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Nah, it's a relatively short 2.5 hour drive. Jump on 37 South, take I-69 South from Bloomington. Easy peasy. Several teams have made a longer Friday night trip over the years... Some tips for the Mooresville fans who are making the trip down for the game... First and foremost (and very important), Enlow Field is on the campus of Bosse HS, not Memorial HS. Bosse's campus sits at the corner of Highway 41 and Washington Avenue. Also, Enlow Field is not the same as Bosse Field. If you are using Google maps or Siri, use "Bosse HS", not "Bosse Field". If the directions take you anywhere but the area near the intersection of Highway 41 and Washington Avenue, you have something wrong. Bosse HS sits in a residential area, so there isn't a whole lot of parking at Enlow. There is a parking lot west of the stadium, which is accessed from Washington Avenue. That lot is on the home side, so you'll have to walk around the outside of the stadium to get to the visitor entrance on the east side (not a big deal). There is also a lot east of Bosse HS, which is also most easily accessed from Washington Avenue and Lodge Avenue. You can also park in the residential neighborhoods north of Bosse HS. The east lot will start filling up with Memorial tailgaters by 4pm or so. There will also be a lot of gatherings at houses along College Highway, which runs into Enlow from the north side. As a result, close parking will be tough to come by unless you get there early or use the west lot. For dining, every chain restaurant known to man is squeezed into the 1 mile strip on the far east side area of Evansville between I-69 and Burkart Road along Highway 62 (that we refer to as Lloyd Expressway). After you eat, take the Lloyd W to Highway 41 S and the stadium is just a few stoplights away on your left. Turn left onto Washington Avenue and you have arrived. Enlow has plenty of visitor seating. It's a unique old stadium - one of a kind in Indiana. Or better yet, skip the chains and come tailgate with us Memorial folks. We like to have a good time and we'll have plenty of food. Safe travels. Be alert for deer on I-69. Love is in the air so they are on the move...

You truly have a gift. Nicely stated.

74 74 you know nothing bout the Clown. He's not one man, he's the whole damn town!!

YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS! Old school GID is back! The absolute worst thing about the success factor has been what it has done to this website. It is so &%%$ing boring now. Back in the old days, there would be 5 - 10 threads going on at the same time over the Public-P/P issue. We would reach 10, 12 pages before a moderator shut it down. When was the last time a moderator shut down a thread? It doesn't happen nearly enough. HERE WE GO: Well said, Cow Bell. Stupid. But well said. [Now you insult me, a few other Publics will jump in, then, I'll insult you and a few other P/P's will jump in. This is going to be so much fun! Yes! It is back, baby!]

Haha wait, 1906 is a grown adult posting like that? This is even more comical. 😂.

If Cow Bell actually tries to read this, I’m pretty sure his head will explode. 🤯

Hell yes! I’ve always said there are advantages. Just not the ones generally cited. Many of the advantages are the same as you would have found 30-40 years ago in small town schools. Changing times have, to a degree, left us with the P/Ps as analogues of those small towns. Multi-generational kids (good athletes go to college, return “home” and the next generation starts all over), involved parents who keep an eye and their kids...and yours, community and generational pride, respect for coaches, etc. Part of the reason I respect places like HH and GS is because they fit that very model....but even then it’s hard because so many kids once they leave home just don’t come back. In my case, I never went back because there wasn’t much work for gigolos in Franklin County.

I'm transferring to Carmel. They have sushi.

I was thinking more along the lines of AWESOME! This just became AWESOME.

Providence needs to up their recruiting budget. Losing to a Public in sectional is just simply not allowed. The plan to have an all-Catholic 2A Regional has been the plan since August. I think we need to convene the council of P/P's and vote them out for bringing such shame.

A word of advice to Mooresville. For the love of God and all that is holy, don’t, DON’T drive down to Enlow and play on a Friday!

