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very nice, but let's get on the field in a college game first, lol

Let's be honest here.. There are only 3 maybe 4 people on this entire 6 page thread who actually know the kid and have ever talked to/coached him. Those that have, know that he and his family were going to make a decision that they thought was best for him both athletically and academically. Also, those that know him know that he will work his tail off to earn a spot (in whatever capacity they need him) and get a degree.

Last off-season myself and a few others on this board (and my gf) went sectional by sectional throughout the state and found who has turf/doesn't. I might have maybe a few wrong, but this list is pretty accurate. If you know of a school that is getting turf for 2020 or is voting on it soon, or has it in the works for 2021 please let me know. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Crown Point Chesterton Carroll Carmel Avon BD LC Center Grove 32 Total Lake Central Penn Homestead Westfield Brownsburg Tech WC CN 31 Turf Merrillville Portage Noblesville HSE Pike Perry Meridian LN CE 1 Not Turf Laf Jeff Valpo Warsaw Fishers Zionsville Southport North Central Franklin Cent 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 LaPorte Concord FW BD Anderson Decatur Cent Franklin Bloom South BNL 34 Michigan City Elk Central FW Snider Laf Harrison Plainfield New Pal Bloom North FC 24 Mishawaka Elk Memorial FW Northrop Kokomo TH North Seymour Castle NA 8 Munster Goshen FW NS McCutheon TH South Whiteland Ev North Jeff (2020) 2 No home field SB Adams Cathedral 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 East Chicago Culver Angola Delta Connersville Beech Grove East Central Boonville 62 Gary WS Kankakee Valley Columbia City FW SS Greenfield Central Frankfort Greenwood Jasper 34 Griffith Logansport DeKalb FW Wayne Mt. Vernon Fortville JC Eville Central 26 Hammond Gavit New Prairie East Noble Huntington North Muncie Central Attucks Madison Eville Memorial 1 Haven't heard from Hammond Morton Plymouth Leo Jay County New Castle Shortridge SC Eville Reitz 1 Highland SB Clay Northridge Marion Pendleton Heights Lebanon Mooresville Eville Harrison Hobart SB Riley NorthWood Mississinewa Richmond Roncalli Martinsville Northview Lowell SB St Joe Wawasee New Haven Shelbyville Western SD 25 26 27 28 Hammond Lakeland FW Concordia Guerin 64 Hammond Clarke John Glenn Belmont Brebeuf 18 Hanover Central West Noble Oak Hill Crawfordsville 42 River Forest Mis Marion Peru Chatard Knox Garrett Northwestern North Montgomery 4 Calumet SB Wash Maconquah West Laf Benton Central Jimtown Norwell Hamilton Heights Twin Lakes Tipp Valley Heritage Yorktown 29 30 31 32 West Vigo Washington Brownstown Ev Bosse Ritter Princeton Scottsburg Gibson So Greencastle Sullivan Charlestown (2020) Mt. Vernon Danville Pike Central Lawrenceburg Heritage Hills Tri West Vinncennes Franklin Co Salem Manual Owen Valley Batesville Cordyon Indpls Wash Brown Co Greensburg North Harrison Indian Creek Edgewood Rushville Southridge 33 34 35 36 Andrean Bremen Bluffton Alexandria 64 Boone Grove Delphi Central Noble Blackford 12 Bowman LaVille Eastside Eastbrook 47 Hammon Bishop Noll Lewis Cass Fairfield Eastern (Greentown) 2 North Newton Manchester Luers Elwood 3 Ren Central Pioneer Whitko Frankton Wheeler Rochester Woodlan Lapel Whiting Wabash Prairie Heights Tipton 37 38 39 40 Cascade Centerville Clarksville Forest Park Monrovia Eastern Hancock Pekin North Posey North Putnam Heritage Christian Providence Eville Mater Dei Seegar Howe Paoli Crawford Co South Vermillion Scecina Mitchell Linton Southmont Northeastern Switzerland Co North Knox Speedway Shenandoah Triton Central Tell City Western Boone Winchester Union Co South Spencer 41 42 43 44 64 Culver Community Carroll (Flora) Madison-Grant Adams Central 64 Gary Roosevelt Clinton Central Monroe Central Caston 5 Lake Station Edison Clinton Prairie South Adams Fremont 57 North Judson Frontier Southern Wells North Miami 2 West Central LCC Taylor Northfield 1 Winamac North White Tri-Central Southwood South Newton Traders Point Academy Union City Triton South Central (Union Mills) Tri-County Wes Del Churubusco 45 46 47 48 Attica Anderon Prep Cambridge City Eastern Greene Cloverdale Covenant Christian Hagerstown North Central (Farmersburg) Covington Edinburgh Knighstown North Daviess Fountain Central School of Deaf Milan Perry Central North Vermillion Lutheran North Decatur West Washington Parke Heritage Park Tudor South Decatur Rock Creek Riverton Parke Sheridan Tri Springs Valley South Putnam Tindley Oldenburg Tecumseh

