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You know when you're dead, you don't really care, but the dead usually leave behind loved ones, family, friends who loved them, cared for them, or at the very least will miss them. Celebrating anyone's death is at the very least in poor taste, and speaks more to your morals, than to those who've passed. I realize you clowns think you're being virtuous, but you're really just shining a light on your own character.

None, none whatsoever...regardless whether I might personally disagree with his not wearing a mask. Some folks here simply have a sickness inside and celebrate the death of those they disagree with, that sickness has nothing to do with a virus. But truly sick, nonetheless. I’d never wish or celebrate death on most anyone...it’s beyond my kin. Pray I never hope to be as depraved to celebrate the death of a good man.

In this time of turmoil.... May I say that it's been a refreshing experience to see and learn from those from ALL around the state about their approach to officiating . I am totally convinced that those who are entrusted with education of the rules/mechanics/etc. of HS football in Indiana have developed an "uniform" approach to the presentation of the information needed to provide to our schools and players

Please stop comparing the virus to the flu because it is not a valid comparison This stuff can be spread very quickly and people are not following the guidelines If the season does not happen or if no fans are allowed each person can look at themself and ask if I did my part to stop the spread.

No one is saying they can't play. We need to have some accountability. Our kids need to learn about doing what is best for all. Go to school, WEAR A MASK/KEEP SOCIAL DISTANCE, go to practice, WEAR A MASK (when you can)/KEEP SOCIAL DISTANCE (when you can), go home after practice. Repeat! If our kids, teachers, and coaches did that we will be able to play! Just because the number of fans is being limited shouldn't be a problem, if this is about the kids. Follow the rules and we can have football.

This young man was my next door neighbor when I lived in Missouri. Awesome kid and an awesome family. They can use all of your prayers!! Please let’s take this virus seriously and try to watch and protect our young men, who play the sport we all love!

My oldest son possibly getting back into playing football after a two-year hiatus just coaching football and playing soccer. He said tonight, since he didn't make the high school soccer squad, that the soccer coach suggested that he check out football and he was interested in maybe getting back in to playing.

I couldn’t imagine starting a football season in Indiana in February... We would have a hard time practicing since we wouldn’t get support to plow the field at Pioneer!

They have only had a passing acquaintance with football since Russ Radtke left there about 35 years ago.

God what I would do for a good old fashion end zone camera thread!

Justify it however you like Haas! I feel bad for you.

Errr, dunno,.....the faculty at Butler University back in the day thought I was marginally proficient in History. Not having listened to a Brit talking about American history, my only observation was that he thought that the idea of the current crazies tearing down Lincoln and Jefferson statues was more than ridiculous....literally a straw man position. ....and yet it’s happening.

And it took exactly 5 posts this time for the 1st POLITICALIZATION of the thread. Good job. New Record set

Breaking News Day 1 of Football. And the 2 pre practice Wagon Masters I just destroyed were in MID SEASON FORM

Connersville has over 1,100 students. Enough to have some pretty athletic kids. The whole county is primarily a bunch of factory workers and farmers. Some tough rugged kids in the upper Whitewater Valley. There really isn't any reason Connersville is not the equal of East Central or Franklin County..

Calling someone a d bag on here is a pretty classless thing to do.

Amen Brother. This guy does nothing but post bad news without solutions. And does so with the speed of someone who could only be happy to hear the news.

You are Cheering for the cancellation of football again.

Good for you and good for your boy! Best of luck to him in his return to football! as always, the game is better from_the_sidelines007

Is it your intention to start a new topic for each program that gets shut down? Has positive tests? Or just temporarily suspends sports? Because there are over 300 schools in the State. And there may be a day where we see a significant number do one of those things. I am sure most people here would prefer to not see the first page full. There is a topic open where these could have been added. How about just posting there?

This means whiting clark one of the longest running rivalries in the state is officially done, for gods sake Ihsaa flip the season to spring already.