A Catholic school favored to win a state championship...surprise surprise..what recruiting can get you...you should be so proud

I remember coaching when there were no playoffs. Been going to playoff games since the start of our playoff system. Greensburg last week. Probably Harrison this week. It's cold but worth it. It's Indiana High School Football. I love it!!! Don't care who the teams are just love it. Good luck to Cass and LCC this week.

It's impossible for the players to hear your cheers when you're lounging in your lazy-boy.🤨 I've seen every game this year and I've been watching Cathedral football since 1953. So you can see I'm quite old. A bit of cold would never stop me from being there.

Here a post I made about 4 or 5 years ago. "I must say there have been a lot of intelligent statements made in this thread and for the most part I am impressed by the civility of the discussion. Although the old public-p/p discussions (pre-Success Factor), were much more entertaining. The difficulty in this debate is that the inherent advantages of private schools simply cannot easily be separated from the earned advantages of certain private schools. Everyone recognizes that there are certain inherent advantages but everyone also recognizes that there are earned advantages that certain schools (many, but not all, private) have attained. Contrary to many views expressed on the forum, there aren’t one or two or even a few specific variables that one can point to which lead to long term, significant football success. The fact is that the variables involved are so numerous and so complex that it is nearly impossible to identify all of them or to determine how much each lend to the success of the program. In addition, some variables may lend more to the success of certain programs and other variables may lend more to the success of others. Also, some variables are inherent in a community and others are developed over time. The attribute which has the most direct correlation with football success is enrollment size. The size of the school has a stronger correlation with having a better football team than any other variable. If you use Sagarin rankings as the measure of quality, larger schools, on average, are consistently ranked higher than smaller schools. As we all know, although size matters, it isn’t necessarily the determining factor. In fact, there are numerous variables which seem to have a correlation to football success but are not absolute determining factors. How about simply being a private school? On the other hand, there are many private schools that are not very good at football at all. What about being located in a densely populated area? Once again, lots of schools located in densely populated areas aren’t very good. The opposite is also true. There are some very good rural programs. Being Catholic versus other religious schools versus completely secular private high schools? Same thing. Some Catholic schools are good, some are not, some non-Catholic private schools are good, some are not. There also seems to be consensus that average household income has some effect on success. I don’t know if there are any studies on this but I question the significance of this variable. My suspicion is that at some income levels the difference isn’t very significant. For instance, the difference in the success effect between enrollment populations with very low average incomes as compared to slightly above average incomes is probably much greater than the difference between enrollment populations with average incomes versus above average incomes. In fact, there is probably a point at which increasing income levels decreases football success as very high income households may dissuade their children from football participation. Of course all of this begs the question as to why certain schools have achieved a level of dominance over the others? I have read some posts which insist that the Catholic schools (or more correctly, the Catholic schools which are dominant) have better players than their private school counterparts. For the sake of argument, let’s assume that that is true (at least at game time). In fact, let’s assume that this is true of all schools which have experienced significant football success regardless of whether they are public or private. Why is it that the athletes on the field would be better at one school of similar size than another? The obvious answers are 1) a higher percentage of the population desires to play, 2) they start playing earlier, 3) they receive good instruction from a young age, and 4) the players develop a team oriented identity from an early age. When you get down to it, football (all sports really) is a math game. The more students a school has to choose from, the more quality athletes will be in the pool. Why does the German national soccer team beat the US national team every time they play? The German national team has better players than the US national team. Why? The German national team has the 25 best athletes in the country on the team. They started playing at a very young age. They received good instruction from an early age, they developed a team oriented identity when they were very young, and they devoted themselves to soccer success. The US national team doesn’t have the country’s best athletes on the team. There are some very good athletes on the team; some that may be the top athletes in the country. But not all of the best athletes in the US play soccer, nor do they get the same level of instruction as German youth players, etc. So the first, and probably most important variable, is that every one of the good athletes in the community must have a strong desire to play football from an early age and to devote themselves to the success of their team. Understand that this variable isn’t inherent in a Catholic school, a public school, a city school, a country school, a rich school, or a poor school. This is a variable that is a by-product of the identity of the community. Certain communities value football participation (and by extension, success) more than others. The Indianapolis Catholic community (of course, there are others but this is the one of which I am most familiar) has taken great pride in their football success for generations. Football was a sport that lent