High Life, Blue Ribbon, Strohs, Sterling

Meanwhile, take a player like a Josiah Sears - who I've also watched from high school through college and beyond. Recruited as a fullback, doesn't have a lot of offers, takes a PWO at IU, starts as a senior, scores a TD in a bowl game for IU's best team in a decade, meets his wife, has a beautiful family, has spent years as a successful coach in D3 and now at IMG Academy. Would he have been "better off" at Central Michigan or Miami? I'm not sure, but things really worked out for him. Too many people want to treat athletes and football programs as pieces on a chess board they can move for the benefit of their entertainment (or their need to be "right" on their hot takes), but these all people and communities with unique needs, unique perspectives and unique desires. I firmly believe Charlie will work hard, find a spot and be successful at IU. He may not have the "measurables," but he's one of the most driven, hard-working football players I've ever seen, and he's very difficult to tackle in the open field. I'm excited for all of the NP seniors headed off to college and seeing them perform at the next level.

School enrollments for the 2019-20 school year have been posted by the DOE. This year is NOT a “count year” for realignment, but these numbers may give some indication of enrollment trends and possible movement for the next alignment cycle. This year (19-20) is the first of a 2 year cycle, with the next realignment beginning with the 21-22 school year. Next year’s enrollment numbers (20-21) will be used to set the next realignment, not the numbers listed below. I included only schools that play football. A couple notes to make: Elkhart Central and Memorial will consolidate next year. If you look at the consolidations in Anderson, Muncie, and Parke County in the last decade, the consolidated schools have retained between 89%-93% of the combined enrollment of the 2 consolidating schools the year prior to merging. Using the middle of that range, 91% of the combined enrollment of Central and Memorial would put them around 2880 students. I think there will be some growth at Jimtown, Elkhart Christian (no FB) and possibly Northridge next year when the Elkhart schools merge. There are 4 IHSAA member schools (2 that have football) that do not share enrollment data with the DOE - Culver Academies, Park Tudor, University, and FW Canterbury. I left their enrollments as they were for last year. That isn’t accurate, but it “holds their spot” in the enrollment data. I included Dugger Union even though they are not tournament eligible to see where they would align when they become tournament eligible. I did include Hammond Noll, but did not include Wood Memorial or Trinity Lutheran. 1 Carmel 5400 2 Ben Davis 4554 3 North Central (Indpls.) 