Move fall sports to the spring? What about the spring sports? Now we are saying that kids that play football and run track or play baseball or golf have to pick a sport. I didn't hear anyone offering the spring sports a chance to play. Now those 2020 graduates have moved on. What is in the best interest of not just kids, but everyone? The answer is what no one wants to hear. as always, the game is better from_the_sidelines007

Yeah, but that new scoreboard will look good...……..

I kind of knew that. Benton Central is a rival school of mine who suffers a similar fate.

Im not that arrogant.

As you were.

Not this year 🙂

Admittedly, I was not that optimistic of a full season. You may choose to think of me as a Donnie Downer/Gloomy Gipper, but I think more of myself as a concerned father, citizen, and not to mention one hell of a model American. But the fact that two MLB teams have had not just one or two players, but rather nearly the whole team come down with the thing, leads me to believe we probably shouldn’t press forward. I don’t see it as locking the kids up, but rather giving them hopes for a better future.

The I told you this would happen people anytime a teacher, player, or coach catches covid. All of these teams and coaches must be doing a hell of a good job. Look at the marlins and how careless they were. Yet have you read anything about a indiana football team remotely coming close to what happened to marlins? NOPE. WHY??? Because the coaches, training staffs, and kids are doing great job and should be congratulated for it.

The protocols are to identify who had contact without a mask and closer than 6 feet ....I believe it is for 15 minutes. I have lots of experience with this stuff and although it is VERY contagious...it takes quite a bit more than being outside on the same football field with other people to contract it. It would be totally irresponsible to shut this entire team down and most county health departments in that state would NOT recommend that.

If you are really interested in the current thinking on the science behind the virus, why comparisons to influenza are dumb, why masking is necessary, the difficulty in creating a vaccine, etc., this is the best article I’ve come across. It’s long, but very, very informative and understandable. https://www.ucsf.edu/magazine/covid-body

He's wrong a lot... Not a shock.

All in fun. Good luck to your Cats and stay healthy.

Good luck on that lol. Signed, Adams County resident in very low impact area.

I hope he can play especially if he is a D-1 player and can get some film out for maybe a better offer. But even if he is on the roster he still needs to get IHSAA approval for the transfer before he can play.

No, I would not.

Speaks to the times we are in at the moment. You're right on all accounts. Truly muffed up.

Tayven Jackson picked up an offer from Cincinnati

I've seen a lot of terrible history on this board, and it comes from terrible history teachers. I've always swore that my students would know real history.

I'm sure as there are AC fans who live and die for football season as I'm sure it is the same with SA & a few Bellmont fans. Like I said earlier, it's a losing situation all around unless everything goes right. Choose option A of packed crowds and then we really do get an outbreak, was it worth it? Choose option B like we have now, and there is an outcry and really reduces the atmosphere and what the game is about for the community and still doesn't guarantee an outbreak won't occur. Guess there could be an option C like how the Adams County 4-H fair was handled this year where it was mostly just family of all 4-H members. That too could end up failing with an outbreak, or it could go as well as possible like the fair seems to have. I'm hoping maybe more compromise can be made to go the option C route and everything goes right. At some point don't we just have to test the waters of trying to get back to normal while still being as careful as possible? Then expanding or reverting based on the outcome.