itself to the blue collar, mostly immigrant, and less sophisticated Catholic communities in the early part of the 20th century. At the time, football was a poor man’s sport. It was tough and violent and there were a lot of serious injuries. The type of activity that poor, uneducated immigrant kids and young adults would not be dissuaded from. It just so happened that there were a lot of poor Catholic kids in Indianapolis at that time and a great many of them starting playing football. That developed into football success and a certain pride what went with it. In a community that had no other way to favorably compare themselves to the majority, athletic success, especially in football, became part of its identity. The resulting pride in that success was passed down from generation to generation. It became part of the culture of Catholic school education. Now, this history isn’t unique to the Catholic community. There are other communities throughout the state, which are not necessarily Catholic, which have developed a “football culture.” The fact, though, is that it takes generations (not years or even decades but generations) to develop the type of football culture that leads to dominance at the high school level. But it is this “football culture” that most strongly drives the success of the community’s football programs. The result is that when teams like Bishop Chatard, Roncalli, Cathedral, Andrean, LCC, etc. take the field, the 50 or 60 best athletes in the school are on the football team. Not only that, but they have been preparing to play for the high school team for years before they even get there. Most of the kids have played together for eight to ten years by the time they are seniors. From the time they are in the 3rd grade, the value of football success starts to be positively reinforced by the entire community. What position do you play? Did you win this weekend? Congratulations on your city championship. Subtle interactions like this with the adults in the community constantly reinforce the importance of football success. (This isn’t to say that other things are not reinforced; academics, charity work, appropriate behavior, and participation in the church and school are all reinforced as well. But when it comes to athletics, football is important in the Catholic community. It’s just the way it is.) That isn’t true for all schools where other sports such as basketball, soccer, baseball, etc. may draw athletes away from football. That also isn’t true of schools where the community isn’t athletics focused or in communities where the students are expected to work at home or have other responsibilities. The football culture is the single largest advantage that any school can have (excluding enrollment). But there isn’t one variable that one can point to which defines it. Some of the variables are inherent and some are earned. But it is impossible to separate the variables that give one community a strong football culture and others not. Now, in my opinion, the most important manifestation of this culture is a very strong youth program. The most direct relationship for success is the quality of the youth program in the community. One can look at non-Catholic schools who are similar in size and circumstances to see the difference in success based on the quality of youth programs. There is a reason that Indpls. North Central is consistently inferior to Warren Central. Warren’s youth program is very good. North Central’s is not. I would bet that there are very few successful programs who do not have a well developed youth program. Another aspect of football, in general, that is very difficult to explain but is probably inherent in football success is that, for some reason, football lends itself to dominance by small groups. Look at past champions of NCAA Div II, Div III, NAIA, and even Division I to a lesser extent. A small group of schools, usually around 10% – 20% win a significant majority of the championships. This aspect of football seems to be inherent in the sport. What we will inevitably find is that the variables which lead to football success are many, varied, and non-linear. Ultimately, the “system” which creates the success is extraordinarily complicated; much too complicated to accurately model. Nassim Taleb, in his work, The Black Swan, spends considerable effort discussing the attempts by people (mostly economists) to model systems which are extremely complicated and are ultimately based on human behavior. The one thing all of the models have in common is that they inevitably fail (see e.g.: financial crisis 2008). I believe that Mr. Taleb would probably say that this system is simply too complex to attempt to model. I can certainly see why the IHSAA would want to avoid the difficult discussions involved in attempting to parse out which variables should be used, and to what extent, to determine class realignment. So, what we are left with is the success factor system. All of the difficult variables (the causes) are eliminated and it is only the end result, regardless of how it is achieved, that is used to realign the classes. Is it an honor or a punishment? The beauty of that is in the eye of the beholder. I think that the Success Factor with a few tweaks can resolve most of the issues. For instance, I’d like to see 4 year cycles instead of 2 and fewer points needed to stay in a higher class. But, this is a system that will work much better and more fairly than multipliers, automatic bumps, or a separate tournament. Finally, it is important to remember that we are dealing with very small sample sizes. The current class system has only been in place for just over 30 years. There were periods of time where public schools had much more success than they are having now. Over the next 30 years, some programs will improve over that time and some will decline. The cultures of communities change over time, populations shift, incomes are redistributed, and priorities change. In a generation, there could be a completely different discussion which dominates this forum, such as why the participation in football has diminished to the point where football is nearly irrelevant. I fear that that is our greater enemy. As we argue with one another over the thing we enjoy so much, it is disintegrating around us."