3747 4 Warren Central 3677 5 Fishers 3632 6 Hamilton Southeastern 3380 7 Pike 3364 8 Penn 3323 9 Lake Central 3256 10 Avon 3097 11 Noblesville 3026 12 Franklin Central 2936 13 Crown Point 2849 14 Brownsburg 2801 15 Lawrence North 2626 16 Center Grove 2604 17 Homestead 2480 18 Carroll (F.W.) 2442 19 Westfield 2419 20 Perry Meridian 2380 21 Portage 2372 22 Southport 2293 23 Lawrence Central 2290 24 Indianapolis Arsenal Tech 2129 25 Zionsville 2089 26 F.W. Northrop 2087 27 Merrillville 2070 28 Lafayette Jefferson 2059 29 Chesterton 2057 30 Warsaw 2051 31 Columbus North 2047 32 Jeffersonville 2033 33 Valparaiso 1985 34 Harrison (W.L.) 1974 35 Goshen 1946 36 Whiteland 1930 37 Castle 1892 38 S.B. Adams 1892 39 LaPorte 1828 40 Decatur Central 1822 41 New Albany 1821 42 F.W. Snider 1813 43 Floyd Central 1806 44 McCutcheon 1780 45 Anderson 1763 46 Plainfield 1727 47 Bloomington South 1696 48 Terre Haute North 1694 49 Evansville North 1651 50 Terre Haute South 1643 51 Elkhart Central 1631 52 Concord 1619 53 Bloomington North 1575 54 Franklin 1572 55 Kokomo 1564 56 F.W. North Side 1557 57 Michigan City 1547 58 Seymour 1542 59 Elkhart Memorial 1534 60 Munster 1505 61 Columbus East 1497 62 Bedford-North Lawrence 1476 63 Mishawaka 1473 64 Huntington North 1461 65 Greenfield-Central 1427 66 Martinsville 1400 67 F.W. South Side 1391 68 Northridge 1385 69 F.W. Wayne 1383 70 Pendleton Heights 1356 71 Mooresville 1338 72 Mt Vernon (Fortville) 1333 73 Muncie Central 1300 74 Hobart 1273 75 East Central 1257 76 Evansville Reitz 1249 77 Logansport 1235 78 Hammond Morton 1232 79 Jennings County 1218 80 Greenwood 1214 81 Richmond 1208 82 Indianapolis Attucks 1195 83 Shelbyville 1170 84 New Palestine 1162 85 Evansville Harrison 1131 86 East Noble 1124 87 Roncalli 1121 88 Lowell 1115 89 Indianapolis Shortridge 1110 90 DeKalb 1109 91 Columbia City 1094 92 Jasper 1085 93 Highland 1077 94 Gary West Side 1070 95 Marion 1060 96 S.B. Riley 1055 97 East Chicago Central 1054 98 Kankakee Valley 1053 99 Indianapolis Cathedral 1049 100 Plymouth 1044 101 Evansville Central 1041 102 Connersville 1019 103 F.W. Bishop Dwenger 1014 104 New Prairie 989 105 New Haven 975 106 Lebanon 975 107 Northview 975 108 Leo 965 109 Jay County 934 110 New Castle 929 111 Boonville 924 112 S.B. Clay 924 113 Wawasee 920 114 Northwood 919 115 Beech Grove 908 116 Frankfort 886 117 Hammond Gavit 877 118 Indianapolis Washington 870 119 Silver Creek 857 120 Madison 852 121 S.B. Saint Joseph 850 122 Angola 849 123 Culver Academies* 845 124 Norwell 835 125 Delta 827 126 Western 812 127 Hammond 796 128 Yorktown 780 129 Brebeuf 779 130 Hammond Clark 769 131 Danville 768 132 Mississinewa 767 133 Edgewood 765 134 Evansville Bosse 759 135 South Dearborn 758 136 Hamilton Heights 749 137 Twin Lakes 745 138 Corydon Central 740 139 West Lafayette 738 140 Griffith 734 141 S.B. Washington 731 142 Franklin County 730 143 Guerin Catholic 723 144 Hanover Central 722 145 Vincennes Lincoln 722 146 Washington 721 147 Owen Valley 713 148 F.W. Concordia 709 149 Greensburg 708 150 Indianapolis Bishop Chatard 704 151 Gibson Southern 703 152 Charlestown 702 153 Batesville 693 154 Crawfordsville 692 155 Rushville 691 156 Lawrenceburg 683 157 West Noble 679 158 Bellmont 674 159 North Harrison 666 160 Mishawaka Marian 647 161 Calumet 646 162 Glenn 639 163 Indianapolis Manual 633 164 Jimtown 629 165 Maconaquah 628 166 Peru 624 167 Northwestern 610 168 Princeton 604 169 