https://fee.org/articles/transferism-not-socialism-is-the-drug-americans-are-hooked-on/?fbclid=IwAR3QL1ABkuF9oFmq-Rv_fij2j-TsqeOCaSd18TJwE1PFIX4s2pGlgZHF63c Transferism, Not Socialism, Is the Drug Americans Are Hooked On The very usage of the terms “capitalism” and “socialism” has evolved past the point of clear meaning. Friday, December 6, 2019 Photo by frankie cordoba on Unsplash Antony Davies James R. Harrigan Ec The United States has never had a meaningful socialist tradition or even a semi-serious socialist party. Socialism in the United States is a fringe movement at best and always has been. This makes the sudden acceptability of socialism all the more surprising. But with one avowed socialist, Bernie Sanders, campaigning for the presidency for a second time, and another, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, rising to national prominence from her post in the House of Representatives, American socialism is more mainstream now than at any point in our history. Socialism Is a Response to Capitalism Complicating matters, socialism exists entirely as a response to capitalism, as has been the case from the time Marx first put pen to paper. And as if that weren’t enough, the very usage of the terms “capitalism” and “socialism” has evolved past the point of clear meaning. These terms were once very clearly defined. Socialism is state control of the means of production. The intent is that these means are to be used for the public good. By contrast, capitalism is simply private ownership of the means of production. The intent is that these means are to be used to advance the interests of those who own them, which will in turn create conditions of general prosperity that can be enjoyed by all. When polled, Americans express relatively well-defined views on both. And while nowhere near a majority of the American electorate favors a completely socialist system, a recent Gallup poll indicates that more than four in ten Americans think “some form of socialism” is a good thing. But what is “some form of socialism?” A society is either socialist or it isn’t. The state either owns the means of production or it doesn’t. There is no middle ground. Even our openly socialist politicians rarely advocate anything near as drastic as government control of the means of production. It appears that what Americans really have in mind when they think about socialism is not an economic system but particular economic outcomes. And their thoughts seem to focus most often on the question of what people should have. The answer they arrive at most often? More than people typically get in a system based on the pursuit of profit. Capitalism, they believe, is immoral because it is a system in which some do without while others have more than they could hope to use in multiple lifetimes. Transferism Is a More Accurate Term These four in ten Americans, and the politicians who speak for them most vocally, are not advocating socialism at all; they are advocating what we should really call “transferism.” Transferism is a system in which one group of people forces a second group to pay for things that the people believe they, or some third group, should have. Transferism isn’t about controlling the means of production. It is about the forced redistribution of what’s produced. Federal transfers are money the federal government gives directly to people or to state and local governments. These are not purchases. To be a transfer, the money must be given in exchange for nothing. The earned income tax credit, income assistance, and payments from various welfare programs are transfers. So, too, are Social Security benefits. While workers tend to regard Social Security benefits as returns on their Social Security taxes, legally, Social Security taxes are simply part of the government’s tax revenues. Workers are not entitled to Social Security benefits. Who says so? The Supreme Court in Flemming v. Nestor (1960). In reality, Social Security benefits are simply transfers—gifts—from the federal government to retirees. Federal transfers to persons have risen from 11 percent of federal spending in 1953 to 53 percent today. As with persons, the federal government also sends transfers to state and local governments. Federal transfers to persons and state and local governments have risen from 17 percent of federal spending in 1953 to 69 percent today. As of today, almost 70 percent of what the federal government does involves simply taking money from one group of people and giving it to another. Less than one-third of the money Washington spends is spent in the name of actual governance. At least at the federal level, our government has fully embraced transferism. And both parties are responsible. Among the four presidents under whom transfers were greatest, two were Democrats (Obama and Clinton) and two Republicans (G.W. Bush and Trump). Transfer payments increase steadily over time. Partisan differences are a matter of rhetoric and public perception, not a reflection of any underlying reality. Federal transfers as a fraction of total federal spending. Contrary to type, politicians speak in very clear terms about the benefits they would like to finance by transferring money from one group to another, and they have had predictable success with it. Most Americans cannot imagine a country without Social Security, Medicare, and the Earned Income Tax Credit. And politicians never seem to run out of new ideas regarding what they might be able to achieve with even more transfers of wealth. New ideas are typically well-defined, at least on the benefit side. Student loan forgiveness, universal basic income, Medicare for All, and every other piece of proposed redistributive legislation offers an obvious benefit for an equally obvious group of people. The lack of clarity comes when the politicians get around to explaining who will pay for all of it. Their answer is inevitably some form of “the rich,” who will finally, we are told, pay “their fair share.” None of this is ever defined, which explains the United States’ present $23 trillion debt. Transfers are tricky political business because politicians need to point to who benefits and by how much while at the same time hiding who will actually be paying. Cronyism vs. Capitalism And just as transferism is not actually socialism, the system against which transferists rail isn’t capitalism, either. When they think of “capitalism,” transferists imagine a monied class that defrauds customers, pollutes the environment, and maintains monopoly power, all because the monied class is in bed with government. But capitalism is simply the private ownership of the means of production. What people are actually describing is something more appropriately called “cronyism,” which can manifest in a socialist system as easily as in a capitalist one. Cronyism isn’t a byproduct of the economic system at all; it is a byproduct of politics. For current examples, one need look no further than North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela. Socialists say these aren’t examples of “real socialism,” and they’re not. There was a time when these countries were indeed socialist, just as there was a time when the United States was capitalist. But cronyism has overtaken these countries’ economic systems, just as it did in humanity’s grandest socialist experiment: the Soviet Union. Life was simply different for inner-party members than it was for workers. This is the real danger that all countries face, regardless of the animating principles of their economic and political structures. And this is where the dangers of transferism should become manifestly clear, because transferism is simply another form of cronyism. In the United States’ current iteration, the cronies are not a monied elite who buy off powerful politicians for their own benefit (although that still happens, too). They are voters who reward the politicians who promise them a growing list of benefits year after year. The obvious question that never gets asked, almost entirely because of our increasingly confused understanding of the words socialism and capitalism, is how much transferism we actually want. The intellectual shorthand that socialism and capitalism allow turns out to be broadly inapplicable to our present circumstances, but our insistence on the categories virtually guarantees that we will get nowhere with the present discourse. How Much Transferism Do We Want? We need to answer the core question: how much transferism do we want? In order to figure this out, we need to come to terms with the fact that any transfer is a confiscation of wealth from the people who created it. That confiscation will decrease wealth creation in the long term by decreasing an important incentive to take the risks necessary for creating wealth. Second, we have to recognize that transferism is addictive. No matter how much we transfer, people will always want more. The United States’ $23 trillion debt, the largest debt the world has ever seen, has come about because of American voters’ voracious appetite for transfers combined with politicians’ obvious incentive to provide them. The solution politicians have found is to pass off the cost of the transfers to taxpayers who haven’t yet been born by borrowing the money, thereby leaving to the next generation the problem of repaying the debt or enduring unending interest payments. It’s a house of cards to be sure, but from their perspective, it will be someone else’s house of cards. In the end, we have polluted our political discourse with two words that no longer have much meaning: socialism and capitalism. In the process, we don’t call the animating principle of modern American politics what it actually is: transferism. The only winners have been the politicians who manage to gather votes by keeping the electorate in a near-constant state of friction. And they keep winning if people keep thinking in categories that ceased to have any real meaning years ago. Part of the new Normal?