P74....The EIAC owns this GID lingo. Though imitation is a form of flattery....you can't out clown the STC Crew! Stick to your own style, man. The Dirtyburg will be ready and hospitable for you Spencer Co folks....but come Saturday game time the hospitality ends and Tigre shows the Patsy's what Stinktown is saying. EIAC forever.....Santa's Candy Castle, Lincoln Logs and Florence Henderson never!

Words you should take to heart. “It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to talk and remove all doubt.” - Mark Twain

But look at the hat Lysander wears!

Suggest you get that “tailgate” invite. Once there, be sure to hold your pinkie finger out after you fill up at the champagne fountain. Talk about your home on Geist a lot........and your vacation place on Sanibel. Gotta bring up Sanibel.... You’ll fit right in (these tips work at HSE gatherings also). Feel free to PM me for any other social tips.

This is a decision made weekly by the HC and OC. We got behind in the scoring against WL by missing an extra point early. Chased the points and got back on track and resumed kicking. Against Pioneer, the decision was based on their ability to score 2 every attempt. Against LaVille, It was determined that they would not be able to stop us from 3 yards out. Andrean???? Better figure out how to score first.

$400/hour for consulting. Gotta pay that tuition.

Stinky, Stink, Stink 1.2.3 Not sure about Jungle Nation, but this ones from ME All this talk about Cutler Cuties and the Southern Hillbillies Your smack can't be serious, it's just plain silly The boys from down here, you bet they'll come to play Drink up your BL's, damn man I'll even pay Keep pumpin' your team, that's fair enough I like the Patriots in this one, they're mean and they're tough

If you love your playbook from 3 yards out, why not??

2a : Lewis Cass heads to Father Eckert Field to pay a visit to Andrean 4a: Russ Radke led New Prairie heads to another slobberknocker with a matchup with Hobart 6a: Not a stranger to NWI, Bart Curtis will bring his Tigers of Warsaw to Broadway, to see Merrillville Pirates. Roughly 8 square Miles will separate all 3 of these games.

RCHS in 2014 Beat LCC week 8 for Conference title Beat P/P week 1 Sectional Beat Charter week 2 Sectional Beat LCC Semi State Beat Mater Dei State Not one time did we discuss anything to our team other than ways to beat them on the field.

New Pal is pretty close to Wanamaker -- the home of the New Bethel Ordinary. Best pizza around.

Which has produced 2 state championships and a runner up in the last 6 years.

Thanks for your insight and I agree with you, I expect this game to live up to the hype 100%.

Yeah..... that Dick Meador Tiger Team we played was the hardest hitting team we played..... period..... and that says alot..... 3 spinal fusions now.. and counting... can testify to that sched...... didnt help that we a team of flyweights...... lol

Southridge beat 3 private schools (Mater Dei, Providence, and Scecina) on their way to a State Championship two years ago. A southern Indiana team winning a state championship and beating 3 private schools. It can be done....

You leave our beautiful oceans out of this You keep this up and you'll be the most replied too poster on this forum.

😂🤣😅😆 I have to believe his language and/or spelling skills would be better if he had a P/P education.

I’ll predict 10% coverage of the stands for WC, and 25% for CG.