Heritage 603 170 Mt Vernon (Posey) 601 171 Garrett 598 172 Indian Creek 593 173 Knox 591 174 Evansville Memorial 584 175 Heritage Hills 580 176 Brown County 576 177 Benton Central 576 178 Tri-West 568 179 West Vigo 567 180 Lakeland 566 181 Pike Central 551 182 Tippecanoe Valley 550 183 Indianapolis Ritter 548 184 South Vermillion 547 185 North Montgomery 544 186 Monrovia 538 187 Speedway 537 188 Salem 536 189 Western Boone 536 190 Brownstown Central 534 191 River Forest 531 192 Woodlan 525 193 Oak Hill 520 194 Sullivan 518 195 Eastern (Greentown) 516 196 Rensselaer Central 515 197 F.W. Bishop Luers 511 198 Fairfield 508 199 Greencastle 506 200 Blackford 504 201 Centerville 502 202 Rochester 501 203 Boone Grove 499 204 Frankton 499 205 Bremen 497 206 Southridge 494 207 Alexandria 493 208 Whiting 493 209 Triton Central 492 210 Wheeler 490 211 Southmont 489 212 Evansville Mater Dei 488 213 Manchester 485 214 Eastbrook 475 215 Tipton 471 216 Lapel 466 217 Bluffton 463 218 Mitchell 456 219 Wabash 454 220 Crawford County 451 221 Cascade 451 222 Delphi 449 223 Heritage Christian 448 224 Cass 443 225 Hammond Bishop Noll 438 226 North Posey 436 227 North Putnam 429 228 Paoli 428 229 Shenandoah 427 230 Central Noble 425 231 Eastern (Pekin) 424 232 Winchester 423 233 Clarksville 422 234 Prairie Heights 422 235 Eastside 421 236 Whitko 417 237 Tell City 415 238 Elwood 410 239 Indianapolis Howe 410 240 Union County 409 241 Indianapolis Scecina 408 242 Eastern Hancock 401 243 Linton-Stockton 401 244 Switzerland County 399 245 South Spencer 396 246 Andrean 395 247 Forest Park 394 248 Northeastern 393 249 LaVille 390 250 Lake Station 389 251 North Knox 389 252 South Putnam 389 253 Seeger 370 254 Bowman Academy 368 255 Covenant Christian (Indpls.) 368 256 Providence 364 257 North Newton 363 258 Taylor 362 259 Winamac 358 260 Churubusco 357 261 Madison-Grant 355 262 Adams Central 353 263 Clinton Prairie 347 264 South Adams 346 265 Perry Central 346 266 Cloverdale 346 267 North Decatur 345 268 Park Tudor* 343 269 Milan 342 270 Knightstown 340 271 Hagerstown 333 272 Monroe Central 332 273 Eastern Greene 328 274 Parke Heritage 327 275 North Judson 323 276 Carroll (Flora) 318 277 South Decatur 317 278 Sheridan 317 279 Fountain Central 307 280 North Daviess 307 281 South Central (Union Mills) 301 282 Tecumseh 300 283 Fremont 299 284 Cambridge City Lincoln 291 285 Riverton Parke 291 286 North Miami 290 287 Gary Roosevelt 287 288 Lafayette Central Catholic 285 289 West Washington 284 290 Springs Valley 283 291 Covington 279 292 Pioneer 278 293 North Central (Farmersburg) 274 294 Clinton Central 272 295 North White 269 296 Northfield 262 297 Southwood 262 298 Wes-Del 262 299 Union City 257 300 Southern Wells 256 301 North Vermillion 254 302 South Newton 253 303 Tri 249 304 Triton 249 305 Culver 245 306 West Central 235 307 Tri Central 234 308 Oldenburg Academy 228 309 Indianapolis Lutheran 226 310 Edinburgh 224 311 Caston 223 312 Tri-County 209 313 Indianapolis Tindley 208 314 Frontier 198 315 Attica 182 316 Dugger Union 166 317 Traders Point Christian 136 318 Rock Creek Academy 135 319 Indiana Deaf 116

