Wayne schools made a lot of sense because of their proximity to I-69. 5A: Again, a pretty easy map. The big question was which pairs would go with which in the south. IHSAA opted to put THS/THN with Whiteland/Franklin and BHSN/BHSS with East/Seymour. I'd have flipped the Johnson County & Bloomington schools and created an I-65 sectional and a SR 46 one, but the IHSAA was clearly looking at latitude instead of longitude. 4A: The big question was, who was going to go into Sectional 23, which was going to be a spread-out mess no matter who got sent there. The big question was which schools would go into 23 and which into 22 among EC, Connersville, Shelbyville, Beech Grove and Greenwood. Again, the IHSAA went with latitude - East Central to Edgewood to Silver Creek to Greenwood is going to be a doozy but there was really no way around it. A bit of a surprise to see Logansport go north and Huntington North go south. Sectional 20 is largely centered around SR 26 but Frankfort to Jay County or Frankfort to Huntington will be a bit of a haul. Frankfort was likely going to go into that field because there was no place else where it would fit. 3A: A few surprises that make a lot of geographic sense - West Lafayette in Sectional 25, Chatard in Sectional 28 (which was clearly created as a US 31 sectional) and thus in the north. It's a good map as you see the fourth northern sectionals are all centered around major highways (25 - I-65, 26-Toll Road, 27-I-69, 28-US 31), but somewhat surprised Delta/Yorktown go up to Fort Wayne instead of Oak Hill/Tippecanoe Valley. In the south, West Vigo & Owen Valley being sent to Evansville while Southridge/Heritage Hills get sent to southeastern Indiana is a bit interesting. What I might have done is leave Southridge/HH in southwestern Indiana, put WV/OV in with Monrovia and Crawfordsville and move Purdue Poly/Speedway into Sectional 31 (likely bumping SD/Lawrenceburg to 32). But you can see the mapmakers really considered travel and major highway corridors - Lawrenceburg/SD with schools along I-74, WV/OV moved south because they are on US 41/SR 67, Southridge/HH are close to I-64 and thus it's fairly easy to access the Louisville area. 2A: Really makes a lot of sense when you look at the map. The sectionals are about as compact as they can be and the dividing lines are sensible. 1A: As compact and sensible as 2A is, 1A is one of the weirdest maps the IHSAA has ever put out. Park Tudor and Gary Bowman could play in the same regional? Sectionals 41 & 42 aren't geographically contiguous. The sectional fields themselves largely make sense, although I would've flipped Sheridan and Park Tudor to make those two sectional fields more geographically contiguous. The change I would've made is the regional round - Sectionals 41 & 43 should be together, 44 and 45 should be paired together, as well as 42 with 46. Here are the maps, with each sectional color-coded (the northwest regional in reds, the northeast regional in oranges, the central regional in blue/green and the south regional in black/gray): https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1O6J1oaoKWSgPWgPhsL7-eng1-_vqyqEr&usp=sharing

Warren Central got the very short end of the stick here. I don't see the Warriors winning state until 2024

Outside of the random renumbering of Sectionals 30, 31, and 32, I don't see any real surprises down south. Two years and we get to do all this fun again!