Just a normal day on the Grid for EIAC!!!

Stinky, Stink, Stink 1.2.3. Football is what the Clown talks about & Connies The Patriots & Stink Town are a combined 23-1 So you know this is going to be a good one. Stink & the Crew took a look at Johnny Harrell's site and two wins over GS & Southridge make you drink Tiger Bud Lights! (Tiger BL's)

Seems like this post didn't age very well. Plymouth's pass offense was shut down.

So if open enrollment only works for city schools, then your beef is less with Catholic schools and more with non-rural schools? I mean, you started out with being [not] surprised that a Catholic school was competing for a state championship the weekend after a Catholic school beat the defending 3A champion who is a public school ... albeit a city school. Matter of fact, that public school had just beat a Catholic school the weekend before. It had also beaten four Catholic schools in a row during the tourney last season to win the 3A title. Must have been an act of God ... or perhaps the Devil given that they are the Red Devils?

If we are going to wade into the P/P-Public school debate I will chime in... I was the AD at little ole Vincennes Rivet located in Knox County. I can tell you most P/P schools do not openly recruit student-athletes, but they do recruit students. The recruitment of a student-athlete is a violation of IHSAA bylaws and in such instances the student-athlete is deemed ineligible. If all P/P schools recruited, then why aren't they successful in every sport? Where V. Rivet for example is competitive in most girls sports and boys soccer. Boys basketball, baseball, track, tennis and golf are all pretty low in numbers and unfortunately success. Open enrollment does not only help big city schools, it also helps some rural schools. This depends on where you are located in the state of course. I know students who cross county lines to go to a different public school, not the norm but it does happen. Since I now work in one of these small rural public schools, I see it firsthand. I know at least one of our students (a 7th grader) who is getting recruited to go to a different school for purely athletic reasons. One of this kid's coaches has said he makes trips to watch him play in travel tournaments so he stays in our school because other schools are recruiting him. The idea of vouchers is a whole different can of worms to talk about another day. I hope everyone has a fantastic day!

I have a lot tied up in vehicles. (the picture that keeps on giving......)

Dang @tango I got off cheap!

The Colts might want to think about taking the Lewis Cass approach after a score

We only started going for two against Pioneer. I think possibly because we knew they would go for two every time. I know with going for one you have to complete a pass backwards between your legs and then you have to put it on the tee and then your kicker has to kick it. Sometimes it can seem easier to line up under center and run the ball.

I don't think my kind is allowed!

Congrats to Lawrenceburg on their Sectional Championship! Looking forward to following them through the rest of the play-offs. Congrats to Coach Meiners on a very successful first year...I'm sure all of Trojan nation shares your disappointment from the loss but personally speaking, very optimistic about next year! The EIAC should be a much tougher conference next season....Lawrenceburg, Franklin Co, Greensburg and Batesville have many returning starters. Hopefully South Dearborn gets back on track and Connersville and Rushville figure out how to be more competitive. Good luck to Lawrenceburg! and for now....I am a Tigers Fan.

Every other year in HS football, I would be on the field in Greyhound green and white to receive a Tiger butt-kicking. Even so, it’s a special place. Dick Meador was prowling the sidelines then rather than being the namesake. Two great traditions playing at a classic venue.this weekend. Saturday, huh? I may have to ask my better half permission to attend. She used to be on the sidelines back in those days, as well, in her green and white Greyhound cheerleader uniform. Back in the Jurassic era.

Thinking about traveling to see this dogfight on Friday! Mostly to see the game, but i also am really curious if Stink actually dresses as a clown for their games....

@dmizers3 I step away from the thread a little bit and you feed the trolls. lol Well we tried to have some good game dialog! It is very unsurprising. I would feed him no more. Best of luck to the Trojans.

Tonight was a little extra special for Warsaw (6A), Knox (3A) and Eastside (2A) as all three schools won their first ever football Sectional Championships. Congratulations to all three of these programs and best of luck going after their first ever Regional Championships next Friday night.