And boy are their arms tired.... da-dum-chishhh.....

Watched Hook play his last 3 games online and he was the best player I’ve seen all year in Indiana. Absolute freak, his motor didn’t compare to anyone else’s that I saw. He will be playing on Sundays! He should be Mr.Football.

I know a story that was told to me very recently of a 6a coach that is very well respected recently stated that Maxen Hook would be playing in the NFL.

In my opinion, Hook could play in the Big 10 if given the chance.

Charlie is a good "get" for IU. Believe me, he will find the field quickly and maybe gain scholarship after first/second year. Probably get redshirt, but you never know. Guys with that type of drive and background usually succeed.

Maybe a kid's family doesn't make a lot of money, and the Ivy League is a really good option. Or maybe money isn't a concern, so they have an opportunity to try to walk on at a place you want to go and think you can play. Or again, money isn't a concern and you wanna pay sticker price for an Ivy League education. Or maybe being close to home is important. There is a lot more that factors into these decisions than stars or rankings. Ever think of any of those?

What absolutely jumps out (and blows me away) from those numbers is that the 4A Champ only has 48 more students than the 2A Champ. Amazing. Honestly, just can’t give Memorial enough credit.

Recruiting and decisions for young players out of high school is not a one-size-fits-all proposition quit trying to make it that way

Highly ranked D1 QBs who were nationally recruited vs a throwback FB playing in a spread heavy era of football Apple meet Oranges

The most DT thing ever to put himself on the GID Mt. Rushmore.🤣

I doubt that its the HC flat out saying this to players, but in the instance of Purdue. If you are those 2 who entered the portal, you see Rondale, You See David Bell, Milton Wright, Amad Anderson are all Freshman or Sophomores, you are not getting reps, your position coach has you in a pecking order, you have 2 choices, stay and compete, however you see that Purdue is bringing in another 4 star WR Dog, another elite speed slot guy, another 6'2 WR Sullivan and you ask yourself, will I have get to play here or is there better opportunities for me to play. That is what is going on. Same with these elite schools, Bama, Clemson, OSU, etc. You see 4 and 5 star guys leaving all the time because they are not getting reps, and the next batch of OMG 5 star dudes are coming and so they feel they need to get a new situation to get on the field and get that tape to for their ultimate goal, Sundays.

Hes the one that started voting me down 😅😅😅

I would have thought that those conversations would of happened after the spring practices before the new recruits are officially on the team.

Probably is more about scholarship caps and recruiting season about to get really busy for one last push for the class of 2020

IO has been known to live the High Life!

My bad. Scottsburg is at 771, which puts them at #130 between Brebeuf and Hammond Clark. I can’t edit my original post, but I can repost the full list sometime. My 2nd paragraph in the original post talks about that where it says “A couple notes to make: Elkhart...”

I think that they are both brewed by craft companies, but not completely sure. Sterling was absolutely brewed in Evansville! Who new something so great could come from river water!

Would not surprise me at all. I've said since last year he was clearly our best player. Plays with great instincts and never seems to be out of position. And the bigger the game, the bigger impact he seems to have.

I've fallen down on that stuff before. Man. Memories

Mickey’s Big Mouth? I think that was Evansville too.

He'll have to drink Heileman's Old Style if he's at my house.

Hamms if @Impartial_Observer is in the house....

Edit I need to make: Yorktown to grass, Attucks to grass, Tri West to turf, Chatard to turf. Thank you all for replying. @Lysander not to be rude at all.. but there is a legend on the side of chart. Green= turf, Red= grass, blue= no home field, yellow= not reported.

I get it from MC's side. But this is not a good add for HH. They are a 3A football program. If they beat MC, great. They are supposed to. If they lose, it is not a good deal for them.

I realize it was frozen Iranian assets, but like they still owed us for the party they threw at our embassy.

I'm not going to lie, for the 3-4 weeks or so, I'll have either Andy Griffith, South Park, or The Office reruns on the TV while I'm fixing supper, cleaning up after, doing laundry, whatever needs to be done around the house, when I finally sit down, it's either Netflix or Prime. I've watched several movies, reruns of Longmire, season 2 of Jack Ryan, the final season of Man in the High Castle, etc. Far more entertaining, and to be honest, I've watched a couple of really bad movies. The impeachment thing is pretty predictable.

I have mixed emotions on the whole thing because I enjoyed Holt's passion. However, I often found myself frustrated by what you are saying seemed to be Coach Brohm's issues. Far too often, they gave up big plays by alignment. It seemed like such a simple thing to fix, but it rarely was.