It's a no win situation all around anymore. You ignore it all and have full capacity crowds that could lead to a deadly outbreak just to watch sports. Then you have the safe version like this were people miss out on part of what makes the game great. Usually it is better to be safe than sorry, but it's odd that the people affected by the decision aren't as heavily affected by the virus compared to other groups. Just have to make the best of the situation no matter what your viewpoint is. Just wish we could find some middle ground to try and make improvements in the entire global situation. Then we can see what really is the best way to proceed.

Man, Nick Hart doesn’t mess around. I love that about him. Win or lose, competition like that will do wonders for the Titans in the tournament.

Nicholas Sandman is already a multi millionaire before the age of 18. CNN and The Washington Post have already paid millions due to their fake news. This is further proof that the the mainstream media is fake news and the enemy of the American people.

Thank goodness my kids go to school in a district that doesn't panic over "cases". The protocols are effective. Our 7,000 employee Toyota plant proves that every day. Districts that "punt" at the first sign of a few "Cases" are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It is absolutely mind boggling to me that there are actual living breathing human beings that think at the first sign of any positives in the building you need to shut the whole operation down. Just completely insane, there is no other word for it....insane.

I know you don't....and that is unfortunate.

Yeah; not a fan of laughing at someone that suffered from this and passed away. His stance on the masks aside, I think it is sad that people can find humor in it.

Kicking the can down the road could be kicking it onto a landmine. There is no reason to believe things will be any "better" in the spring particularly if rudimentary case counts are the metric.

Well there you go. Have Warren travel to Gibson Southern. It’ll be a culture shock for all involved. Problem solved.