Wings, brats, gumbo, chili.

I know the 8th grade is down on #'s so that should keep them down for next cycle count

I would love to see Purdue field a FAST aggressive defense based on getting turnovers and giving the offense as many chances as possible to score, similar to what the Colts had in the 2000s with Manning and Co on offense. Freeney and Mathis were absolute turnover causing machines back then. I think that with more aggressive play calling Big George will put up BIG sack numbers in the future.

When Brohm took over, Purdue's fanbase had low expectations and was expecting 6-6 and a bowl bid in year 3 or 4. Brohm and Co took a bunch of transfers and achieved "play 13" in years 1 and 2. Due to that early success, coupled with Brohm's reputation as an offensive genius, he became a hot target for other programs as a candidate. This left AD Bobinski in a tough spot. Should he risk letting Brohm go or show that he backs the football program, unlike previous AD and well known cheapskate Morgan Burke, and pony up a big contract? Brohm got paid. Unfortunately, this led a lot of casual fans, the ones who dont closely follow recruiting and etc, to think that Purdue was going to have a big 8-10 win season and follow a trajectory from 6-6. Even with all of the injuries last season, a total that actually led the entire nation, Brohm was probably looking at another 6-6 type of season. Most of the depth on this team was composed of true and redshirt freshman, due to years of poor recruiting left behind by the Hazell regime. That depth was then forced to start, exposing a bunch of freshman. This also gave a lot of the freshmen valuable playing time. Honestly, next year looks like it's going to be another 6-6 type of season barring this team resembling a MASH unit once again. I'm okay with that, though, after dealing with the Danny Hope years of 6-6 mediocrity, followed by Hazell winning less than a dozen games in 4 years. There is upside, as Rondale Moore and DT Lorenzo Neal Jr. will return from injury and the offensive line should show improvement. This gives Purdue's starting QB, whomever that is, two 1000 yard receivers to target, plus the defense returns their best player. I look forward to 2021 as the year that Purdue takes a giant step, as Purdue currently has only 19 upperclassmen on the entire roster. This includes 11 seniors and 8 juniors.

They’ve had far more D1 and lower level college talent the past 5 or so years than Buzea ever had. Bigger kids too. Portage has always had a Hispanic population. Not sure that’s an issue. That population pumped out some darn good football players over the years.

Who cares where you practice as long as its close to the school! Give me the Strength and Conditioning coach......think about the amount of time and stress that takes of an HC. Give me a weight room that's functional and can accommodate large numbers of kids so you don't need to live at school all summer to run multiple sessions. Give me enough paid coaching positions to fill out a staff properly Give me a school system that is committed to hiring teachers that coach Give me a coaches office that has room to move, is functionally set up to run a meeting, etc. Give me a community that understands what has to be asked of student athletes in order for a meaningful experience and success to have a chance to occur. The school that has more of these things is the more attractive job. People think its all about the how new and shiny things are....... Practicality, Functionality, Sustainability is where its at. Remember, Its not the climb to the top that wears you down, its the rock in your shoe!

Auburn played 5 of the top 13. Oregon, Florida, LSU, Georgia, Alabama

There should be a separate Mt. Rushmore for each class.

Coach Holt has been relieved of his duties of Defensive Cordinators Around the Purdue water cooler, lots of issues with landing recruits and Coach Brohm and him disconnect on how he wants his defense ran, Coach Brohm wants more aggressive style all over the field, but that was the case a many key moments this year, ESPECIALLY on 3rd down.

Interestingly enough, in 2018 Indiana only had three 4 star football players. Also three in 2017. 2016 had four. Seems like 2019 was the outlier. LOL you posted the list THREE HOURS AGO. They have not updated it since. You posted an old list. Just admit it.

I just finished season two of Jack Ryan, I believe Venezuela's situation has been fixed.

Agreed. Ball State or ISU would have been better choices if young Mr. Spegal wanted to stay in-state and have a more immediate impact on the playing field.

Why start now?

Pound for pound Mount Rushmore................ Snider, New Pal, Center Grove, and Columbus East.

He is currently on the Panthers IR but Lewis Cass Grad Kitt O'Brien.